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Magical First Black Hole Discovered for the 4th time on April 10, 2019

  • Published on Apr 12, 2019
  • None of this is my work. The author approved of me quoting his words, however I’ve decided to leave his name out. If he sees this and wants credit via his name, I’ll gladly add it. You can YELL AT ME IN ALL CAPS if you want… better yet, let’s talk about Herbig-Haro objects, Plasmoids, & Birkeland Currents. What about the fact they are now using the word “Toroid” in their description of black holes? They used to not...
    I promised to include links presented in this narration:
    “Bending of Light Near a Star and Gravitational Red/Blue Shift: Alternative Explanation Based on Refraction of Light.” arxiv.org/ftp/physics/papers/...
    From the author ~ “I am not confident this will survive peer review. Here are the papers over the last 11 years claiming M87 Sagittarius A* is a Black Hole 26,000 light-years from Earth - as well as the plurality of peer-reviewed papers declaring "We have a black hole!" “
    2008 - iopscience.iop.org/artic…/10.1...
    2008 - iopscience.iop.org/article/10...
    2009 - iopscience.iop.org/…/10.10…/00...
    2011 - astroengine.com/…/m87s-obese-...
    2011 - digital.lib.washington.edu/re...
    2013 - derstandard.at/…/Supermassere...
    2015 - repositories.lib.utexas.edu/h...
    2016 - academic.oup.com/…/article-ab...
    2017 - dailygalaxy.com/…/the-x-games...
    2018 - phys.org/news/2018-10-black-h... - EHT teaching us how they intend to formulate the images of M87 Sagittarius A* as a Black Hole - with no evidence it is a Black Hole.
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Comments • 91

  • Electric Universe Eyes
    Electric Universe Eyes  3 years ago +14

    HI DEBUNKERS... I know you are here because I invited you from all the mainstream media outlets sharing the "Blackhole Discovery" across every outlet they can - doing what they are supposed to do - lead you astray from reality. ~EUE
    From the author (NOT Electric Universe Eyes) ~ "The blue-ish picture was unknown to most folks who were on the “Black Hole” team...when I published it, and my assertions bolster many peer claims of “B.S.”, they got emotional. They did not expect anyone knew there was a 5,000 light-year ‘Birkeland Current’ sticking out of each end. A few tried to argue for “Relativistc Magnetohydrodynamics”, until I pointed out that Hannes Alfven demonstrated that was a fallacy of monumental proportions....”Relativistc Magnetohydrodynamics” relies upon the fallacy of “unconnected lines of magnetic Flux which spontaneously open and close”. The scientific community abandoned that 20 years ago. But in a last-ditch effort to rescue their egos, they stomped off...very pissed that I farted in their elevator.
    The mechanisms by which our solar system functions are not found by hurling our imagination upon celestial objects 26,000 light-years away. Kristian Birkeland, Irving Langmuir, Niels Bohr, Hannes Alfven, Halton Arp, Ralph Juergens, Donald Scott, and Wal Thornhill have laid a path of scientific discovery which accurately explains the reality in which we find ourselves. Magnetohydrodynamics, Alfven waves and Alfven filaments explain the electromagnetic channels which connect the sun to planets, how water forms, how planets form, why our sun is not a ball of gas but a stable electrical capacitor, and why our magnetosphere is signaling the pole-shift we now experience. The electromagnetic dupynamo within our own planet is not at all like these “black hole” acolytes proselytize, and the ramifications are profound.
    The ramifications are that of a capacitance discharge, every now-and-again, from our sun, earth, venus and moon...they are all electrical capacitors. When they discharge, and Earth is caught in cross-fire, it’s a calamity unlike we can imagine. But I don’t want to sound like and end-of-the-world kook...a bunch of us are working on making certain we build the instruments to monitor capacitance build-up and anticipate calamity.
    Let these folks pretend they understand the universe by projecting their fantasies onto celestial orbs 26,000 light years away; there are adults in the room who “grock” what’s reality looks like, based upon hypothesis, experiment, test and validation in a laboratory. These electromagnetic discharges are instigated by our sun, due to coronal mass ejection of plasma, which overloads capacitance in venus, earth and mars...this results in bizarre plasma ejections between celectial orbs.. the electrical build-up, and discharge, occurs over these filaments of plasma which connect sun and planets. It’s a giant electrical circuit...and Earth is a participant in an electrical circuit which spans galactic distances with the longest thus far 50 million light years long.

    • bipola telly
      bipola telly 3 years ago +1

      That's right.
      EU changes everything.

    • Electric Universe Eyes
      Electric Universe Eyes  3 years ago +5

      Wal Thornhill: Black Hole or Plasmoid? | Space News - ru-clip.com/video/J4NffTr_GMk/video.html

    • Electric Universe Eyes
      Electric Universe Eyes  3 years ago +2

      For further clarity - I understand that M87 & Sagittarius A* are not the same thing, while they are mentioned together several times in this narration. The author understands as well. The publications being fed to the layman merge both of these together, even though they are “different”.
      Just search “M87 Sagittarius A*” and you will understand what I mean.

    • Electric Universe Eyes
      Electric Universe Eyes  3 years ago +2

      More from the author ~ “In general, the connection between a technical dlifficulty and an astrophysical phenomenon led to what Roedere(r1985) calls an "interdisciplinary clarification,"which turned out to be very fruitful.
      E. Extrapolation to Relativistic Double Layers
      In most of the DL's in the magnetospheres and those studied so far in the laboratory, the electrons and ions have such low energies that relativistic effects are usually not very important. However, in solar flares, DL's with voltages of 10,000,000,000 Watts or even more may occur, and in galactic phenomena we may have voltages which are several orders of magnitude larger.
      Carlqvist ( 1969, 1982a,c) finds that in a relativistic double layer the distribution of charges Zn + (x) and n_(x) can be divided into three regions: two density spikes near the electrodes and one intermediate region with almost constant charge density. The particles are mainly accelerated in the spikes; whereas, they move with almost con- stant velocity in the intermediate region. Examples are given of possible galactic DL voltage differences of 10 _2 V. This means that by a straightforward extrapolation of what we know from our cosmic neighborhood, we can derive acceleration mechanisms which brings us up in the energy region of cosmic radiation.”

  • Stone Wall Research - budcat7

    The second I heard this report I said to myself, "OK, let's see what photoshopped BS they came up with" and as soon as I saw the pic I knew they just "removed" the center one wayor another. Too bad for them an old aquaintance of mine is a master "lens grinder" and made his own telescope by hand, including sets of "filters" which did a number of things including cutting out areas of various levels of intense light. Great response video, waiting to see what the Thunderbolts crew says about it!!⚡🌚⚡

  • runs naked through the forest

    this is huge quality information thanks to you, the eyes of the universe and your source!! thanks

  • Margaret Hoff
    Margaret Hoff 3 years ago +2

    Excellent work! Thank you☺️

  • paskwawi2007
    paskwawi2007 3 years ago +5

    Subscribed right away. We got to support all EU channels till there is finally a paradigm shift.

  • Y C
    Y C 3 years ago +5

    You can't peer review 2 PBs of data, nor can you peer review the computer programs they used to generate the image.

  • Scientific Lee
    Scientific Lee 3 years ago +2

    well executed brother...sharing it to anyone who asks.

  • Marcy Cami
    Marcy Cami 3 years ago +2

    Those close out😆😆😆
    Great work!!!
    Thank you👍👍👍

  • Electric Universe Eyes
    Electric Universe Eyes  3 years ago +4

    I've since noticed some of the links provided in the description do not resolve or are "no longer available". Hmmmm.

  • WIllIam Edwards Electrographic

    I hope this goes viral.

  • bipola telly
    bipola telly 3 years ago +1

    A "black hole" of immeasurable proportions!

  • bipola telly
    bipola telly 3 years ago +1

    I wonder how far away it isn't?

  • jimbones155
    jimbones155 3 years ago +3

    Let them live in ignorance. I enjoy real science. Thanks.

  • Joe Deglman
    Joe Deglman 3 years ago +1

    Here is a paper from "The Fratal Women", "A medium for the propagation of light revisited" www.researchgate.net/publication/313515057_A_Medium_for_the_Propagation_of_Light_Revisited
    In her paper she talks about the binding energy of an electron to a positron to become a photon. I would change her model of the aether medium around so that a photon is repulsive to other photons, electrons repel electrons, positrons repel positrons,and electrons are attracted to positrons, and it takes energy to separate and electron from a positron. Electrons and positrons will pair up when close enough to become photons, or particles of the ether medium. Photons do not want to be paired up, but the electric alignment in an electric pinch can force them together to make a crystalline structure. This is the "strong force." Such as a pairing of photons ejected from a laser cavity.
    So, from that basic model of Distinti's ( ru-clip.com/video/9sUP_iL6NIU/video.html ) then, we can follow the logic of binding energy into an electrical-pinch of a magnet. A magnet is a special alignment of the atoms, causing a ring current. The ring current creates an electrical pinch inside the magnet, trying to align the photons and pair them up. A ring current is essentially an inductor coil. The repulsive force of the photons (inside a magnet) is too strong to create a joining of the photons into a crystalline structure. There is a movement of photons IAW the right-hand rule.
    When the photons leave the magnetic cavity, their repulsive forces take over and push them out along the polar axis, creating a low pressure at the core and an inwards flow towards the ring current (gravity) and a flow of aether medium back to the other pole.
    As per Mudfossil's proton, a proton is a dense pack of 918 photons. ( ru-clip.com/video/g0O8AwoN8Ds/video.html ) But I disagree with his "electron flood" version of a proton.
    As per Halton Arp's model, neutrons are created out of the core of a galaxy. The newly formed neutrons are eject along the galactic jets and tend to congregate at an electric pinch, or node, along a standing wave, as in Herbig-Haros or quasars. A neutron tends to eject an electron from the dense packing and become a proton and electron, beta decay, I.E. nucleogenesis per the Halton Arp model at an electric pinch.
    The EHT image is a ring current at the galactic core or it is a toroidal form of ball lighting ejected from the core, a plasmoid.
    So an atomic explosion, is the uncoupling of the crystalline structure of atoms or photons into lighter elements or single photons from the proton dense pack, creating a repulsion between photons and protons, and a shockwave, a transfer of binding energy back into the surrounding medium.
    The same logic applies to element transmutation, there is a slight repulsion between, say hydrogen atoms, providing Brownian motion, but when electrically squeezed, it dissociates the magnetic field, allowing transmutation of elements. I.E. the Edo SAM model, a dense packing of nuclets or a crystalline-joining of electrons between the protons. etherealmatters.org/book/future/atomizer-module

  • steelyatron
    steelyatron 3 years ago +3

    Quick note Sagitarius A is a different thing from M87, one is in our galaxy, the other is another galaxy.

    • steelyatron
      steelyatron 3 years ago +1

      @jaime harlow I'm not sure I follow what you're saying here. Did I say I believed in BHs? And which premise is flawed??

    • jaime harlow
      jaime harlow 3 years ago +1

      steelyatron See....it pisses you off when tactics of the offender are turned on them. Neither M87 nor ‘Sagittarius A*’ are blackholes. Your premise is flawed and the science is worse.

    • steelyatron
      steelyatron 3 years ago +2

      @jaime harlow Yes I know they're both black holes but that doesn'y mean you have to call the image that was released M87 sagitarius A. That's just wrong, isn'yt it? I mean wtf is the problem here with taking the point I've made instead of repeatedly trying to make up BS to excuse the obvious error??

    • Electric Universe Eyes
      Electric Universe Eyes  3 years ago +1

      @jaime harlow Jaime Harlow - thank you. Exactly the case in point.

    • jaime harlow
      jaime harlow 3 years ago +1

      steelyatron the April 10 press release conflates M87 with ‘Sagittarius A*’ to be equivalent because EHT claims M87 is Black Hole, and by inference, ‘Sgr A*’ is same.

  • Cristian Truţă (Mix & Mastering Engineer)

    Dude, you keep sayin' "M87 Sag. A". M87 is a galaxy, Sag. A is the plasmoid at the center of the Milky Way. You're talking about M87's plasmoid and Milky Way's plasmoid like it's the same object.

    • Electric Universe Eyes
      Electric Universe Eyes  Year ago +1

      I am aware of that. The misleading articles published to the media by EHT framed it as such. I know better, and I'm glad you know they are Plasmoids. =)

  • TheRealVerbz
    TheRealVerbz 3 years ago

    Just uploaded this PDF regarding my assessment of the misconceptions of the alleged black hole image:

  • Electric Universe Eyes
    Electric Universe Eyes  3 years ago +1

    (Courtesy of my friends @ Space News & the Thunderbolts Project)
    Wal Thornhill: The Black Hole at the Heart of Astronomy: www.holoscience.com/wp/the-black-hole-at-the-heart-of-astronomy/
    Stephen Crothers: LIGO -- Its Claims for Black Holes and Gravitational Waves | EU2017: ru-clip.com/video/ev10ywLFq6E/video.html
    TPOD Black Heart by Stephen Smith: www.thunderbolts.info/wp/2019/04/10/black-heart/
    Space News: Black Holes Behaving Badly: ru-clip.com/video/-FdWTH08u30/video.html
    Space News: Our Galaxy's Plasmoid Puzzles Scientists: ru-clip.com/video/AwKpjTQyEVk/video.html
    Space News: Cosmic Magnetic Fields - The Ultimate Challenge to Gravity-Centric Cosmology: ru-clip.com/video/7l-ravG20CE/video.html
    Space News: Light Bulbs in Space: ru-clip.com/video/IW6ss_sQNvE/video.html
    Edward Dowdye, Jr.: The Failed Attempts to Detect Macro Lensing | EU2012: ru-clip.com/video/6kJ8gTdOsek/video.html
    Space News: Exposing the Myth of Gravitational Lensing: ru-clip.com/video/fePQdJNVF9g/video.html

  • Illum Mulli
    Illum Mulli 3 years ago +4

    im waiting on the thunderbolts project to smash them.

      ODUDUWA 3 years ago +3

      They just did

    SHOCKWAVE 3 years ago +1


  • jrg mty
    jrg mty 3 years ago +1

    The links are not working for me. I'll try later

  • Electric Universe Eyes
    Electric Universe Eyes  3 years ago +1

    Here’s a new one on EHT’s Synthetic Imaging Process - ru-clip.com/video/NoyIEGCIDXQ/video.html

  • Electric Universe Eyes
    Electric Universe Eyes  3 years ago +1

    Are you here for the first time? Watch this next - ru-clip.com/video/QbX0J8owTcc/video.html

  • Jerome Malenfant
    Jerome Malenfant 3 years ago +1

    A quotation from someone who's name you won't reveal is worthless. And M87 is not Sag A as you imply at 0:44. Sag A is at the center of our galaxy; the image you show is of another galaxy, M87. If you can't even get that straight, why should anyone pay attention to what you say? And where do you claim that 'plate' is from, Mt. Wilson or Palomar? They're DIFFERENT observatories. And x-ray images are not taken by Earth-bound observatories; since x-rays are absorbed by the atmosphere, x-ray images have to be taken up in space. In ten seconds you manage to get three things wrong!
    And nothing about the jet in M87 violates any law of 'black-hole' physics.

    • Electric Universe Eyes
      Electric Universe Eyes  3 years ago +3

      Jerome Malenfant I made this for you. Enjoy...or not. - ru-clip.com/video/Cc2OK1H1Ajw/video.html

    • jaime harlow
      jaime harlow 3 years ago +2

      Jerome Malenfant - Velikovsky may have gotten a lot wrong...but he got a great many important items spot-on correct. I do not subscribe to all of Velikovsky’s musings...but within his framework, he empowered us to start thinking “outside the box” because “standard model” is filled with no predictions, and no demonstrable interpretation of reality consistent with how we think about the reality in which we find ourselves. Velikovsky was perfectly correct about what we’ve discovered about Venus...temp, magnetosphere, energy emission, etc. Dave Talbot and Wal Thornhill recognize Velikovsky wasn’t correct about many things as well...however, the proto-saturn model poposed by Talbot and Thornhill has merit. It explains much we find in petroglyphs, evolution of phyla on our planet, AND is consistent with Dr Anthony Peratt’s Plasma Universe Model. Most people do not know that Peratt was Hannes Alfven’s best grad student...and the guy has a huge brain. He understands plasma astrophysics like maybe a handful of people on this earth...and Don Scott’s electric sun model is being demonstrated in SAFIRE Project. SAFIRE team is gonna rock our world once the papers start flowing out of their lab.

    • jaime harlow
      jaime harlow 3 years ago +2

      Jerome Malenfant - insects do not have eyelids....the ultraviolet radiation from our yellow sun does not affect those who travel by daylight...and those who are adversely affected only come out at night...most insect are reflective ‘green’, thise that aren’t green, are camouflaged for their environment...typically brown. If you study the manner inwhich various vertebrates “see” their reality, they are equally sensitive to ultraviolet as humans....fish included (who lack eyelids, but blinded by ultraviolet light...like us.).

    • Electric Universe Eyes
      Electric Universe Eyes  3 years ago +3

      Jerome Malenfant What’s crap about Velikovsky? I find it interesting many of his predictions in science has since been proven. Or is it his relative comparison of scripture and myth to sciences that make you uncomfortable? Even his buddy Einstein would have had more to say in support of Velikovsky had he not died before such times. You say you “read Velikovsky”... his letters between him and Einstein? His many books and lectures? Or are you of those who read the first few chapters and instantly dismissed his work because it went against everything in the face of science and control - the same world you and I are arguing about today.
      You like to not answer questions I see. The cognitive dissonance is strong in you.
      You don’t have to continue - but I’m all ears if you’ll actually answer my questions.
      All I know is you believe in “Black Holes”, but refuse to look at evidence right here on earth. Did you evolve from an Ape? :)

    • Jerome Malenfant
      Jerome Malenfant 3 years ago

      @Electric Universe Eyes I read Velikofsky years ago. It's crap.

  • Michael Teoh
    Michael Teoh 3 years ago +3

    What a joke. How many time you mentioned "M87 Sagittarius A" in the video? Do you even know that M87 and Sgr A are two different thing?

    • Electric Universe Eyes
      Electric Universe Eyes  3 years ago +2

      Michael Teoh You called it out exactly! 3:37 is where I explain why. It’s not me nor the authors issuing. Cheers mate

    • Electric Universe Eyes
      Electric Universe Eyes  3 years ago +4

      Michael Teoh I’ll say it again if you like. Thanks! That’s the first time I’ve ever been called a 👨‍🔬 scientist! Lol - never even thought I’d be considered a teacher, let alone a RU-clipr! You rock my friend.
      You still didn’t pay attention. What do you disagree with here?
      I also didn’t write this, only narrated it. I’m just a messenger of what I see. I do enjoy your feedback though - I’m very curious to know what is inside this “black hole”.

    • Michael Teoh
      Michael Teoh 3 years ago +2

      0:37 Say it again?
      0:56 Say it again?
      1:10 Say it again?
      3:37 Say it again?
      I guess those are enough to explain why you are a "scientist" at the University of RU-clip.

    • Electric Universe Eyes
      Electric Universe Eyes  3 years ago +3

      That's Sagittarius A*, actually, spelled "Sagittarius" and pronounced "A-star". HERBIG-HARO OBJECT / BIRKELAND CURRENT
      ~The Black Hole in Science~
      Scientist have published an image which they describe through their understanding of Relativity and elaborated upon by others like Stephen Hawking. The problem is, they don't understand or are unwilling to understand the misnomer called Black Holes. All celestial bodies(including BHs) exist along a kink instability in a Birkeland current filament. The center of our Milky Way galaxy is known to be a plasmoid instability. Our sun is also a kink instability. And even our planet produces collisional and non-collisional plasmoid instabilities in our core and upper atmosphere.
      "According to some estimates the bright radio source known as Sagittarius A* (pronounced A-star), residing at the heart of our Milky Way galaxy, is more than 50 light-years wide. It's radio glow stems from synchrotron radiation, the result of charged particles spiraling around magnetic field lines at relativistic speeds. Assumptions have been made that the Sag A* complex is the result of a massive black hole. Yet, save for mathematical computer models based on gravitational conjecture, not a single black hole has ever been found. Might the well known plasma dynamics of an electric universe reveal the true nature of the Milky Way's galactic center?"
      The universe is comprised of plasma, the First state of matter. As a mechanism for transport of energy and data, Birkeland currents consisting of Alfven circuits are prevalent throughout the universe. These Birkeland currents 'kink' at approximate octaves of the wavelength of light. Kink instabilities are well studies in plasma physics and provide the pathway to understanding plasmoid instabilities main stream science is referring to as Black Holes.
      As our comprehension of the research into "z pinch" continues, the idea that a 'singularity' is the source of infinite energy will go by the wayside.
      The Z-Pinch Machine at Sandia National Laboratory has recreated the plasma physics of a star. While doing so, they have observational data which disputes conventional theory of Black Holes.
      ~Monster X-ray Machine Blasts Apart Black Hole Theory~
      "Our research suggests it will be necessary to rework many scientific papers published over the last 20 years," he said. "Our results challenge models used to infer how fast black holes swallow matter from their companion star. We are optimistic that astrophysicists will implement whatever changes are found to be needed."
      In hindsight, if Relativity, Quantum Mechanics, and all the patchwork prepared by Hawking to fix the definition of Black hole properties doesn't accurately describe the phenomena, we should use observational data rather than hypothetical conjectures.
      "In short, since we cannot change the principles of either quantum mechanics or general relativity, Hawking proposes to slightly modify the description of black holes.
      Hence his remark that black holes do not exist the way we thought they did, as we thought we knew them."
      For you folks visually stimulated, the image of a Black Hole might impress. But, for those driven by real science, this image is a slap in the face to logic and research in plasma cosmology...
      Credit ~A Microwaved Planet
      / April 10 at 11:11 AM

    • Electric Universe Eyes
      Electric Universe Eyes  3 years ago +4

      You obviously weren't listening. I understand that clearly.

  • Kronos -
    Kronos - 3 years ago +4

    In before sweeney...