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My G🌎D, What Have We Done? (Dowd: 2022)

  • Published on Jan 25, 2022
  • This is a photo-rich video narration of Rev. Michael Dowd's January 27, 2022 Article for ProgressingSpirit.com, titled, "My GOD, What Have We Done". Available here in text: progressingspirit.com/2022/01...
    PDF: thegreatstory.org/dowd-my-god...

Comments • 204

  • John Tresemer
    John Tresemer 3 months ago +18

    I wonder what per centage of humanity “gets” this? So rare to hear anyone addressing it so clearly and maturely.

    • thegreatstory
      thegreatstory  3 months ago +4

      Less than one percent, for sure! I recommend the videos at the top of this page: postdoom.com/resources/

  • Jimmy's Old Time Radio Show
    Jimmy's Old Time Radio Show 3 months ago +32

    I recall with clarity how 50 years ago, when I was just a small child untethered in the backseat of my parent's car, we drove behind a truck, its clouds of black exhaust swirling in the air. I asked mom and dad, where does that smoke go? "It just disappears", their answer.
    Thank you for this excellent narration, love the channel. Peace.

    • Gary Hoover
      Gary Hoover 3 months ago +1

      @tragic events oh, wow! I just got that! Coolio! 😊😅

    • Russ Taylor
      Russ Taylor 3 months ago +3

      Similar to 'throw it away'... Where's away?

    • Olivia Chipperfield
      Olivia Chipperfield 3 months ago +2

      Omg I asked the same question as a youngster, and got the exact same answer!

    • tragic events
      tragic events 3 months ago +2

      @Gary Hoover I was moved by what you wrote. Thanks. So I've changed my You tube name 😄😉

    • Gary Hoover
      Gary Hoover 3 months ago +7

      Yes, this is “biophilia” - we are all actually deeply and madly in love with all of the living things that make up the larger body of life that we are a part of. I have had this experience from childhood as well, along with the growing fear and grief associated with the knowledge that we are destroying Earth. This awareness has been despised and dismissed or co-opted and corrupted by our culture all along. Sometimes we really lose that awareness, but for myself it is never fully gone and if I stay still a minute and breathe I find it to be very powerful still.

  • veganforlife
    veganforlife 3 months ago +20

    Michael dowd - wise and insightful. your words are comforting and a place to rest for a while amid the chaos and mayhem.

    • thegreatstory
      thegreatstory  3 months ago +4

      Wow, thanks for this beautiful (moving) comment, brother!

  • Etyere Petyere
    Etyere Petyere 3 months ago +20

    - When the Music's Over -
    "What have they done to the earth, yeah?
    What have they done to our fair sister?
    Ravaged and plundered and ripped her and bit her
    Stuck her with knives in the side of the dawn and
    Tied her with fences and dragged her down
    I hear a very gentle sound
    With your ear down to the ground
    We want the world and we want it (we want the world and we want it!)
    Persian night, babe
    See the light, babe
    Save us
    Save us!
    So when the music's over
    When the music's over, yeah
    When the music's over
    Turn out the lights
    Turn out the lights
    Turn out the lights"
    - The Doors

    • counselthyself
      counselthyself 3 months ago +1

      @Gary Hoover ... or are willing to admit.
      Ephesians 5:11 And do not have fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather even expose them.

    • counselthyself
      counselthyself 3 months ago +1

      @Gary Hoover there's more intent than most are aware of.

    • Gary Hoover
      Gary Hoover 3 months ago +1

      One of my favorite Doors songs. I felt this deeply growing up, this kinship with earth and this awareness that we have collectively been crucifying earth - sometimes stupidly and un-knowing, sometimes it seems with cruel intent. What a cry of lamentation this song was and is!

    • counselthyself
      counselthyself 3 months ago +1

      @thegreatstory and of course that needs to be juxtaposed by those that look outward and pursue temporal power.
      I met a traveller from an antique land
      Who said: "Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
      Stand in the desert. Near them, on the sand,
      Half sunk, a shattered visage lies, whose frown,
      And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command,
      Tell that its sculptor well those passions read
      Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things,
      The hand that mocked them and the heart that fed:
      And on the pedestal these words appear:
      "My name is Ozymandias, king of kings;
      Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!"
      Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
      Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare
      The lone and level sands stretch far away."
      - Percy Shelley's "Ozymandias"

    • counselthyself
      counselthyself 3 months ago +3

      @thegreatstory i posted that under a different comment, and then i found it all in one as it's the end of the poem. the longer quote, for me, is christianity/buddhism/advaita/daoism/the marriage of psyche and eros/the ankh. same message, different 'languages'.
      “Or music heard so deeply
      That it is not heard at all, but you are the music
      While the music lasts.”
      ― T S Eliot, Four Quartets

  • Christina Gusek
    Christina Gusek 3 months ago +9

    Thank you Michael. I find myself trapped in the depressed and angry phase. Listening to your kind and honest words have been helping me in this inevitable journey towards the end.

  • Dwayne Custer
    Dwayne Custer 3 months ago +14

    Hello Michael. If you happen to read this comment, I wanted to let you know that I referred your name and work to my graduate school dean. I think you would make an amazing key speaker for one of our biannual seminars. I hope she reaches out to you to gauge your interest. Thank you for your work!

    • thegreatstory
      thegreatstory  3 months ago +1

      Thanks, Dwayne! More along similar lines here: postdoom.com/resources/

  • Regan Parenton
    Regan Parenton 3 months ago +5

    Michael is the man. This publish should be watched by everyone on planet Earth.

  • J M
    J M 3 months ago +5

    Powerful words and message. Thank you for posting on your youtube so we could hear it. Take care.

  • Ryan Bachman
    Ryan Bachman 3 months ago +2

    Thank you Michael for all of your videos. Some days I really can feel grateful to just have this experience and taste the acceptance of post doom.. other days I find my anxiety creeping in about how I'm going to provide for myself, in a way that is in service to life as much as possible and it just seems like the options are so limited. I take living in service to life very seriously and it can be really alienating with respect to our normal culture. But I'm so grateful to have found you and many of the people you talk with and hope that I can offer others a taste of what that acceptance looks like

    • ghostsofevolution
      ghostsofevolution 3 months ago +1

      Hi Ryan - I am Michael Dowd's wife and videographer. But I also have my own path of post-doom volunteerism that perhaps you might want to consider. Almost all our native trees (except the ones that have plumed seeds for wind dispersal) are going to need help migrating poleward. This applies even to the the species that already have vast latitudinal ranges - as foresters have ascertained that populations of the same species have different adaptations for climate, depending on where they are located. So even populations of trees need help moving several hundred miles north of where they currently are. I have posted over the years a great number of videos on youtube providing the science background and advocacy for moving different species of trees poleward. Google this phrase and it will get you to the webpage that lists and links them all: "Climate, Trees, and Legacy - The Great Story"

  • Mis chevious
    Mis chevious 3 months ago +2

    I thank you Michael for your affirmation of my own interpretation of our relationship with this amazing living world.
    There are a couple of things causing my brow to furrow here though. One only a general observation that may or may not be correct.. and not that I can’t relate if it is but.. After listening to several of these conversations, there seems to still be an awful lot of pre-doom bargaining still going on. It’s counter productive when one is past that stage.
    The other thing furrowing my brow is the absolute homocentric nature of the conversations.
    We’re destroying the only life supporting system that we’re aware of in the entire galaxy. All life that is, is here. And we’ve broken the fundamental systems that make the larger system work. I hear that not even the tardigrades are expected to survive us now.
    If any life on Earth is to survive then we have much work to do and now, as quickly as possible.
    I’m a grower, well studied in reforestation and regenerative methods now and well versed with animals as well. I’ve just devoted my life to this cause and moved 1,200 miles to a more appropriate latitude so I can start rebuilding ecosystems and helping some of our best fruit and nut trees to make that necessary migration. But I just had the rug pulled out from under me. There will be no land for me. I’m to put my shackles back on and get my rear end back on the capitalist treadmill. Looks like for the rest of my days and I am now beside myself that I am unable to get to work on what really matters- life on Earth! My soul screaming out in silent anguish because there’s literally nothing I can do to put my skills and talents to work for the greater good now.
    And all I’m hearing from this community that I think is supposed to understand what’s happening, is me me me, us us us.
    Since our existence is causing all this death, I’d just like to know when.. if,
    it stops being all about us.

    • thegreatstory
      thegreatstory  3 months ago +1

      Thanks. A few quickie responses: (1) Yes, seemed to be still some bargaining in the hearts and minds (and speech) of a fair number of my post-doom conversation partners. The only reason my brow didn't (and still doesn't) furrow over that fact is that my sense is that's inevitable. (2) Yes, I'm guessing way more than half of my conversation partners are still largely anthropocentric in their orientation. Obviously, I try to encourage folk to adopt a more ecocentric / kincentric orientation, but, again, given that we live in such an insanely ecocidal civilization, I'm not surprised. (Indeed, I think I would be surprised if that wasn't the case.) (3) Guy is clueless about tardigrades. All they need to do is survive in a few places on Earth and in another 10-20 million years they'll be all around the globe again. Moss, ferns, jellyfish, and others will make it through the bottleneck, I'm guessing. But, yes, most mammals, vertebrates, forests and trees are likely to be lost. And, yes, it's heartbreaking! (4) Your everything you wrote after, "I'm a grower..." is SO heartful and important that I'll love to speak with you live. Please reach out to me. And please join us here: postdoom.com/discussions/

  • Magnus Homestead
    Magnus Homestead 3 months ago +2

    Thank you Michael for this beautiful expression of the Sacred, presented with humility and a great depth of understanding of our present situation here in the Garden. Blessings my friend, Magnus.

  • Jim Hollister
    Jim Hollister 3 months ago +2

    Thanks Michael. I hope to connect with the post-doom conversation after my current commitments (at same time) end in a couple months). Blessings!

  • Anand H. S.
    Anand H. S. 3 months ago +3

    Interesting. In my case, I understood our predicament quite quickly, and I was utterly shocked. I would definitely consider ‘Shock’ in the “stages of grief”.

  • tragic events
    tragic events 3 months ago +3

    Bless you Michael for your continued immensely helpful contributions

  • Philip Stone
    Philip Stone 3 months ago

    Just overwhelmingly amazing !!! Great writing, great thinking, and great delivery.

  • RD Lewis
    RD Lewis 3 months ago

    I hope to hear more from you this year. Thank you for your always insightful and cogent broadcasts.

  • hpqz hpqz
    hpqz hpqz 3 months ago +2

    I try to take the lesson from my dear canine companion. My brother whom I hold in deep respect and gratitude, my fellow traveller. There is this present moment. All else is swept along in confused invention. Be in solitude. Breathe.

  • John Tresemer
    John Tresemer 3 months ago +2

    Wow, so powerfully true. Thank you.

  • Living in the Time of Dying

    Thank you Michael. 🙏🏼

  • Gregory M Egbert
    Gregory M Egbert 3 months ago

    I keep grouping for expressing what is taking place right now succinctly, clearly, deeply, and here it , it's a great comfort to here these truths so we'll expressed

  • John Lok
    John Lok 3 months ago +3

    Michael, I really enjoy your videos and the literature you recommend, except for your defence of religion. Surely religion is one of the major causes of Overshoot. The Protestant 'work ethic' just one of many examples. I know you have been studying for nine years, but you might have missed John Mackie's The Miracle of Theism, especially the chapter on The Problem of Evil. I just hope that the surviving Homo sapiens will put religion aside and opt for reason.

    • thegreatstory
      thegreatstory  3 months ago +2

      Anthropocentric religion is absolutely the #1 major cause of overshoot. Ecocentric religions (indigenous life-ways) are THE ONLY thing that has historically been able to ensure that the future is not compromised by the present. Read Goldsmith! Do *carefully* watch this video, please: "Sustainability 101: Indigenuity Is Not Optional": ru-clip.com/video/bCZqpdOM8sg/video.html This one, too, addresses this in some depth: "GOD - Owning Our Error, Accepting Our Fate": ru-clip.com/video/DEDvM8Agmw4/video.html

  • Karl Héðinn
    Karl Héðinn 3 months ago +2

    Thanks Michael. Great work

  • Charles Bull
    Charles Bull 3 months ago +1

    Excellent! Thank you Michael!!

  • Planet Vegan
    Planet Vegan 3 months ago +6

    My G🌍D, what are we choosing to continue doing?

    • Planet Vegan
      Planet Vegan 3 months ago +1

      Agree. G🌏D exists within the individual, not the society. The power of human conditioning distracts us from the fundamental truths G🌎D is trying to show us. We must go out of our way to achieve self-actualization. This challenge exists regardless of the time and place you are born into.

    • thegreatstory
      thegreatstory  3 months ago +3

      Societies and civilization have no choice. Individuals do. Homo colossus doesn't.

  • Jacob Smith
    Jacob Smith 3 months ago +11

    Do you have any advice for a sixteen year old who is collapse aware? Should I bother going to college or not? I assume that things will continue getting worse slowly, humanity being pulled inch by inch over a long ten mile long road, the end of which is the near extinction or complete extinction of our species, but I don't know how far along that road we are.
    I certainly don't want to starve during food shortages or be drafted for resource wars. So I should start prepping by buying food and other necessities in bulk or just live life normally?

    • ghostsofevolution
      ghostsofevolution 3 months ago +3

      Jacob - My reply is going to sound a little weird. But on one of Dowd's Post-Doom Conversations vids, he interviews Rory Varrato, who was an intellectual from the get-go in a collapsing Pennsylvania coal town. He declares that because is sees doom, yet because he loves to learn and to contribute what he can, he is going all the way through a PhD program, accumulating outrageous college debt, because he doesn't believe he will have to spend a lifetime working it off. Life won't last that long - or at least this civilization won't. (I just read this aloud to Dowd and he laughed with gratitude.)

    • Mikea
      Mikea 3 months ago +4

      I'm a 20-something in grad school for mental health counseling, and wrestling with similar questions. On one hand, I worry about whether my time would be better focused on building survival skills. On the other, I think counseling skills I am building will be a vital gift to the world in the times ahead. And like you said, we don't know the timeline. There's no easy answer, really.

    • Karl Héðinn
      Karl Héðinn 3 months ago +2

      I would also recommend meditation, to ease anxiety and get inspiration. You might be able to pick up on what you should do. That's been my experience

  • Steve Jones
    Steve Jones 3 months ago +1

    Excellent!!!! Thank you

  • Graham Luell
    Graham Luell 3 months ago +2

    A gem!

  • Robert Cox
    Robert Cox 3 months ago +2

    I recall a Jewish custom of writing "G_d," and so your idea of the earth imoji is viable, although I imagine not using "that G-word" at all. Has that passed into the end of Anthropocene, as well? I was born into a Catholic family, but I have shopped around all my 70 years, and it seems I'm an "Urban Hermit" who can't quite put up with the social scene, even with a sociable philosophy, seeing the benefits and rules of living in a society. I did the Unitarian Church experiment here in Montreal, but kept moving through Buddhism and a reconnection with Bahai and thus to a determined "non-Christian" outlook. I know that "normal" society in the West still considers Christianity a "proper" ideal, but it sure gets abused! My question became, "Who needs a Messiah"? Biblical tradition "supposes" prophecies "demanding" a Messiah to "save us all", with some (almost mechanical) Redemption. It's all a nice pre-occupation in the face of immanent DEATH. But heaven awaits for those "needing" a safe harbor to bear the tsunamis of fate. Maybe no Messiahs, no Redemption, No heaven. It's just us here, screwing it all up. I would prefer a new name for something, anything that is NOT the classical idea of any "GOD" at all. Gaia is nice. Nature's pretty good, maybe simple old Good (Earth and Moon emojis?). Thanks for the thinking...

  • Gary Hoover
    Gary Hoover 3 months ago +4

    Thank you for this, Michael.
    And so the floodgates will open.
    There is so much pain, grief, anger and confusion around this question you have asked.
    We all need to have these deep conversations.
    We all need to be willing to be fully present for each other.
    I was listening to Thich Nhat Hahn speak about the necessity of returning to the breath, especially when we are upset or angry or afraid.
    We all need that in every moment.
    This is a liminal time.
    He also spoke about how we must practice deep listening and deep looking.
    We must take time to be fully present with each other and to listen and to say:
    “I am here for you.”
    “I know you are suffering”
    “I do not want you to suffer.”
    “I am here for you.”
    Imagine if we all - and all of our leaders - began with these commitments and sustained them in every moment of every day in every conversation.
    I expect we will witness much anger and grief, much blaming and shaming, but also the opportunity for many people to engage in this essential conversation and come to understanding, forgiveness, radical acceptance and commitment to continuing compassion.
    Fear left unchecked turns us into terrorists.
    Only love casts out fear.
    We need complete compassionate engagement now.
    We are all together being asked to leave fear, exclusion, indifference, and violence.
    We are all together being asked to move into love, inclusion, empathy, and peace.
    May we turn to Love.
    May it be so.

    • counselthyself
      counselthyself 3 months ago +1

      “We shall not cease from exploration
      And the end of all our exploring
      Will be to arrive where we started
      And know the place for the first time.
      Through the unknown, remembered gate
      When the last of earth left to discover
      Is that which was the beginning;
      At the source of the longest river
      The voice of the hidden waterfall
      And the children in the apple-tree
      Not known, because not looked for
      But heard, half-heard, in the stillness
      Between two waves of the sea.
      Quick now, here, now, always-
      A condition of complete simplicity
      (Costing not less than everything)
      And all shall be well and
      All manner of thing shall be well
      When the tongues of flames are in-folded
      Into the crowned knot of fire
      And the fire and the rose are one.”
      ― T.S. Eliot, Four Quartets

    • thegreatstory
      thegreatstory  3 months ago +1

      Thanks, brother Gary!

  • Ron Masters
    Ron Masters 3 months ago +3

    1) Dynamite, resonant photography-Like the Feng-English Tao Te Ching. 2) “compost theology”, appropriately and hilariously lower case. 3) Such a good epitome. 4) Like Leo Kottke owed Pamela Brown, I owe all my good times since 1979 to oil & gas exploration, and everything before & since to modern science. Damn it. 5) Not strong enough to transition to sustainability, expect Western Civilization will outlive me, by a few years at least. 6) I fear for my children & grandchildren, who may get blindsided, and won’t be receptive to the message. 7) Thanks for this. Maybe I need to call you next week.

    • Gary Hoover
      Gary Hoover 3 months ago

      Thank you for the comment, Ron. I just checked your RU-clip channel, and will revisit very soon. I’m a long-time cargo biker and pedicabber myself. Also appreciate the big picture perspective and the immediate relational holiness of this conversation. My own adult children get this all to some degree, but are too overwhelmed by it to think about it too much. Small steps, rest, and some big steps in awareness. I hope you make it back to the post doom conversations! Peace to you and yours, friend.

    • thegreatstory
      thegreatstory  3 months ago +1

      Yes, let's speak live via phone or Zoom, my friend!

    • ghostsofevolution
      ghostsofevolution 3 months ago +3

      Ron - I am Connie Barlow, Dowd's wife, and I was just scrolling through the comments and was attracted to read yours in full. Beautiful! Intrigued, I clicked on your youtube icon and then on your climate playlist. Seeing a doco on Paul Kingsnorth that you listed at the top, I clicked. So know that, Michael and I will be watching that doco tonight for our evening viewing - thanks to you!

  • Alfredo Reis Deus
    Alfredo Reis Deus 3 months ago +4

    Regarding Hiroshima and Nagasaki, a large portion of the Japanese population (specially the youth) believes the bombs were dropped by the Russians. If this doesn't draw the last drop of hope out of your head, nothing will.

  • kelly chartrand
    kelly chartrand 3 months ago +2

    There may be some emotional comfort exploring the numerous videos on near death experiences. It seems all we can do is do our best to prepare for our end. Arctic ice started melting in the 1950's. That was when we reached a tipping point for climate change. Reversing climate change would take as many resources as we have used in the last 70 years. Not possible to remove more than 40 billion tons of carbon PER YEAR until we have less than 300 parts per million carbon in the atmosphere.
    What have we done - yes. But what an achievement we have done. We have basically killed all higher life forms on earth, including ourselves, in roughly 250 years.

  • Graham Luell
    Graham Luell 3 months ago +2

    Oppenheimer: "Behold, I am destroyer of worlds."
    Pilot of plane that dropped Oppenheimer's nuclear bomb on Japan:"My God, what have we done?"

  • Hani Amrit Das
    Hani Amrit Das 3 months ago +2

    This is very beautiful and true. In order to take responsibility for the future, Christianity must accept responsibilty and indeed culpability for the damages resulting from doctrines of earth as the dominion of man. And acknowledge that the idea of a future "new heaven and new earth" ascending from the sky to replace this old and supposedly corrupt material world is very much behind the disregard for earth as our mother, nurturer, and home. Thank you for speaking the truth.

    • Hani Amrit Das
      Hani Amrit Das 3 months ago +1

      @thegreatstory ♥️

    • thegreatstory
      thegreatstory  3 months ago +3

      I agree with everything you've said here, Hani... Thank you!!

  • TennesseeJed
    TennesseeJed 3 months ago +4

    You and Guy McPherson need to collaborate on a video some day.

  • kelly chartrand
    kelly chartrand 3 months ago +4

    We are at the very edge of human extinction. We used to measure methane in parts per billion. Methane is now so abundant in the atmosphere that it is measured in parts per million. English scientist Peter Wadhams has excellent info on video . Look up on RU-clip. Bursts of methane, in billions of tons are possible at any time. Our extinction will quickly follow.

  • Benn Jamieson
    Benn Jamieson 3 months ago

    Hello Michael, you have mentioned in previous presentations that societies don't change course on the collapse trajectory. Could you let me know where/who you got this from? Thankyou.

  • Buddy Neher
    Buddy Neher 3 months ago

    The most likely order of Jesus' last words is this: #"Eloi, Eloi, lema sabachthani?" [Father, Father, why hast thou forsaken me?] (Matthew, Mark) #"It is finished," (John) #"Father, into your hands I commit my spirit!" (Luke) source: ReformedWiki

  • Ghost of Diogenes
    Ghost of Diogenes 3 months ago +2

    You could credit Professor Emeritus Guy McPherson, he's been screaming this from the rooftops for over a decade.
    Great video though. Thanks.


    I can tell you..what we have done! Bowed down to evil, became Cowards blaming those in charge!!
    Denying the truth, sellouts!!

  • Katherine T
    Katherine T 3 months ago +1

    I am wondering if I should just give up and live my life away from the stress of climate knowledge. I have been living my life as a homesteader, vegan, activist, member of our town Energy Committee and Climate Action group, preparing for the effects of increasing climate change, working towards living off grid, etc. This video makes me feel like it is all a waste of my efforts and we are doomed to extinction. On the other hand, how can I live joyfully if I have no hope for my children?

    • John B
      John B 3 months ago

      @thegreatstory *Know thy SELF !*
      *Understand the DIFFERENCE, between the human species, and "LIFE (The Real Self)" !*

    • thegreatstory
      thegreatstory  3 months ago

      @John B *Please enlighten us, oh wise one!* 🙂

    • John B
      John B 3 months ago

      *The purpose of the Earth (or human) experience, is NOT what humans think nor Imagine, but is for a completely different reason !*

    • Katherine T
      Katherine T 3 months ago +1

      @thegreatstory I will join the discussions and watch the videos. I just watched your talk with Stephen Jenkinson and it was amazing. I worked as a Hospice nurse so I can relate deeply to his words. Thank you for what you are doing.

    • thegreatstory
      thegreatstory  3 months ago +1

      Katherine, your comment and questions touched me deeply. I just read it aloud to my beloved, Connie, and it did her, too. I've been meaning to create a FAQ section on my "post-doom" website, where I record (in audio) my best and most heartful responses to the most frequently asked (and usually most important) questions I've received over the last half decade or longer. Your comment is like the first dollar a business makes and gets taped to the wall. I plan to print out and frame your question as a way of honoring the boot to the butt that got me to finally do what I've been meaning to do for several years. Please see here and join us on one or more Post Doom, No Gloom via zoom calls, so I can stay in touch with you! (I'd love to respond to you live!!) postdoom.com/discussions/ (I highly recommend the two videos on that page.) Thank you, dear one!

  • Steven Wolinak
    Steven Wolinak 3 months ago

    Wisdom !!!

  • marker113
    marker113 3 months ago

    What a man thinks of himself, that it is which determines, or rather indicates, his fate

  • John B
    John B 3 months ago

    *Here is one example of the word Spirit used in CONTEXT: Is it in the Spirit of the game ?*
    *So, like all things that have ever existed have a Spirit so TOO does a Game !*
    *This Example portrays perfectly, WHAT Spirit is... It is a full description or Record of anything....*

  • KW Norton
    KW Norton 3 months ago +2

    Yes, this is about right.

  • Steven Clark
    Steven Clark 3 months ago

    Mother of Everything

  • Wieger Wieger
    Wieger Wieger 3 months ago +1

    Looking for something post doom looks to me like not excepting and therefore not understanding it’s finality. It’s a proof of persistent anthropecentrism to me.
    Realy guys and girls, we experience a proces that is by us, but never about us.
    If you want some comfort: there is some in this being the 6th extinction. It is exceptionally hard to sterilize the earth of life. The sun has several billion more years of shining to do, all will begin again, if need be based on the simplist bacterium, buried in rock, hundreds of meters deep under your feet. (Yes, the extend of the biosphere is greater than you thought).

    • thegreatstory
      thegreatstory  3 months ago

      I agree with some of what you're said here, but you couldn't be further from the truth re post-doom. Post-doom (at least my brand of it) is thoroughly ecocentric. I recommend the two videos at the very top of this page: postdoom.com/resources/

  • jthadcast
    jthadcast 3 months ago

    the power of god brought us here to the exit slightly ahead of schedule ... clean up a little on your way out and you might make it.

  • Mentleman
    Mentleman 3 months ago +1

    is it important that we protect the environment? is it important that we continue as a species?

    • Karl Héðinn
      Karl Héðinn 3 months ago +2

      I think it is deeply tragic that we are destroying life and prospects for life on this world. I also think humans have the potential to treat the world and each other right, live sustainably with each other and our neighbours, environment.
      I think life is worth living, and a human life can be preatty great. So yes it is important, and most people value their lives and the lives of their kin. Forgive them for they do not know, if they truly knew, they wouldn't

    • Mentleman
      Mentleman 3 months ago +2

      @thegreatstory oh i'm well aware of our predicament regarding biosphere collapse, peak ressources, climate change, plastic pollution and so on, but i think it is very important to figure out our values both at an individual and a societal level to consider how to respond to the crises at hand. regardless of whether survival is possible, why should we care? even though we all have gut feelings about it, i find it vital to formalise them into arguments and value statements and see where they will/would lead us. that being said, what would you consider to be the answers to my two original questions? (on another note, i have greatly enjoyed your perspective so far. i found your channel when you posted "understanding our predicament". keep up the good work.)

    • thegreatstory
      thegreatstory  3 months ago

      The question at this point isn't whether something is important or not, it's whether it's possible or not. See the videos at the very top of this page: postdoom.com/resources/

  • Save Mowbray Park
    Save Mowbray Park 3 months ago +1

    The local council destroyed 7 sixty year old fig trees all for the widening of a road

  • tim ahlf
    tim ahlf 2 months ago

    God is responsible for every event that has happened on this earth, remember God created everything every human thought came from God where else could it come from.

  • johnny sparks
    johnny sparks 3 months ago

    I'm thinkin,
    Fate is in our hands up
    to a point, for the most part.
    Destiny is written on Stones.
    Choose well

  • 1stMemberEver
    1stMemberEver 3 months ago

    I think this goes back to Fermi paradox (Where are all other civilizations? Mathematically
    they should already be here). The simple solution is: all industrial civilization destroy themselves. It's inevitable, industrial civilization and habitable environment can't simply co-exist. This is because of economical growth and economical innovations. We are so children of the industrial civilization, we think those things are good. They are really, really bad thing for our survival.

  • Mike Harrington
    Mike Harrington 3 months ago +1

    Don't give me problems, give me solutions !!

    • thegreatstory
      thegreatstory  3 months ago +3

      Mike, you're joking, yes? Do you seriously not understand that predicaments have NO solutions, nor fixes? If this is news to you, I respectfully invite you to google "problems vs. predicaments" and see what you find. Here's a good place to start: problemspredicamentsandtechnology.blogspot.com/2020/12/welcome-to-problems-predicaments-and.html / AUDIOS HERE: soundcloud.com/michael-dowd-grace-limits/sets/erik-michaels-problems-predicaments-and-technology

  • southpole
    southpole 2 months ago

    In the alternative news just showed how many congressmen/women bought $millions$ shares in oil and energies a week before Russia went into Ukraine...
    The insane are running the last few years we have left so if at possible focus on family and friends walks in nature help allot as well....thanks for your hard work on all this...

  • Steven Clark
    Steven Clark 3 months ago +1

    Mother Earth is God

  • larz hillbot
    larz hillbot 3 months ago +1

    Yep My God what have we done

    • thegreatstory
      thegreatstory  3 months ago

      See here: ru-clip.com/video/bCZqpdOM8sg/video.html

  • Jimbob charles
    Jimbob charles 3 months ago

    G🌎D -dam what is he doing?
    Karma [ kahr-muh ]
    a confused amalgamation of mythology, superstition and anthropogenic consequences
    Sad, there really is a smart individual in there.

  • Gee Kay
    Gee Kay 2 months ago +1

    We were warned not to pick and eat that apple, but we didn't listen. We're naturally curious.

  • daryl sprake
    daryl sprake 3 months ago +8

    You as a christian should question your own religion which has given human dominion over the earth.all religions are anthapocentric .so religion is directly responsible for the mess we are in

    • counselthyself
      counselthyself 3 months ago

      there are more 'gnostics' kicking around than christians i'd suggest. salvation by works has walked side by side with salvation by grace in every religion. there are two ways to attempt to resolve duality: conquer the world or conquer yourself. there's an old testament and a new testament.
      John 8:58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.
      Luke 17:21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.

    • thegreatstory
      thegreatstory  3 months ago

      Daryl, all anthropocentric religions are contributing to ecocide; and yes, that includes christianity. But surely you know my eco-theo religious naturalist orientation by now, yes? If not, I suggest you start here: religious-naturalist-association.org/ and here: michaeldowd.org/ and here: postdoom.com/about/ and here: thegreatstory.org/michaeldowd.html

  • Graham Luell
    Graham Luell 3 months ago +1

    Ecocentric, not egocentric.

  • counselthyself
    counselthyself 3 months ago +1

    What have we done? we're trying to become god! it's a story of duality and non-duality, intellect, imagination, science and technologies, transhumanism, artificial intelligence, and the singularity. it's called salvation by works in the bible. turning the lead of matter into the gold of spirit - the great work, tikkun olam. transformation of the world, transcendence out of the polarized material world and the promise of immortality. through the duality of matter we're building a new unity, like god! the washington monument hasn't gone flacid, has it?

  • Jim Lyons
    Jim Lyons 3 months ago +1

    Michael, would you watch the documentary, “Kiss The Ground” and comment?

    • Jim Lyons
      Jim Lyons 3 months ago +1

      By the way, I want to thank you for the work you’ve done- it’s opened my eyes to the real gravity of our predicament.

    • Jim Lyons
      Jim Lyons 3 months ago +1

      I know there’s a lot more going on with exponential growth besides increased CO2 in our atmosphere, and it would take an extreme effort on the part of mankind to implement this level of change but looking, for example, at the work of David Johnson at Texas State Univ. changing our farming practices alone can significantly reduce CO2 levels through photosynthesis and carbon sequestration. Soil microbiology is key.

    • thegreatstory
      thegreatstory  3 months ago +1

      I did watch it. Loved it!!

  • Steven Clark
    Steven Clark 3 months ago

    Nature the universe

  • jim bob
    jim bob 3 months ago

    I wish they had of said No to mining in newcastle because then i wouldnt exist!

  • Big Gav 74
    Big Gav 74 3 months ago +4

    Nobody in the history of mankind has ever been able to demonstrate that there's a God. Not even once. David Silverman.
    Having said that, beautiful phrases, poetic. Nourishing philosophy. Love your videos. Cheers.

    • thegreatstory
      thegreatstory  3 months ago +3

      @NEAR TERM EXTINCTION - HUMAN I agree that we are a rationalizing animal, not a rational one. But you do know it's considered bad form, not to mention out of integrity, to criticize something you've not experienced, yes? I'm guessing you have no' idea what you're talking about, nor whom you are talking to. Welcome to the world of ecocentric religious naturalism: See here: religious-naturalist-association.org/ and: ru-clip.com/video/DEDvM8Agmw4/video.html Then, let's talk.

    • thegreatstory
      thegreatstory  3 months ago +6

      No society in the history of humankind has been able to avoid ecocide without relating to the biosphere AS IF it was divine -- that is, relating to our biophysical creator, sustainer, and end as a greater Thou, not a lesser it. Most theists and atheists are equally clueless ecologically. See here: "GOD - Owning Our Error, Accepting Our Fate" (M. Dowd): ru-clip.com/video/DEDvM8Agmw4/video.html

  • Steven Clark
    Steven Clark 3 months ago

    Hell 's gods are on the money.

  • Julio Trinidad Salazar
    Julio Trinidad Salazar 3 months ago


  • Steven Clark
    Steven Clark 3 months ago

    Nature is sacred,man is profaning her

  • Richard Monroe
    Richard Monroe 3 months ago +2

    End Times sure thing

  • Dan Watson
    Dan Watson 3 months ago

    Was willing to listen, and it sounded right, but you lost me when you started using the word “god” as a reference category.
    Couldn’t continue watching something that entertains the delusions of deities or spiritualism. Climate talk should not contain fantasy, or align with non factual or religious ideologies

  • Colin McKerlie
    Colin McKerlie 3 months ago

    To quote that most abused exclamation, "Oh My God!" What incredible and insane hypocrisy from someone who peddles the Christian religion. "Anthropocentrism" is a direct result of the Judeo/Christian/Muslim obscenity summed up in the belief that God gave man dominion over the earth and the animals and all of creation. - But wait, he never actually intended to criticise this obscenity. I'm not going to watch it to the end - I don't think I could cope with any rationalisation he might come up with to justify the first observation that he made that Indigenous people do not share anthropocentrism in their religious beliefs. But too late! He just said it. Disgusting. If you understand global warming you know there is no God. Grow up!

    • thegreatstory
      thegreatstory  3 months ago

      Colin, in the future, you might want to take a few minutes to google who you're about to trash. It would save you from publicly embarrassing yourself. :-) I suggest you start here: religious-naturalist-association.org/ and here: michaeldowd.org/ and here: postdoom.com/about/ and here: thegreatstory.org/michaeldowd.html

  • Zehra Jafri
    Zehra Jafri 3 months ago +1

    Human centeredness is greed. The Earth has been taking all kinds of destruction aimed at it and yet survive's. Trying all the methods available to bring back the ecosystem could work, especially if according to religious beliefs making amends for our sins and changing our way's, their's still hope.

    • thegreatstory
      thegreatstory  3 months ago +1

      No, greed is only one pernicious aspect of anthropocentrism. Human-centered religious piety is even more deadly.

  • Corben
    Corben 2 months ago +1

    Oh I think we know what we're doing; we just don't give a fuck.

  • Mark Young
    Mark Young 3 months ago

    I have been saying the last words of Jesus for many years. If only post doom conversations would have been cultural teachings many moons ago we nay have become a wiser more considerate species. Alas we still scoff, riddicule and berate all forms of environmentalism, as we have done for ever, we continue on our arms race towards our own oblivion and as you so eliquently stated we are past the point of saving ourselves let alone the 10 million other innocent species on Earth. Or as an economist would say "the apocholyps will be terror beyond imagination, but in the post apocholyptic period there will be ample opportunities for profits. Economists also never say the losses will be total, because they also invented receivership and administration facilities. Thy conviniently forget that assets can often be totally outstriped by debts and creditors. Currently we owe the Earth circa 10 BILLION human lives and the piper is marching unstopably to our door. ITEOTWAWKI.

  • ses717
    ses717 3 months ago

    Earth is NOT a globe… start there. “The wisdom of man is foolishness to God.”

    • thegreatstory
      thegreatstory  3 months ago +1

      You didn't actually watch this, correct? Just sayin...

  • Mike Toole
    Mike Toole 3 months ago

    you have to abandon "jesus" if you want to grow up

    • thegreatstory
      thegreatstory  3 months ago

      Mike, you do know it's considered "bad form" (not to mention "out of integrity") to comment on something you've not experienced, yes? Five minutes of research would have allowed you to not publicly embarrass yourself. Here, I'll make it easy for you... (1) religious-naturalist-association.org/ (2) michaeldowd.org/ (3) thegreatstory.org/michaeldowd.html (4) thegreatstory.org/future-as-judge-and-guide.pdf

  • Cheryl Anne
    Cheryl Anne 3 months ago

    We chose profit over well being; indigenous peoples know better.

    • thegreatstory
      thegreatstory  3 months ago

      Indeed! See: ru-clip.com/video/bCZqpdOM8sg/video.html

  • rick ricky
    rick ricky 3 months ago +2


    • Gary Hoover
      Gary Hoover 3 months ago

      I agree with you both, of course!
      My heart breaks somehow, but I am glad if that opens me to see and feel more deeply and to love more fully.
      But this is often difficult to hold and let go of….

    • thegreatstory
      thegreatstory  3 months ago +2

      Indeed. Or in my case, unsobering. When I first learned this stuff I had a serious relapse (I'm a recovering alcoholic).

  • Hydrogen is God
    Hydrogen is God 3 months ago +2

    Why do you pick and choose which scripture from the bible you believe? I ask because you always promote the model of Earth that a Vatican priest suggested

    • thegreatstory
      thegreatstory  3 months ago +2

      As my mentor, geologian and cultural historian (Catholic monk) said, "The universe itself, in its wholeness and diversity, is the primary expression of the divine, the primary scriptures."

    • Wieger Wieger
      Wieger Wieger 3 months ago

      All believers do, out of necessity.

  • Planet McHanic
    Planet McHanic 2 months ago

    They knew about all this way back in 1886 when the Royal Scientific secret society held a meeting of all the top scientists to determine the consequences of the industrial revolution. Musta been over 200 papers submitted by attendees. Several papers happened to point out that combustion engines would consume a lifetime of oxygen in 2 to 4 hours of operation and that making millions of these engines would cause atmospheric alterations that were unpredictable.
    They've known all along and now they're just milking the paperwork.
    Have you visited the Pacific coast lately? The ocean is dead dude.
    Maybe somebody aughta write a book about that. It's way to late to be writing or even reading any books. After all, books are what got us into this mess in the first place.

  • Ian Corral
    Ian Corral 3 months ago

    This isn’t really an argument so much as quoting a bunch of people. What you have to understand it that nature isn’t really a partner or friend but rather it is utterly indifferent to everything that happens. Whether everything lives or dies doesn’t matter, the only ones who care (oddly enough) are us.
    Also it’s been shown that the stages of grief isn’t a thing, people respond to it differently.

  • Spencer Royal
    Spencer Royal 3 months ago

    The fallen world will all burn 🔥 it is only a matter of time. Jesus Christ and a relationship with Him is what matters.