Not signing Kevin Durant would be a complete failure for the Knicks - Max Kellerman | First Take

Tampering ...

Shut up, Molly.

Molly stfu,, u just saying shit ppl said before..

Lmao Kp Being Compared To The Dream & Dirk LMAOOOOOO

KP defensive monster?!!!! LMAO OMG

That was a good Comparison Max “They one the lottery then used the money to by more tickets” Perfect of all your similes that’s my Favorite😂👌🏾

Kyrie and Jimmy B is fine and good because they can draft Zion possibly . But they never should traded Porzingis🤷🏽‍♂️🤷🏽‍♂️

Kp didn't love new york matter fact he most likely never got over being booed out the building on draft night. Knowing liberal new york they probably saw a white guy get drafted and assumed it was his privilege or whatever nutty conspiracy theories are being pushed by the crazy communist perfessor on campus that week lmao

The girls on this show always try to jump in but they only know like a part of it and look dumb.

With Knicks luck and Front office they're going to sign Jimmy Buckets and Kemba to max deals LMAOOOOOOOO

Kellerman is a cock sucker #Knickstape

The Knicks are so bad that even Max Kellerman can be right about something. Good to know :D

Just stay with your team damn. I hate the Warriors but if everyone already thinks you're a snake you might as well have 10 rings to go with it

Durant Kyrie Zion !!!

i like max way better then skip and he was a str8 savage here

True... if knicks doesnt sign knicks this summer, i cant imagine how bad their trade is just to fail this free agency..

Max you keep looking at the mistakes they made in the past that led to porzingis wanting to leave; so in the CURRENT situation they made the best move the could. Obviously what they did up to that point was idiotic; we’re talking about what they had to do NOW to remedy a bad situation!

So the Knicks are dumb for making this move. Sure. They traded away a 7”3 talented crybaby who wasn’t patient enough to let the young talent around him develop, who’s never played a full season since he got into the league. And all they got was a 2nd year player that’s a solid pg, the most cap space in the league, and TWO first round draft picks. Yup. Completely dumb. I hope they draft Zion and he yams it on him. This isn’t like Anthony Davis’s situation where he’s given 7 years to the pelicans and they couldn’t put a solid team around him, this is a guy who can’t stay on the floor, and is too impatient to be “the man” of any team, let alone the one team that any star player would immediately gain immortal status to the public if they simply contend again. Dallas will see the best in him but only because he’ll be playing second fiddle to Luka.

Max is 100% right. You can’t ignore what happened if you’re talking about the position the Knicks are in now

#DoneWithDolan #DoneWithDolan

Max kellerman is the only guy who thinks a 7'3 guy with injury issues is a good investment smh this guy is delusional

Max is tripping! Porzingas is going to be a Shawn Bradley at best. Another soft ass European stick. I guarantee the unicorn will be hurt almost every season.

This guy MAX is STOOPID. Who would want to play for that DUMB DUMB owner ?? Honestly. Nets far more appealing

KD isn't going. GSW is a dynasty team. There not my team but they got it for 4 more titles

Yooo max on his Stephen a smith vibes

These 2 make a good duo

what about Zion??

Max is right. Im so over this Knicks bullshit. You've had more than enough time to build a team that can compete for a title. We didn't wait 20 years for you to build a 2nd round team. Show me a title chance or GET OUT MY FACE

You can tell the Knicks have severely damaged Max as a human. This is authentic PTSD from the poor guy

Max is slowly transforming into Steven A Smith

Molly STFU damn

KD only goes to championship teams tho...

Wait a minute wasn't Max going around not so long ago claiming that KD is NOT A TOP 5 PLAYER??

And as a knicks fan..... KD should come through chip or not. Knicks gon hand KD the Keys ! FOREVER ! Win a chip in NY and you a Legend up there with Jordan damn near ! And the rest will follow all the all stars and rookies, whatever everybody know Golden State is for the Golden Boys Curry & Klay lol

Bro ! Talk Facts !
Max going OFF .
Why these new guys trynna play a OG like Max smh lol
Will & Molly gotta convince us better I’m starting to feel a sense of antics coming along .
Complete failure if knicks don’t get KD and we ain’t have to trade Porzingis.
Porzingis , KD , ( Kyrie, Jimmy Butler, or Kemba) andddddddd maybe ZION ! Come on.

Max hits the nail on the head. Dolan is worst owner in franchise history. I would like to add ... Fizdale is worst coach in Knicks history as well.

Ima say it
Kp is a overrated injury prone player

Max annoying

Why tf does Max keep saying Kristaps is an elite defender? So not true.

Molly is so annoying

molly. shut the FUCK up please for the love of jesus

Only Steve A. knows how to calm him down... lol

If he goes there then he will be fishing in cancun early.... knicks is a weak ass team....

Damn the knicks are desperate

Max sound like a women scorn lol

Max get off Dolan D... You pathetic

molly is so annoying

Molly needs to clam up!!

Max a New York native that changed to a Laker fan everything he says is cap

Y’all some haters kd and Kyrie next year to the Knicks, just watch!! Knicks for life

Max was trippin loooolllllllll

Kyrie and jimmy would been nice enough for a franchise whose botched it for a while

Im in a crazy box😂😂😂💀💀

knicks havent been relevant since the 90s. the media needs to realize this and stop hyping them up as a top FA destination city. not a single superstar wants to play with the knicks.

As a Warriors fan, i'm going to say this. Is it a possibility KD leaves at the end of the season? Sure. Is it likely it is to the Knicks? Absolutely not. Look....the Knicks right now and the last several years are basically The Warriors of most of my life. They are an inept organazation with a terrible owner, haven't drafted well, had burdened themselves with bad contracts. They have nothing to offer outside of money and the fact that it's "new york". literally, nothing. They have a top 5 draft pick? They have been terrible at drafting for a decade and you can probably argue they lucked into KP despite themselves. Remember, The Warriors biggest Free Agent they signed of the last 20 years before KD they signed was Igoudala. Even at that time, he wasn't a top 10 player in the league in anyone's eyes. It took the Warriors getting new owners, a new coach, drafting well and promisingly multiple years in a row, Steph proving he was healthy, them getting to the playoffs and winning a series against a team better than them before even Igoudala was willing to go sign there. Then it took them winning a championship, winning 73 games and losing in game 7 to get their first big time free agent signing pretty much ever in KD. That isn't even addressing all the conflicts of KD going to new york. The fact that he hasn't ever really expressed any interest in wanting or needing his own team and to be the guy from the ground up, he doesn't handle media pressure particularly well so going to a garbage team in a city with the most relentless and critical sports media in the country isn't really something he would be clamoring to go to.

Max is right

I like max, but he’s just a salty knicks fan. Porzingis has potential but he has health concerns. To compare him to Hakeem at the end of his career as max did is almost laughable. Porzingis can defend the rim, yes. But out on the perimeter he’s slow and has poor stamina. At least let him play 70 games in back to back years with good production before you start acting like the knicks sold away an all time great lol.

Get ready for failure.

Knicks are not getting shit

MAX PULLED A STEPHEN A. SMITH AND SPOKE FACTS LMAO

Where is Stephen A.???? im worried

Molly: trust the process. Max’s entire point was how they botched the process.

That’s the best possible analogy for the situation 😂niggas hit the jackpot and spent it on lotto tickets

Max know my boi curry need 3 mo rings right?kd aint goin no wea yall buggin frfr😕😴

James Dolan must have smashed Max lady, because he is going too hard at Dolan.. smh

I think if they get one of kd or kyrie then they still failed. Because they could have had kp to match up with the other. Also Knicks could have waited to trade him this off-season to Dallas.

Kd needs the warriors the warriors need kd

Max is right. You should run your franchise so a player like Porzingas doesn't want to leave. The Knicks have been run so poorly for so long.

max is 100% right. I dont get why people dont understand. They traded their best player in 20 years for CAP SPACE. yea cap space is good. nice of you to notice. you DONT trade your best player for it! its unreal. some knick fans even say if they dont sign a free agent this offseason just keep the rebuild going. what??? so keep sinking as a franchise trade away your best player and hope to sign someone in a few years?? you mean when cap space would of cleared anyways?? what plan is that?? a smart franchise would of KP AND cap space. In 2 years the mavs bad contracts will be gone and they will have KP and donic for the next 14 years! This team sucks. the trade had some good elements to it. but ultimately what it is is trading your best player for lottery tickets. and fans continue to support it. If the knicks dont land KD and an all start now im done w the knicks. I cant give them any more leeway.

Max is so much smarter than everyone on First Take.

Is it just me or has Molly been doin’ her homework? They let her talk a little bit and she actually sounded like she knew what she was talking about.

Up next on "two dumb white guys and a girl talk basketball"

I used to think that Max was annoying... but man he seems like a pretty likeable guy compared to this thottie Will Cain

He isn’t basically Yao Ming’s height dude what the fuvk are u talking about Yao Ming 7’6 no shoes Kristaps 7’3 is a stretch

Y’all forget porzingis was about to be out. He was gonna sign a 1 year deal and bounce

Max just said it has to be a top 5 player but didn’t he say kd wasn’t top 5? 🤔

Someone needs to tell that woman to shut up and do her job

KD and Zion are gonna dominate on the Knicks next year

max a clown

Max the hack,why are you screaming ?!

I see the molly hate but she’s needed here

Why does Molly talk? Seriously he's debating Will not Will and her dumb ass. Please jalen get her pregnant so she can go away

james dolan is not as bad as mike ashley... ashley out nowwww!!!!!!

As a Knicks fan and would love to see KD come NY, why would he? They can offer him a max deal seems like the only actual draw. Other teams can too who are in better positions. Now the KP thing. I didn't like it, I think he has a great style that is fun to watch (kind of why I like KD so much, lanky with a good move set), but he requested the trade. What should they have done? Hold onto him and just let him walk? Glass half full me says they got rid of some big contracts which would have been hard to get rid of otherwise so that's good. He is also showing signs of being injury prone. He has yet to play a full season and has played less games each year he's been in the league. Who knows what the future will bring for him, but I hope he gets and stays healthy and has a great career.

Max did not get enough praise for that mega millions take. That was brilliant!

molly is the reason why I watch undisputed. She's probably the reason why Skip went there too

The knicks are already a complete failure

I'm on max! Smh why Knicks just why! 🧕🤯🤯

Will got it and was arguing a separate point. Molly didn’t get it😂

Max is talking to the 2 dumbest ppl on this earth

The Knicks are getting no one. Not Kyrie, not KD, no one

Just to be clear here, Molly is supposed to be a moderator right? Someone remind her of that because her input is horrible.

Max did a great Stephen impression.

KD will not sign with the Knicks. He needs a bandwagon to jump on. He's proven that.

"They were morons! We got it!" loool Will

You telling the truth max

Nobody wants to play for the KNICKS 😂😂😂😂 simple all that new York knick PRIDE is cool but there organization is terrible only thing the Knicks can offer is MADISON SQUARE GARDEN that's it and the city that never sleeps that it lol

Max has been watching too many rap battle videos: "The most failed owner" STFU dude this is hyperbole at its worst.
I know drawing on the past and tossing out some physical specifications of a player you like passes for intelligent sports talk but lets deep dive into the landscape:
1.) Three of the top tier FA already have RINGS. While 6 rings sounds nice, Kyrie, Kawhai, Klay, and KD all have, rings, multiple in some cases. So brand building, exposure from a marketing standpoint and transitioning into other business ventures might make sense in the tri state area for some on this list. Well two. But if that doesn't happen...
2.) The coffers will be full(er) The Knicks draft capital moving forward:
2019: Top-5 overall pick + 2nd rd via ORL, CLE or HOU
2020: NYK 1st + CHA 2nd
2021: NYK 1st + DAL 1st (unprotected) + CHA 2nd
2022: NYK 1st + NYK 2nd
2023: NYK 1st + DAL 1st (protected 1-10) + NYK 2nd
Look at Bostons or the Sixers position a few years ago, and hauls are similar. The Knicks are in excellent position moving forward. If they suck for three years? Wonderful. Knox/Roberson/Trier/DSJ/Zion(2019)/top 5 pick(2020)/top ten pick + possible top one to fifteen pick(2021) the Knicks will have a ton of tradable or developmental lottery talent. This hasn't happened since I've followed the team.
3.) They aren't done! I know some fans don't care about high draft picks, but fortunately most other GMs do-they are regarded as valuable to rebuilding teams and for good reason-there is real analytical evidence as to why collecting draft capital-or even former lottery picks that have been up and down production wise-is the way forward. Again Sixers/Boston/Brooklyn are recent examples of this.
4.) Availability is the best ability. KP has missed 110 of 296 possible games in four seasons thanks to a long list of injuries. Since 2015, he has suffered the following:
Torn left ACL
Sore left Achilles
Sore left knee
Sprained left ankle
Sore left groin
Strained left quad
Bruised left thigh
Sore right hip
Sprained right ankle
Sore right foot
Inflammation to the bone and tendon of his right knee
Lower-back tightness
Right-shoulder strain
An unspecified right-elbow issue
Plus, Porzingis has missed games for an upper-respiratory infection and bouts of stomach flu. The Knicks jump started its rebuild and multiple shots (2019,2020,2021) at giving out two max spots or trading for a max player, all the while collecting young players in the draft. So if now of those 2 Mavs first round picks becomes an heathy all star, this trade is a resounding win for the Knicks. Oh I know KP is going to make them a WCF contender and the pick a mid 20s one right? Well see above. Oh and he's also 7'3'.
Or you can give him the supermax, give his brother input into personnel selection and hope he doesn't miss games, and hope to sell FA on your theoretical superstar. Notice how a lot of players stayed silent about this trade except Lebrons social media guard dog Joel E. Word gets around.
Knicks strike out this year? OK. Then they can keep taking swings at the draft batting circle with 7 first round picks over 5 years. It's already netted the team Knox, Roberson, and Tier. Three of the next 5 years of FA classes has a superstar player in it.If they hit with a #1 in any of those years, you can package that, another one of your picks, and a young player or two and trade for a superstar and retain his supermax rights in some cases. So with the salary cap, draft picks, and young assets as a team moving forward, the Knicks are truly in a modern position from a basket ball roster strategy perspective. I know its easier to simply stick to 'they suck' theme and cut and paste it, but this is how you rebuild in todays NBA.
Max you really sound uninformed about todays NBA.

Kellerman is a talking head ,KP wanted out of NY ,Don't blame him for that ,But this idiot to blame the owner for knick losses is wrong

KD is always on the Mavericks in mycareer, just saying 🤷🏽‍♂️