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I respect these gentlemen for keeping their composure. They certainly got a bit heated and intense, but they remained professional and respectful of each other.
So a 7 year old has never heard the word "Liar" and doesn't know the definition?!?! Please. What a bunch of BS. Sounds like daddy IS lying. Great job Jeffrey.
It's so ridiculous you have to ask your self "Is this theatre?" I wish there was a society for full and open debates where issues are debated publicly and frequently. When Lord says "the Klan is the base of the democratic party" you know someone paid him to say that.
Good debate. Van Jones and Jeffrey Lords expressed themselves well. It was good to see some substance discussed in detail.
By Jeffrey Lord's definition, pointing out someone is racist is an act of racism. Makes no sense.If he has no better rebuttal than to point out that the South used to vote democrat (and somehow twist this into the statement that the KKK was progressive!!!) then he doesn't have a leg to stand on.
@Chosen 1 lolAnd if someone slaps you in the face, saying they slapped you in the face is the same as slapping them in the face.
xTheOxx actually it makes allot of sense.
I found this fascinating as I watched it live...I could imagine the producers, the other people onstage, and the cameramen transfixed by Van's visceral outrage at Jeff trying to defend Trump's decisions....I was amazed that no one jumped in, and that the producers let it go on so long...What made it so real was Van's obvious discomfort with something that should have been so obvious for Trump, and Jeff, to understand how incomprehensible in 2016 that anyone would not immediately disavow and ridicule an endorsement by the KKK, regardless of party affiliation. That Jeff used the fact that the KKK used to support democrats is completely irrelevant to how voters today would take an endorsement like that....While Trump may have been hedging his bets, because we all know that there are a lot of racist voters out there, it was unbelievable when i saw it, and agree with Van 100%...Does it hurt Trump? I don't know, does it hurt Bernie when Russel Simmons says that Bernie is not sympathetic to blacks....
thank you for standing up for what is right VJ and telling it how it is....it is absurd that this is the leading runner for the republicans
Jones is a hypocrite. - he supports Hillary Clinton. When will Hillary renounce her friendship with Robert Bryd - a KKK Grand Dragon ?
Keep the masses divided, easier to control.
damn rock yu got s damn good point there Mr,,,,,,
I would like to see Van Jones and David Duke have a conversation.
"What difference does it make?!" Lol this line is trending slowly but surely on the left for some strange reason
@The Valve Donald Trump is not going to disavow any group that would support him, no matter how rotten to the core they are. In fact, the more rotten the better to him. They're his kind of people.
@The Valve Cuz his pops, Fred Trump, was part of the Klan himself, and was reportedly arrested back in the year 1927. I'm surprised Van didn't bring that point up to this Trump lackey lmao
He’s talking about the party now. This guy keeps bringing up an Old way they were. But vans question is “whether it’s this or that, it’s bad. So why does Trump not disown the “democratic” KKK? Seems like a slam dunk
Funny how he says he didn't want to see his child watch the Kardashian's & now he's flirting with one. Maybe his son was right. Van Jones, you're liar
He disavowed like 10 times
@cierrasme not really but he couldn't hear in the interview. He said give me a list and I will tell you. Which he never acknowledged the kkk.
+tom k he denied several times in that one interview guy and I am a woman
@cierrasme one interview guy.
Good point. He did act very dismissive of them
+Mike Swan I think his reaction was like that because he doesn't want to even acknowledge the kkk as being legitimate because he is not a racist and doesn't want to be on the defensive all the time. plus, the media has been the one who interjected race.
2:54 I actually have to agree with the guy. Dividing by race is what everyone needs to stop doing. Everyone is, bottom line, Americans now. We accept all the groups that divide by race and everyone just needs to accept them? I say treat them all the same when they form up and get rid of them. KKK, BLM...anything related to race and treat everyone equal. Theres groups set up all over this country that revolve around race and to be honest it is sick. We have black fraternities on college campuses, native American college funds...yet everyone is "equal". If a college fund what set up for just caucasians there would be a huge issue. It all just needs to stop.
Did you hear about the uproar that happened when people were upset about a white dating site. People were so up in arms about it. Claiming that they could just simply go to the bar, and meet someone. You have dating websites for damn near everything, but when Becky with the good hair wants to be with someone that's her race apparently it's a bad thing.
@***** That reply made no sense at all or had a point
"Dividing people by race," as is repeated over and over by some in the GOP is quite different than openly acknowledging that there is, in fact, a racial divide in our country and discussing it.
We can't live in a colorblind country until we address what this place has put Black Americans through and how there were never any kind of reparations. Once black people were released from slavery they still lived in a country that openly viewed them as second class citizens up until the 60's. That was barely over fifty years ago.....Just think about all that..There's only been a little over 50 yrs of black people living with the same rights as white people vs the 400+ years of black people living in this country as slaves, second class citizens, and outcasts to white society. Don't you think there are going to be side effects? Don't you think that's a pretty traumatic state to live in for hundreds of years?What has the U.S government done to make up for this?Any kind of rights black people obtained were fought for, and millions of black people gave their lives to obtain those rights. There was never any kind of "i'm sorry" shown from the U.S government or any kind of effort to clean up the mess this country made. Until that happens, we will never live in a colorblind country.
haha "Dad, you're a liar!" - maybe he DOES know what it means!
And so are you
@Alpha Bogeyman Baron hopefully can figure it out. Good thing that Donald doesn't parent much.
@Turbo Jones Many kids did, and even they saw what an asshole Trump was.
How does he think Baron Trump feels when CNN etc all call Trump a liar,racist etc every night?.
bringing his 7yr old son into the conversation for emotional impact is as low as one can go
@Zenjaro Armstrong If someone has something to offer Trump that he can use, it doesn't matter where it comes from, he'll take it.
Which 7 year old?
there is no excuse...he uses his son as canon fodder...
+mtklaric Being a psychopath running in the republican party is as low as one can go. Tough on terrorism except when its domestic.
You're dividing people by race by quoting my candidate. Nice deflection there! And fallacy of logic.
Classic Van Jones, trying to dig as deep as he can to find an excuse to pull the race card.
Great debate.. big van jones fan
"Move to Canada" searches on Google hit an all-time high after super Tuesday.
I love how Van Jones forgets that Hillary was BFF with the head of the KKK and Trump disavowed the KKK.
Merry Christmas CNN, you got the sound bite you were looking for. Time to give Van Jones a raise.
He makes a good point
CNN needs to talk Jeffrey Lord and tell him that he won't be coming on anymore. Not because he is a conservative, but because he doesn't understand what the hell he is talking about.
Andrew Humes How dare you!
+SlypherSpoons RU-clip needs to talk SlypherSpoons and tell him that he won't be commenting on videos anymore. Not because he doesn't understand what the hell he is talking about, but because he used the term "fucking fuck".Like, honestly, how old are you.
+Andrew Humes - Agreed. On another note - Hawks look pretty good. Used to live very close to Princes Park and my old team had a horrible showing against Essendon the other night. Shocking.Drumpf Sucks !!
Lord gives straw man after straw man, and Jones doesn't call him on it. This is a perfect example of how and why Trump is so successful: we live in a time when logical fallacy passes as argument.
"innocent BLACK kids"- 'no innocent, kids." I actually get what Jeffery is saying. I'm independent and I think the demacrats use racially dividing words way too much. The Republicans mostly call Americans, no matter the race, Americans; well, except illegal immegrants, and I prefer that tone better than the Dems saying Latinos, black, whites, Asians. We're all Americans. I loved round two of their passionate conversation.
I am in my 50's been all over the South and never run into the Kkk,,load of crap,,very few of them ,,more fake drama
have you ever heard of the song "Despacito" by Luis Fonzi and Daddy Yankee?
@James Washington I think you don't know shit about American history.
@lordsonnyxixi And blaming "white" people in 2018 for everything isn't helping anyone.
Illegal immigrants are not Americans --- just an FYI.
That's why they keep saying things like we're going to take this country back
The cognitive dissonance in the comments section is amazing.
Jeffrey Lord acting like he knows history but doesn't know what "Nixon's Southern Strategy" was
The Democratic party from that time was a completely different party than it is now. There was a major party shift through the years basically flipping the parties over on opposite sides, where the democratic party of back then encompasses more conservative values and can more properly identify with the modern GOP.
reading the comment I would of thought this was a clip from Fox news.
@Charlie is it cold in Russia. This is like 4 years ago. You suppose to trolling the new stuff. I hope you don't lose your job for this. These election has always begin a boom in Russia.
umadbro calm down my brova
Fox fans don't stay in echo chambers.
+Brendan FletcherAlso, the CBC is about as bad as RT.Don't listen to that propaganda bullshit.
+Brendan FletcherI was that 12% boy.I'm sad we live in this country that a majority are against Trump and for Bernie.Are country is mostly leftist and with that, one sided. I will only support Trump again if he reveals more of his plan in-depth when he becomes the nomination.
Good Job Jeffery, put Van Jones in his seat
Liberalism divides by race.
Joining his son and playing the victim card... he lost
This is the stupidest argument I have ever heard
go easy on the guy with the glasses you can tell he hasnt done his homework ,,,lol
Wow his son knows he's a liar
Sanders and Cruz won Oklahoma. Awesome!
you know your big when you got people trying to destroy your image
Looking back, the problem about stupid debates like this is that there are people dumb enough to believe the BS that Jeffrey Lord is spewing. Looking at the comments there are a lot of misinformed people out there who quote lies that Lord states so they can repeat them as facts.
50 years ago, too long to count, 150 years ago, too short to forget, talk about a win win. Democrats make sure they can't lose.
Slavery can never be forgotten. Same with the holocaust. Dont be ridiculous.
The problem is that both Lord (about the Dems dividing by race and the Klan's history, though Populist instead of Progressive) and Jones (about the Klan NOW) are correct.
The debate moderator Cooper was wise to let this go on.If it was Don Lemmon, he would have got scared and stopped the debate immediately, as he so does often whenever people go deep into debate
Does anyone take van Jones seriously? Read a history book already
Absolute 🔥 years later.
hes right about democrats deviding by race.
+bkcpisme Stacked argument. Damn!
@37OH55V Sure, but when has anyone in the Democratic Party since after the Civil Rights Act ever stumped with radically racist policies like Trump has?
@bkcpisme I'm from out of town, so to speak, my friend, so I am an outsider looking in on it all. For whatever this is worth to you, or not, both of your political parties are comprised of individuals, and neither one of your political parties has a monopoly over the other in terms of racism, or sexism for that matter. Not to be construed as a judgement, friend, just an observation.
@37OH55V So folks who would later be considered Republicans, then, is what you're saying. The Democratic Party to which you refer stopped being that when Strom Thurmond left the party to join the Republicans, around the time the Civil Rights Act was signed.
+dubya85 I'd like an example too, please.
I was waiting for the violin moment with the mention of his little children.
He mentions his children because it’s true. .... When we were taught to NOT act like someone like Trump all our lives, What are we supposed to say to our children about these double standards?
Donald Trump 4.5 years later asked to address white supremacists on prime time TV: “Stand back and standby”
"repeats what trump says" quit being racist!!!
He want even Face the Facts
Van Jones is insane!!
Bravo Jeffery .
Van got owned!😎👍🏻
"we have to make sure this country is colorblind" that's how u know someone is a racist. they can't tolerate other colors. I love my brown ass skin. Learn to look at it and love it. The earthing is shrinking every generation.
Upload the complete clip
And vann gets his owned LMFAO
The greatest thing I've ever seen on tv...
Jeffery, I’m a fan!
and man came back and klan came back was the last thing he ever saw.
donald trump said i disavow kkk a hundred times. good grief. they indorse him trump did not indorse them. how many times does he have to say i disavow
CNN.... o CNN.... let's not be TOO one sided today.
Van jones owned compilation
Van Jones the divider and one of many.
So Hilary clinton is perfect?
This is a time when Democrats and Republicans can unite against a common threat and Lord can't help but talk in terms of leftists and rightists. I can't help but weep for him and his *blind faith* to neo-conservative ideology.
I am not politically affiliated. I am viewing this whole issue as if I was an outsider. Notice the phrase I emboldened; that is where the issue lies.
Aren't you guilty of the exact same thing?
"it is...the democratic party of today divides by race" BOOM!
Good conversation , trump may be an ass at times, but to label the klan with him is why American politics is in the trouble its in.
+Nathaniel Wright (N. C. Wright) the Klan is a boogeyman people bring up when trying demonize white people. they haven't been relevant for decades. when was the last time the Klan did anythjng? how many members does it have? now compare that to Islamic terrorists organizations today.
trump was not labeled with the clan, the criticism was that he's passionate about stopping Isis but not homegrown terrorist in our own country
Van Jones is so bent left, he's falling off the face of Reality and Truth!
They both have truth behind their voice, but their problem is that they try to stand on their point without trying to adapt his words to meet his and see where they contradict, simply put, they are over nothing because they are making a stand
that was 50 years ago but he still holds on to the slavery thing smh
"Low Information" pundits
What about when Democrats refused to apologize to the police officer who was exonerated of Michael Brown's murder because the kid tried to take his gun???
Yeah the Klan is such a huge problem. give me a break.
That's why they keep saying things like we're going to take this country backtake this country back from what
@Robert Johnson code word for rascist
+Daniel Placencia Take back from what? Our money makers of the country are LEAVING the country. All in favor of cheap labor and manipulated currencies outside. Countries like China and Mexico. Our leaders manage poorly. Look at companies like Smithfield Foods - an American company acquired by a Chinese company. Why didn't we try to monetize their pork? I worked with an Australian company GIPP doing trade into China. The Chinese made exclusive deals with Tariffs and both countries benefit from it. Why aren't we doing that? Because bad deal makers. This is my career. I've also worked with other clients like Firesky bananas. We need to TAKE it BACK. Ask away.
+Robert Johnson you should tell Lil that to your Republican nominees tell him about their failed policies and why we came into the recession
+Daniel Placencia When did I blame all our problems on immigration? High taxes that cause companies to leave and take jobs with them is a big problem too. Subsidizing low income jobs with welfare (more taxes) is just another way of perpetuating the problem. We need to lower taxes to bring back companies that provide better paying manufacturing jobs. Not everybody has the ability or aptitude to go to college so how do you expect these people to better themselves without better paying manufacturing jobs? And giving away all our low paying, manual labor jobs to illegal immigrants (they take good jobs too) doesn't help either. We have our own low skilled Americans that need these jobs desperately. Agricultural jobs can be done by immigrants that come here legally with green cards.
+Robert Johnson I find it funny how you blame immigration on all this country's problems instead of your Republican establishment for making all these failed policies for the money to go to the rich and for the poor to get poorer seems to me that you were part of the problem and not the solution
I agree we should not have any disagreements with any group that threatens a person based on race that is not America. Its a disgrace that this man cant see that!
this is baffling
Color blind doesn't work. Look at the research. We need to embrace and celebrate our differences and draw strength from these differences. I agree with Van Jones. That someone (of ANY party) has the audacity to say such insensitive comments and to engage in this name-calling based on race, sex and religion is appalling. That people are stirred to vote for such an individual is downright scary. Party membership is irrelevant. Where is the voice of reason? Where is the voice of compassion?
Invite Van Jones on the show to see if there is any credit left on the race card. LMAO
@Jency VictorI guess you have not heard what Donald Trump's response was to the issue? Look it up."Where's my damn race card when I need it, dammit?" Amazing how the assholes conglomerate and stink up the place when they are collectively losing their asses. I know...it's nature.
Van jones got his ass handed to him. LOL
You must have watched a completely different video. Lord is a fool.
Hell yes he did lol
trump's a man with a clan, i mean a plan. just kidding- go trump
Being color-blind has never and will never fix the problem. The problem lies with terrorist groups, such as the KKK, and xenophobic folk, such as Donald Trump, who ignore the issues of race, but utilize racial anti-sentiment in order to get elected by the people who are racist and discriminatory to begin with. Took everything I had not to throw something while watching this.
What about Hillary Clinton and Sen. Robert KKK Bird?Let's see what Van Jones has to say about that. She praised Bird knowing he was in the KKK.
Wow, this Trump supporter is nothing but a baiter…clearly a master at evasion, division, deception and controversy but totally disregarding of the actual issue at hand and authentic dialogue on the topic. This Van Jones is a very patient, classy and gracious fellow.
This has to be sarcasm.
There's just no talking no sense in to these guys for some reason they think it's a Democratic Party to separate and everybody
Hearing Jeffrey Lord call the KKK a bunch of Leftists and Progressives is the funniest thing I've heard in a very long time. That's kind of like calling Code Pink a bunch of Right-Wingers.
+FreedomFighter2112 Then why aren't the KKK and other Supremacist groups endorsing Bernie Sanders? lol And why are they endorsing Republicans and Donald Trump? I dare you to call a KKK member a "Leftist", a "Liberal", or a "Progressive"...LMAO
+Haley Smith This is 2016, not the 1950s.---Prior to the formation of the Conservative coalition, which helped realign the Democratic and Republican party ideologies in the mid-1960s, the Republican party historically advocated Liberalism and Progressivism. Whereas, the Southern Democratic Party advocated Conservatism. In other words, the Southern Democratic Party was the Conservative Party and the Republican Party was the Liberal/Progressive Party during the civil war era all the way up until the 1960s. Lincoln himself was very much a Liberal and Progressive President who was hated by the Southern Conservatives....Especially by the Southern Civil War heroes who saw Lincoln and others from the North as "Liberal Yankees".---The civil rights act in 1964 was the major turning point. This is the period when the Parties basically switched sides…names. The Democratic Party would now become the Liberal Party and the Republican Party would now become the Conservative Party. This is when the majority of Southern states literally turned from Blue to Red overnight as the Republican Party lured and accepted the Racist Dixiecrats into their Party. The Dixiecrats were angry at the Democrats for passing the Civil Rights act and giving Blacks and other minorities various rights and threatening desegregation.---So for those out there saying that Democrats had KKK members in the past, you're exactly right but that's because back then the Southern Democratic Party was the Party of Conservatives. Even MLK was a member of the Republican Party back when the Republican Party was the Party of Liberals and Progressives. However, as I mentioned before, that all changed once the civil rights act took place. Blacks, including MLK, switched from the Republican Party to the Democratic Party and the Racist Dixiecrats (Democrats from the South) switched to the Republican Party.---Now, the KKK and other White Supremacist groups vote Republican and support people like Donald Trump and other Republican politicians that spew hatred towards minorities. Trying to get a KKK member to vote for a Democrat today would be like trying to get a member from Code Pink or Black Lives Matter to vote for a Republican.
+Knas Knas I'm not talking about 50 years ago, I'm talking about today's era.
+FreedomFighter2112 I suggest you make some research on the KKK, you´ll find out that it is infact a movement that was supported by the democratic party, since the republican party in the 1860´s and 1870´s was opposing slavery, KKK was a resistance of the republicans goal of establishing equality for black americans. www.history.com/topics/ku-klux-klan
Why is jones whining
Geez Van, keep your hands to yourself
@Noses Malone There is no defense for grabbing someone you are debating with Noses. The rest of your babble is unintelligible.
@Kaladin Stormblessed Don't grab me in a contentious discussion. That's it period. Write a book Kaladin, don't care. Just don't do it.
+GrowBetter "Blatant intimidation and bullying" isn't that a bit of an over statement? The very notion itself is distorted through interpretation creating an obfuscating perspective to other individuals. Therefore, I have to disagree with your sentiment. Believe it or not, that is just how some people communicate even if the tension is high. Intimidation and bullying both have a negative connotation, typically associated with adverse behaviors (e.g. fighting, pushing, slandering, etc.) What transpired here does not in the least come anywhere near your referendum.
+Atlee Lang No kidding. I would've slapped that hand off faster then he could blink. Blatant intimidation and bullying.
Left is starting to get desperate.
CNN race card BOYCOTT CNN!!!
van jones.. what an embarrassment
Van Jones was delusional back then. Hes eased up on Trump and has caught backlash
I do not see black or white, I see American, something the man with glasses certainly does not see... #AllLivesMaterTrump 2016
His reaction to the question was alarmingly non passionate
+Lord Donald Trump (Trump Will Dominate The World) saying you dont see black or white is an insult. If you can see height and weight why cant you see race? the trick isnt to not see race but to see it and not care
+Lord Donald Trump (Trump Will Dominate The World) Yes, all lives matter, but not all lives are treated the same in this country, particularly when race is involved. Being color blind only serves to ignore the systemic and institutionalized plight of minorities in this country.
+Lord Donald Trump (Trump Will Dominate The World) You forgot to add Sith to the beginning of your name. It would fit better with the picture... just saying.
??? did he just blame the Democrats for racism? lol
“Dad you’re a liar”...it’s pretty bad when your young kids call you out on your bullshit😂😂
Only time I see black and whites divided is when government is involved. My god people let it go. Nobody alive today was part of what happened to slaves. I had the KKK burning crossed up the street where I lived in a field and I had black friends and some great friends. Color never mattered to me ever. I use to ride my bike with a black girl up the street and go fishing with black friends. We played sport together, lifted weights at school and never did whites and blacks have a problem. We never had an issue. the retired black lady running the register at Walmart when I go there is the sweetest person I know. I am white. Once you turn on the damn TV its a problem again.... You really want to help us all lets get a person that will bring jobs back to this country. The democrats have proven to approve things that do not do that.
deflect deflect deflect
The KKK officially endorsed Donald Trump. I think it's safe to assume that every racist in America voted for Trump.