We need to stand together! DMCA and Copyright Abuse!

  • Опубликовано: 14 фев 2019
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Комментарии • 4 435

  • Brendan Hansen
    Brendan Hansen 2 дня назад

    Okay, yeah sure. I agree that it is important to be aware, the world is screwed in more ways than one. Considering it is getting out of hand.... Might I suggest you advertise to your viewers what we SHOULD do about it? At the end of the video, you said you were still going to be sticking around and more likely than (paraphrasing here) take it like a man and keep going. These companies are literally robbing your livelihood and thousands if not MILLIONS of other peoples income as well.
    If I may be so humble to propose the idea, band together with a group of influential youtubers and get something done about this! A lot of people brainstorming and working together on weekends could get a lot accomplished if nothing else there is power in numbers...
    I understand if you don't end up reading this comment or, simply don't want to pursue the matter beyond reason but, there are a lot of other smaller and weaker youtube presences who would love an advocate such as yourself. Hang in there, and whatever you decide I wish you the best of luck. (as a note this is a bit of a cookie cutter post so that it can reach more people, I intend to send this thought to multiple channels. Let me know what you think if you are up for it.)

  • Jeff Suttles
    Jeff Suttles 4 дня назад

    Where is RU-clip's competition? Where are our alternatives for equally monetizable American video-sharing websites?

  • blorfus blorfus
    blorfus blorfus 6 дней назад

    Kidding? There needs to be a rule integrated where the individual who is striking a video needs to provide his full name and address to ensure that that person is accountable for his/her actions.

  • George T
    George T 6 дней назад

    All RU-cliprs make your own legal partnership company that will punish DMCA trolls.

  • Turbo Cayman
    Turbo Cayman 9 дней назад +1

    OK, let's get back to flashing bios updates in Nvidia cards.

  • Turbo Cayman
    Turbo Cayman 9 дней назад

    More Drama!; More Drama!; More Drama!

  • leafbelly
    leafbelly 10 дней назад

    So, journalists all have ulterior motives and political alignments, but RU-cliprs don't? Most journalists work for an hourly rate/salary and are not motivated by "clicks" and "likes." The companies they work for may have motives/alignments, but most journalists just have a job to do and are trying to do their best. This is what happens when journalists are called "the enemy." Of course there are bad apples, but Jay, disparaging hard-working journalists doesn't help.

  • Jeevus Chrust
    Jeevus Chrust 15 дней назад

    Honestly the only thing that changes shit like this, in my opinion anyway, is a legitimate viable competitor to RU-clip. The way it is now with them not changing what they do isn't because of incompetence, fear, or anything like that, it's because they know they don't have to. They hold a monopoly on video streaming on demand when it comes to the internet and thus, as a result, they don't have to adapt. They know that people will continue to eat the shit sandwich because it's the only game in town.
    If there was a competitor that pushed them to be better then maybe it would change. If they lost content creators and revenue as a result they, like any other company, would notice simply because it affects the only thing they care about which is their own bottom line. If a lot of that could be attributed to them not handling DMCA notices correctly then I guarantee you they'd change. There would be sweeping changes and shifts in how they handle this stuff. But for now that won't change. They know that the content creators need them a lot more than they need the content creators. If one left, like yourself, they know that someone else would eventually fill that void. The only way this changes is if, en masse, there's an exodus. Which won't happen because everybody would eat it financially and the holdouts would prop them up just enough for it to be fine.
    It sucks. I don't make content but I do know the law. The fact that companies like Vox or whatever can do this, without repercussion, is disgusting. And the thing is even if the DMCA is flawed my fear is that if it gets revised the end result might actually be worse for content creators and better for the content holders. We need to remember that the DMCA was formed in 1998, far before we had the piracy we have now, RU-clip, and the whole can of worms that exists that is the intertubes. If it gets reworked by corrupt beureaucrats that are in the pockets of lobbyists like the RIAA, MPAA, or ESA I have no doubt in my mind that it will favor them over the little guy.
    So, truth be told, we're kinda fucked.

  • Lucas Osco
    Lucas Osco 16 дней назад

    I really wish we had an RU-clip alternative. I mean, a real one.

  • Edward James Scott Kenway
    Edward James Scott Kenway 17 дней назад

    I so proud of our tech community. We stand together in crisis #justiceforkyle

  • kane van boxtel
    kane van boxtel 17 дней назад

    Can anyone just put a strike on the verge.

  • Beba 2
    Beba 2 17 дней назад

    Well guys, how you yanks see copyright is totally different then how rest of the world sees it. And that is main issue, that you try to enforce your view to the rest of the world.
    Doesn't work, thank God. In most cases.

  • golong 1
    golong 1 18 дней назад

    If the complainant is big, youtube would happily comply. But if it is mere youtuber, youtube would cover their ears.

  • David Di Franco
    David Di Franco 19 дней назад

    Great video! Very well explained.

  • Ralf F
    Ralf F 21 день назад

    You're a great guy #saveyourinternet #censorshipmachine #artikel13

  • JM Classic Movies
    JM Classic Movies 21 день назад

    Watch This Guy Use Indecorous Language in Violation of RU-clip Policy And Get Away With It! For criticizing such a action I received a violation warning on my channel. What's your opinion? ru-clip.com/video/h2Gv6VbENAU/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE.html #RU-clip

  • Jimmy The Powerful ! FU
    Jimmy The Powerful ! FU 22 дня назад

    Jay is a true MAGA!

  • J ay
    J ay 23 дня назад

    Welcome to verrge, another buzz feed moment.

  • Alex
    Alex 23 дня назад


  • Jose Lemus
    Jose Lemus 24 дня назад

    Why dont content creators just start striking back with claims against the verge and other abusers. push the system to the limits.

  • Aaron
    Aaron 24 дня назад +1

    “They’re abusing power that does not exist” I like that.

  • Heldermaior
    Heldermaior 25 дней назад

    Why the fuck are you hating on journalists? I mean, everyone hates bad reporters but these blanket statements is not helpful. It just spreads more conspiracy theories and attacks a class who needs protecting from their own editors.

  • ScooterFXRS
    ScooterFXRS 25 дней назад

    Vox Media 🔔 Shame 🔔 Shame 🔔 Shame 🔔 Shame 🔔 Shame 🔔 Shame 🔔 Shame 🔔 Shame 🔔 Shame 🔔

  • m
    m 26 дней назад

    This constantly happens to those who are right of the far left wing on
    RU-clip. Will you support other creators in this battle? Latest example
    with Steven Crowder ru-clip.com/video/PWWeeGLyOWA/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE.html

  • Bjarnes
    Bjarnes 26 дней назад

    Lyle only reacted on the errors in the video. Think he's home safe.

  • VendettaRev
    VendettaRev 26 дней назад

    they put the manpower to check every channel if it's eligible for monetization but no manpower for strikes and claims?

  • Francisco Marin
    Francisco Marin 26 дней назад

    That sucks youtube!....and youtube trying endlessly to get me to upgrade to red.

  • sasuke671
    sasuke671 26 дней назад

    What does he mean by "Linus even!"

  • redxsage
    redxsage 26 дней назад

    I think I Subscribed to *The Verge* about five years ago. They did a pretty good road trip video for the Tesla Model S back then. I don't remember any of their stuff I have watched since then. I think it's time to Unsubscribe now...

  • Carlos Mendes
    Carlos Mendes 27 дней назад

    At this time, 334 verge guys watched this video.

  • Akshat Gandhi
    Akshat Gandhi 27 дней назад

    One solution can be to imply the same restrictions on the claiming channel if the claim is found false. Preferably worse to make it so that people thing twice but that might be somewhat farfetched.

  • Mike Soda
    Mike Soda 27 дней назад

    I barely ever visited the verge & always used an adblocker & noscript. Well now I'll strictly avoid them like I do malware prone sites. Even if in the distant future they claim to change & possibly do & become a good company. Too late, once you do some shit like this I don't forget or forgive. Just think too, this wasn't even done to me, imagine how I'd respond if it was lol.

    DANK GAMING with SOFAxKiNGxBAK3D 27 дней назад

    The lyle video was hilarious... He doesn't deserve this bs.. The verge can suckuh my wang

  • Axctal
    Axctal 27 дней назад

    Sue verge for purgery?

  • Dude Outdoors
    Dude Outdoors 28 дней назад

    I hope none of this effects my tiny channel! 😕

  • Tomás Morgado
    Tomás Morgado 28 дней назад

    Like, very good v video edition. Done. Thank you my friend

  • NoThisIsPratickStar
    NoThisIsPratickStar 28 дней назад

    4chan style raids on Vox, Buzzfeed, and Verge sites and YT channels?

  • JosephK42
    JosephK42 28 дней назад

    Sounds like a new platform that defends against abuse of dmca needs to happen.

  • number 12
    number 12 28 дней назад

    Verge striking people *who knew*

  • mywereldza
    mywereldza 28 дней назад

    Why should we stand together now? When Jörg Sprave started a RU-cliprs Union nobody with significant viewer count wanted to join, so why do something now? He saw this coming, a seriously broken RU-clip platform, an no one took him seriously.
    Join Jörg's RU-cliprs union, have a discussion with him and take it further from there.

  • DriftTwo
    DriftTwo 28 дней назад

    The most damaging was what the Vox / Verge has inflicted upon themselves. They way they handle the situation, I think just discredits their reputation and creditability. They will loose some of their followers because of this.

  • Luka Šoštarić
    Luka Šoštarić 28 дней назад

    Nice overview and explanation.

  • trawel Grad
    trawel Grad 28 дней назад

    7:15 How about going against YT if they don't do their jobs? Maybe you YTers should stand together and go help him go to curt against YT for a compensation. So you all can clear that out and have somthing to refer if he realy happens to win.

  • Badhon Ebrahim
    Badhon Ebrahim 28 дней назад


  • Nathan Gehman
    Nathan Gehman 28 дней назад +16

    Should we all just copyright strike the Verge?

  • J.M. Clark
    J.M. Clark 28 дней назад

    I ain't touching this one; white on black crime gets no play in the blue torpedo bro.

  • Captain Ofiheart
    Captain Ofiheart 28 дней назад

    It's better to destroy the DMCA and copyright laws

  • Nathan Chisholm
    Nathan Chisholm 28 дней назад

    Welcome today's soft generation! Absolutely pathetic.I loved growing up in the 80s and 90s when ppl still had balls and didn't get all bent out off shape if someone said something that in today's world would be regarded as "hurtful" Grow some balls.....

  • Michael Leahy
    Michael Leahy 28 дней назад

    yes so right about that

  • streamdungeon
    streamdungeon 28 дней назад

    I found out I had a sub on The Verge. Not anymore.

  • HiltownJoe
    HiltownJoe 29 дней назад

    When it comes to DMCA takedown notices Google is rightfully scared. Not because some advertiser crab but because of liability. They are legally required to take videos down, and when they don't they loose their protection under the DMCA Safe Harbour and could be sued by the copyright holder costing them a crapload of money. So whenever RU-clip says we do not take down videos and issue strikes they open themselves for legal action if their assessment was wrong or even just slightly questionable. If they just follow protocol and do nothing against the DMCA abuse they are safe. The fault here is not evil youtube but the DMCA that is layed out in a way that it really disicentivises platforms to make asessments about the validity of claims.

  • Edward Ratliff
    Edward Ratliff 29 дней назад

    Is this what Linus was talking about in his video about drama? I had no idea what he was talking about.

  • neji hiashi
    neji hiashi 29 дней назад

    where is kyle channel so i can subscribe to him?

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      AL1V3 26 дней назад


  • JesseJhon Andrews
    JesseJhon Andrews 29 дней назад

    you lied you said no editing and you edited the video

  • Dan Vitale
    Dan Vitale 29 дней назад

    FYI Kyle got his Copyright Strike revoked. He's back up and running.

  • Alpejohn
    Alpejohn 29 дней назад

    Well, im done with The Verge, i used to watch mobile reviews from them, but they are dead to me now.
    I thought they where a serious thing.. But i was wrong.

  • Dirga Herdian
    Dirga Herdian 29 дней назад

    kill it!!

  • Ian Gunsolley
    Ian Gunsolley 29 дней назад

    Two things stand out to me watching this unfold
    First, it truly spotlights the folly of many people who put their faith in private entities (companies, corporations, private businesses, whatever)over government, believing business will protect personal rights. They will not. They do not. They are not accountable to you, you are not their constituency. Hopefully RU-clip indifference towards creators will drive that home.
    Second, agreeing with detractors and proudly proclaiming that you aren’t a journalist isn’t just stupid, it’s dangerous. It’s participating in the destruction of your rights and privileges, the very freedoms of speech you are trying to protect. Limiting what defines someone as being a journalist and thus who is protected is the work of authoritarians, and neither your accusers nor you should allow reductions on what constitutes journalism.

  • roth66ro
    roth66ro 29 дней назад +1

    Problem with youtube is that it's a company made for other companies. And it's very afraid of what other companies say about RU-clip, and it's not afraid AT ALL about what people (the user base) think; because the users are just sheeple which are supposed to watch whatever bullshit the corporations are posting. The opinion of the people DOES NOT MATTER. Why? because RU-clip is a monopoly, there is no alternative - so we should sit quietly and wait for the next informative video from Verge or VICE. I've been barking in vain saying that creating Information Monopolies - like Google and RU-clip it's a very bad thing. But people like to congregate, they like using the same product as their peers, because of fear of being left behind. So in the end I don't think it's RU-clip's fault, but their users being too lazy to look for or to create alternatives.

    • Cata Lina
      Cata Lina 29 дней назад

      You are so wright man! Let's find alternatives, let's not congregate like sheeps around big companies like youtube, google or facebook.

  • Derek D
    Derek D 29 дней назад

    Kyle needs to lawyer up dude, period.

  • BrownEyesToxicDragon
    BrownEyesToxicDragon 29 дней назад

    Domestically no, only Americans have free speech. And even then, it doesn't excuse what those Verge losers did.

  • Aurjay
    Aurjay 29 дней назад

    HOLY FUCK TECH CHANNELS! ALL of you assholes need to stop with the drama bullshit. You let drama queens do the drama shows, like Rich from ReviewTechUSA who does NOTHING on Tech. I am looking for a new tech channel as I unsubbed from all of the ones I did follow because every single fucking one of them started in with drama stuff, and not just this damn copyright strike issue bullshit. STICK TO TECH!

  • Roger L. Ortiz
    Roger L. Ortiz 29 дней назад

    It is happening! A childish cyberwar !

  • Mustafa Adeel
    Mustafa Adeel 29 дней назад

    This was just a frivilous move as now as a company they are gonna have to again face criticism for copyright triking Kyle and are gonna be regarded negatively

  • b888
    b888 29 дней назад

    h3h3 is a racist asshat. Can't compare Kyle, even Lyle to that toxic hypocritical snake, lost all respect to that guy.

  • b888
    b888 29 дней назад


  • Sean C.
    Sean C. 29 дней назад

    Haha! The Verge guy that looks like Steve Urkel and built the shit gaming PC'S name was Stephan?
    Wasn't _Stephan_ Steve Urkel's pimp daddy alter ego?

  • Alan Burns
    Alan Burns 29 дней назад

    I thought the strike was dropped?

  • DesignIt
    DesignIt 29 дней назад

    I'm glad to see you're on good terms with Linus.

  • EvilKabuki
    EvilKabuki 29 дней назад

    You mentioned you have given strikes before. One would think people in positions like yours would welcome reaction videos or whatever gets videos strikes.a differing point of view often leads to new things going discovered.

  • TheDagnarmet
    TheDagnarmet 29 дней назад


  • roman2011
    roman2011 29 дней назад

    I dont get it. Why then just strike verge videos if there’s no repercussion?

  • Bmac08
    Bmac08 29 дней назад

    Let’s all go give the verge strikes!! 😂😂

  • Bmac08
    Bmac08 29 дней назад

    Screw the verge they are nothing but a bunch of fools

  • moral panic
    moral panic Месяц назад

    The verge has suxd for a long time stopped listening to that bilge years ago

  • klystron2010
    klystron2010 Месяц назад

    Jayz isn't a journalist because he knows how to code.

  • Randall Nickerson
    Randall Nickerson Месяц назад

    The real issue is the DMCA itself. Particularly the "safe-harbor" clause. As I understand it (and I'm not a copyright lawyer) the DMCA's safe-harbor protects OSPs like RU-clip from liability issues that result from the activity of their users. So if I upload and attempt to monetize a video that infringes upon someone else's copyright then RU-clip is exempt from responsibility provided - and this is the core of the issue - that they adhere to the safe-harbor rules which specify "upon notification of claimed infringement as described in paragraph (3), responds expeditiously to remove, or disable access to, the material that is claimed to be infringing or to be the subject of infringing activity." The word expeditiously is key here. Basically if RU-clip doesn't respond quickly enough they can no longer claim safe-harbor protection and can be liable for the infringement and be sued out of existence - literally. Safe-harbor prioritizes the response of the OSPs over the validity of the claim itself. It essentially adopts the idea that OSPs must assume guilt and demand innocence be proven.
    Given this environment, could RU-clip staff enough people to review every takedown claim before they take action, and do that quickly enough to ensure they retain safe-harbor protection? Would it be financially feasible? I don't know, and neither do many of us. I personally believe they could do more, sure, but it might not be cost effective from their perspective. That's understandable, but it sucks for content creators who are drastically impacted by the wording and expectations set forth by such bad legislation like the DMCA. It's a very complicated situation.
    The OCILLA/safe-harbor section of the DMCA: www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/17/512

  • lexzbuddy
    lexzbuddy Месяц назад

    I'm curious, how do people claim something? Why can't you just claim it yourself the day you release it, wouldn't that work? Excuse my ignorance, I don't understand any of this.

  • Dario D'Aversa
    Dario D'Aversa Месяц назад

    Amen for this video. 100% accurate. The Verge is nothing more than a shitty spam site that will trade their soul for a dime. This is what’s going on, nothing more, nothing less.

  • Dylan Richards
    Dylan Richards Месяц назад

    The Verge can go to hell.

  • Uzias Lara
    Uzias Lara Месяц назад

    Did they think that claim would go well? Even if they "won," the community would grill them for it.

  • TheFamilyDogs
    TheFamilyDogs Месяц назад

    Has anybody thought to extend their lawsuit to RU-clip to end this broken system?

  • Dobermanator
    Dobermanator Месяц назад

    I wonder if this video will get taken down?

  • What I do with free time
    What I do with free time Месяц назад


  • Dwarf19864
    Dwarf19864 Месяц назад

    Our lord and saviour PewDiePie could easily change this... If he just asked hes 80 million 9'y old's to randomly copystrike 2 videos per day... that would be 160 million videos on monday, 320 million on tuesday, 480 million on wednesday, 640 million on thursday, 800 million on friday... aaand i think youtube would shutdown the whole copyright strike thing before week end :)

  • nauxsi
    nauxsi Месяц назад

    This is the problem with automated digital platforms. There is no human interaction. By the time a person gets assigned it, it can many weeks/months later. Content creators are the guys/gals who make the platform what it is. At some point RU-clip will be cemented and tell you all to go take a hike. It's time to diversify.
    I get the whole copyright thing, there are some people who steal other peoples videos and upload them under their own accounts. Which isn't right.

  • Kris Wingert
    Kris Wingert Месяц назад

    I get claims for 3 seconds of music that you can barely even here and were at a public event where I was recording at. I know others that use entire songs, at full volume, and they never get the claim. I even have my channel labeled as educational.

  • exclusively historical gaming
    exclusively historical gaming Месяц назад

    The copyright system is broken.

  • CatNact
    CatNact Месяц назад

    Not sorry to say but sometimes retaliation is the solution to force RU-clip to address the issue.

  • Warren Puckett
    Warren Puckett Месяц назад

    Well maybe this one of types of companies that hire degree IT mangers that don't know to put the monitor, keyboard, PC and printer together. Then connect it to the network they were hired to monitor. Why, because all they have ever used is a Apple. ???? So I guess having one of them plan, assemble and load a PC would be exactly what Verge did. BTW the 1st computer I worked on had magnetic core memory, but without a degree in computer management, I can't design and assemble a NOS and it's stations or even manage one.

  • danickyg
    danickyg Месяц назад +1

    I did what everyone should do! Unsubscribe from the Verge!

  • Fly Beep
    Fly Beep Месяц назад


  • Balla21
    Balla21 Месяц назад

    If the claim us found to be deliberately frivolous. The strike repercussions get reverted to the accusers channel 2fold

  • Beefalo Bart
    Beefalo Bart Месяц назад

    Welcome to the new world. The idiot who cries the loudest wins. Doesn't matter if they are right or not.

  • W J
    W J Месяц назад

    Time to leave RU-clip en masse...

  • furzkram
    furzkram Месяц назад

    Why don't you say it how it is - RU-clip has NO mechanism to validate.

  • ObjDriven
    ObjDriven Месяц назад

    Before this I had never heard of the verge. Wish I still didn't know of the verge what a joke! Also I don't think RU-clip will ever do anything about this stuff unless they get taken to court and even then it's Google I'm sure they would find some way to get out of it.

  • goatee01
    goatee01 Месяц назад

    People need to realize that Alphabet/Google/RU-clip is a private company. You have no rights outside of what is in their terms of service.

  • MrAndi1281
    MrAndi1281 Месяц назад

    In my Opinion Article 13 is way worse than that! Could you make a video about that?

  • InSaNiTY_T
    InSaNiTY_T Месяц назад

    jay : says no edit

    editors : dont hear him adds music in the background
    jay : wtf guys.........