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  • Jalen Rose debates Mina Kimes and Laura Rutledge on why Michael Jordan should be considered the all-time best NBA player over LeBron James.
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  • dani titus
    dani titus Hour ago

    LBJ will never be on Kobe's level,let alone MJ's...

  • oriondx72
    oriondx72 8 hours ago

    seems to me people who think LeBron is the goat are people who never see mj play. all I gotta say what is LeBron record in the finals? its not even a debate!

  • #2BAnnounced Rollerblading

    These broads dumb as fuck

  • brandon ginyard
    brandon ginyard 10 hours ago

    Wow they really ask why did he leave to play baseball? Lolahahaha wow.. Just so u know they dont know why.. Do your Homework ladies..

  • Eric Phillips
    Eric Phillips 10 hours ago

    Are you kidding?? Lol Jordan won 6. It's not even for debate! Jordan best season he averaged 37.1 points per game!!! Are you crazy lol and 10 scoring titles. It's not even close don't disrespect MJ like that. The closest to average that was The goat Kobe Bryant with 35.4

  • Amine Williams
    Amine Williams 14 hours ago

    So if lebron is discounted for leaving Cleveland then so is KD let me ask y’all this who did Jordan beat better than KD

  • Mujien Jamalul
    Mujien Jamalul 16 hours ago

    This GM is a fucking mental midget.

  • Jack Pott
    Jack Pott Day ago +1

    LeBron da best stop all dis foolshines

  • Daníel Smári Magnússon

    I actually think the advanced metrics support the argument of MJ being the greatest ever. But whatever.

  • Xavier Rendon
    Xavier Rendon 2 days ago

    So are these advanced metrics and anayltics for ppl who try to justify how much they don't know the actual game of basketball or are they intended just to make dumbass arguments?

  • Raiden The Mortal
    Raiden The Mortal 2 days ago

    There are plenty of players better than Lebron James

  • Wayne Bishop
    Wayne Bishop 2 days ago

    Morey is drinking glue... MJ was the best, not even close.

  • Omer Jr. Sauve
    Omer Jr. Sauve 3 days ago

    Wow what a stupid question at the end by that blond dummy.

  • Omer Jr. Sauve
    Omer Jr. Sauve 3 days ago

    Yea Lebron is a GOAT alright..
    The goat of biatching at everything but him self . It's all your fault. Can't be me I'm Lebron James

  • HeirRose1
    HeirRose1 3 days ago

    The ladies on here are like mockingbirds repeating stuff they've been told

  • PuGGY
    PuGGY 4 days ago

    Girls doesn’t know shit about basketball they should leave the talking to guys when it comes to basketball

  • Master Spade
    Master Spade 4 days ago

    Going by their "Logic" of better numbers means better player, then Russell Westbrook is a Top 3 player Ever!!! Only he and the Big O' have ever averaged a Triple Double. Did Magic Johnson ever do that?? No.
    How many of you sane people would actually pick Westbrook over Magic.............??

    EXACTLY!!!! Fact is Jordan is the Greatest of All Time, and it isn't even Close.

  • Daniel Beavers
    Daniel Beavers 5 days ago

    Labron has had more help than anyone

  • darrell cosey
    darrell cosey 5 days ago

    White girl probably wasn't even born doing Jordan's era fuck out of here with that Lebron James the greatest garbage!!

  • Jeremy Haase
    Jeremy Haase 6 days ago

    Jalen with a tomahawk slam on these two

  • Laf
    Laf 6 days ago

    So they forgot about how Jordan was better statistically than lebron, winning a defensive player of the year and having to lead the nba in steals, also not to mention Jordan has more blocks than lebron even tho he’s 3 inches shorter. That’s the motherfucking numbers for you, fucking hate these two dumbass girls thinking they know every god damn thing

  • Heir Fang
    Heir Fang 8 days ago

    Women should be ostracized from speaking on sports. Not many women out there would be much more intellegent than this

  • Heir Fang
    Heir Fang 8 days ago

    I'll agree with other girl becuz girls have to be backed up

  • Danny Garcia
    Danny Garcia 8 days ago

    Im sorry...as pretty as they are (especially that "Asian looking" one) neither of them two honeys know shit about basketball.

  • Kool- aid
    Kool- aid 8 days ago

    Jalen you better preach MJ made a dynasty in Chicago,Lebron is always in search of,everyone says 6 rings is nothing but It proves MJ is a winner

  • len brian
    len brian 8 days ago

    Jordan played in an era of basketball that was WAY more brutal.When basketball was a mans game loaded with legit hall of famers MJ was thee man. Malone, Stockton, Barkley, Ewing, Miller are just some of the names that don't have rings because of MJ. There is no debate. Larry Bird was better than Lebron please. Defense in the NBA, in all pro sports, has been severely neutered. Offence sells, so defense is watered down. If you want to talk about Kobe vs Lebron, now you're comparing apples to apples. Lebron vs MJ is comparing apples to a unicorn.

  • AnthonyAnalog
    AnthonyAnalog 9 days ago

    Daryl Morey is an idiot.

  • Huyen Nguyen
    Huyen Nguyen 9 days ago

    The funny thing is that Jalen is talking about Jordan's ability to lead his team to victory that he didn't have to switch team for championships while LBJ had left his team for several times before he got his hand on the trophy and the host just responses "are we talking about who is staying the longest in one team?" =))))) LOL....I'm a girl also but I don't see how she comes up with such a dumb question =)))))

  • Printablebirthdayinvites dotcom

    I felt dumb listening to those women sheesh

    • len brian
      len brian 8 days ago

      forgive them, they're young. Anyone who's watched both Lebron and Jordan play, will tell you who's better. I had the privilege of watching both players and I can tell you MJ is worth 2 Lebron James'. The NBA they both play, and played in, are night and day. Flagrant 2's were the norm in MJ's NBA, no technical, no ejections, just a trip to the line or an inbound, thats it.

  • Oscar
    Oscar 12 days ago

    Lebron left to go to LA for his family and better opportunity

  • Quinn League
    Quinn League 12 days ago

    I hate when people say MJ better because championship he had Scottie pippen and Dennis Rodman Lebron in Cleveland before Miami had nobody

  • FlamingLips79
    FlamingLips79 13 days ago

    Tell both women to hush and go learn NBA history

  • Timothy D
    Timothy D 14 days ago

    Please have competent hosts who know their stats and details, and form an argument using that. Not just making random statements, whether it’s these two women or any one else

  • MikeyRockx
    MikeyRockx 14 days ago

    Them laughing over him makes me feel disgusted. MJ is The One. This topic here should not be discussed anymore.

  • Jayson Manzanilla
    Jayson Manzanilla 14 days ago

    Does that 2 pornhub chicks talking about basketball or the BALLS that MJ and Lebron have..?

  • Tony Frazier
    Tony Frazier 16 days ago +1

    This video should be called Jalen Rose vs two dumbasses.

  • Bidwellz9
    Bidwellz9 17 days ago

    now we know these chicks have never watched basketball before 2010 lol wow, michael jordan is GOAT, if it was about all those stat padded numbers lebron has then it would be kareem not jordan, but theres a reason we say jordan.....he made other teams lose hope.....lebron has never once in his career put that kind of mental fatigue on a team. make jordan mad and hes dropping 50, make lebron mad and well, hell lose then do an interview with a cast on lmaoooo

  • EJ Swavv
    EJ Swavv 18 days ago

    Lebron!! Goat 🐐 man Goat 🐐 man Yeah that’s you !!!

  • Sergio Navarro
    Sergio Navarro 19 days ago +1

    Airheads to the Max comparing Jordan to lebron super teams.

  • ChiHoney
    ChiHoney 19 days ago

    If the ladies are still not convinced, have them watch these two videos: ru-clip.com/video/3_R8z_wHbiA/video.html @ 38 seconds, even LeBron says that Michael Jordan is "The GOAT, Greatest of All Time". And, ru-clip.com/video/V3lgZcAmLFA/video.html This young man breaks down why MJ is the GOAT, in comparison to other players in the NBA. Including LeBron.

  • Sherwin Shabazz
    Sherwin Shabazz 20 days ago

    Two dumbass females with little knowledge of the history of the game!

  • Tyrell Murphy
    Tyrell Murphy 21 day ago +1

    Jalen have u lead the league in scoring

  • Maximos Tiberius
    Maximos Tiberius 22 days ago

    This is why I cant watch most women talk on sports shows. Let them talk about women's sports. I want to hear what Magic or Dominique or Stockton have to say. Guys who have played at a high level. Jalen Rose is great...hes for real and I know where hes coming from.

  • The Gaming Kitchen
    The Gaming Kitchen 24 days ago

    Haha why max talking off screen lol

  • Rafinha Latvezzi
    Rafinha Latvezzi 25 days ago

    You can’t compare Stats/Numbers bc:
    Jordan earned it against Lions and Tigers in the toughest era
    LeBron is still trying to catch up to Jordan playing against cubs in a weak era

  • Roger Edgerton
    Roger Edgerton 27 days ago

    Jalen Rose is one of the WORST so-called 'analysts' in the world. He's one of the top examples of the bullshit company line that best players should always make the playoffs and advance, which is utter bs. Put MJ on the worst team in the NBA, esp. in the West, and they don't make the playoffs. It's the same dumbass mentality that says a guy who avgd. 40/15/5BPG can't be mvp if his team doesn't make the playoffs despite him having only one other good player on his team.

  • Kishon Moore
    Kishon Moore 29 days ago

    Hit the kitchen women

  • Feridun Batuhan ZEREN

    You can not compare his Airness with a guy who call himself a king(actually he is more like a court jester with all his weird handshakes and stuff)

  • waone boyz
    waone boyz Month ago

    Never put Black Jesus and Lebron James in same Topic..

  • Mike Lewis
    Mike Lewis Month ago

    I will take the nba players opinion over a couple of woman who never played in the nba , he lleft the sport for 2 years and came back and won 3 straight titles. 6-0 in the finals compared to 3-6

  • Daniel Byrd
    Daniel Byrd Month ago

    The league cut them women a check to say that they clearly don’t know what they are saying

  • brian mabasa
    brian mabasa Month ago

    cmon this chick just wana suck lebron dick! thats all!!

  • LEX
    LEX Month ago

    When Lebron's career is over he will be the greatest! All these old NBA players and old NBA analyst get Jordan's nuts out of your mouth!

  • codee comah
    codee comah Month ago

    Who's number is LeBron James wearing... Exactly.

  • Carlito Baltazar
    Carlito Baltazar Month ago

    JALEN ROSE IS 100% RIGHT.

  • geminiwilliams037
    geminiwilliams037 Month ago

    First of all how the heck can he jump over the Black Mamba!? Are you guys on drugs or just memory deficient? Kobe is the next best thing to MJ period! He (they) have something LeBron James will never have and that's the killer mentality! They don't shy away from the game winning shot they actually demand it! Haven't seen that from LeBron James! Kyrie actually baled him out & took over the game while King James shrunk to the lonely I'm just a spectator at this moment! So ppl stop this disrespecting of The Black Mamba please it's so disconcerting!!

  • Andrew Burgess-Linden

    I have about 81 Reasons why Jalen is wrong about who the GOAT is.

  • Darrell Frances
    Darrell Frances Month ago

    & that guy that's talking i bet never played sports not jalen the other guy

  • Freedog13
    Freedog13 Month ago

    Lebron played in the weakest east of all time. If the east was anywhere near it normally is he might have 2 or 1 or no rings.

  • Sad
    Sad Month ago +1

    Sees

  • N M
    N M Month ago

    Just go back to the 90s when men knew how to talk basketball. Stupid girls, shut up. Does not even know why MJ played baseball.

  • N M
    N M Month ago

    When did idiotic women become experts on basketball?

  • N M
    N M Month ago

    Shut up Daryl. Ignorant clown.

  • dodgerfreak0834
    dodgerfreak0834 Month ago

    In their defense they are millennials that are to young to see how good MJ was

    • Sarang Desai
      Sarang Desai Month ago

      I mean not all millennials think LBJ'S the GOAT, now I didn't watch MJ live, but the tapes and highlights are just amazing. I don't think LBJ belongs in the same breath as MJ....

  • Scotty Donnell
    Scotty Donnell Month ago

    Softass Mfer !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 💯

  • Terry Jordan
    Terry Jordan Month ago

    The blonde is just being a blonde!

  • DC123777
    DC123777 Month ago

    Advanced Metrics show that Jordan > LeBron. So that argument is invalid.

  • Lone $tar OMG
    Lone $tar OMG Month ago

    Smh I love that no one could possibly be better than MJ.

  • p Plains
    p Plains Month ago

    The nba is better off without lebum

  • spacenut58
    spacenut58 Month ago

    Bill Russell.....11 Rings!

  • Grant Anderson
    Grant Anderson Month ago

    who the hell is mina kimes

  • cewezee 1
    cewezee 1 Month ago

    I wish i could call them ladies but they are stupid bitches for saying what they said.... It even makes me hate that woman are even talking about sports, they make me think they're ignorant airheads.

  • Thomas Dematteo
    Thomas Dematteo Month ago

    Two young women this proves maybe that women should not follow sports

  • Here's your ticket C

    Why we even listening to these 2 dumb bitches.? 🤷🏽‍♂️

  • MrKing8050
    MrKing8050 Month ago +2

    Why she laugh when Jalen said MJ left to deal a personal matter (fathers murder), show respect women

    • Johnny Martinez
      Johnny Martinez Month ago +1

      MrKing8050 because it shows she knows nothing about sports. She had no clue his father died.

  • Intensity Fit Club
    Intensity Fit Club Month ago

    Every player that played vs MJ, Kobe, and Lebron put them in that order for a reason. Last year a poll to NCAA coaches voted MJ the GOAT 82%, and this year the god damn current players even know MJ is better at 73%. Watch interviews of Vince Carter, Grant Hill, Shaq, and McGrady for example that all played vs these players and they all say MJ was just better that he was more dominant and can do it all

  • Aesir
    Aesir Month ago

    "why did he (michael) go play baseball?" dont even know the history of MJ and you wanna compare who is better you beautiful bitch

  • Stephon Taylor
    Stephon Taylor Month ago

    I know every L. James supporter hates when ppl bring up the rings but I'm sorry 3 is not good enough to be #1 of all time period. He has to at least get 2 more im sorry lol

  • Nietzsche316
    Nietzsche316 2 months ago

    Retarded ass females.

  • Too Busy
    Too Busy 2 months ago

    Daryl Morey & these 2 chics are morons! 😂 Tell them all Jalen. Lol

  • JOE SMITH
    JOE SMITH 2 months ago

    I thinks all this is fun and games to keep fans interested in basketball, as it no longer has a star the likes of Michael Jordan, what happened to the KOBE comparisons?

  • FaiisHD
    FaiisHD 2 months ago

    LeBron played 11 years with the cavaliers and had a real good all star twice, TWICE, 2 TIMES, Kyrie and Love got injured in 2015 doesnt count, 2016 they won , 2017 love was turning ass and Kyrie and LeBron lost to a 73-9 team plus KD lol like how does that even work he also lost to a veteran spurs team that had 3 veterans a star in kawhi lead by the best coach in history, lost to the mavericks bcuz the mavericks were simply better, the way the beat the shit out of Kobe was never talked about as well, people talk alot about LeBron quitting, so u down 15 with like 1mim left u are down 3-0, against a 4 all star team alone, what do u want him to do, and when they were about to win JR FUCKED it

  • Alex Fu
    Alex Fu 2 months ago

    The title of this video should have been called "2 Dumb Chicks Who Know Sh*t About Basketball". LeBron better than MJ?! Completely clueless!! They give female basketball fans a bad name!!

  • clifford tiamson
    clifford tiamson 2 months ago

    Ok so can now can everybody shut up about this on who’s the goat!!!! Jordan forever! thank you very much!

  • bootyslayer93
    bootyslayer93 2 months ago

    I dont understand what numbers they look at. Offensively and defensively jordans better. Oh lebron got more rebounds and assists? Have 1,000 more turnovers and less defensive win shares + no dpoy to go with that lol. The numbers argument is a complete sham especially when lebron fans exclude all the numbers that dont favor him, and while were at it jordan avged more offensive rebounds which are harder to get, what a joke. All the while teaming up with the likes of wade, irving, bosh, and love. Also played with 2 of the greatest 3 point shooters of all time in ray allen and kyle korver. The last 2 championships he won he was the only allstar on his team pippen or rodman werent all stars. Didnt all tne nba players just vote on the goat and like 75% said jordan and 12% said lebron? Lmao, yet this fat dope who has never hit a layup in his life says lebrons best. I mean at the end of the day its all matter of opinion but if your opinion isnt, "Jordan is the best player of all time." Then your opinion is wrong lol

  • ynot
    ynot 2 months ago +1

    These players play to win chips. That is the ultimate metric. There are always exceptions to the rule, but players like Kareem, Russell, Mike, Kobe definitely belong in the conversation. I think if LeBron can win 2 more chips, the debate will be real close.

  • studydoc
    studydoc 2 months ago

    There are a lot of smart and very sharp female sports analysts and anchors. Sadly not these two women. They are an insult to women in sports news. ill prepared and short sighted.

  • Bads Blackwolf
    Bads Blackwolf 2 months ago +1

    I would slap that gm back to space jam.😂

  • Duncan Winter
    Duncan Winter 2 months ago

    Daryl Morey just know how to play with his balls.

  • onetruthonelife
    onetruthonelife 2 months ago

    Jalen: "Ohh you millennials......"

  • James Gall
    James Gall 2 months ago

    So sick of people hating on MJ for playing baseball. I'm from Chicagoland, lived there my whole life... When Jordan's father went missing and was found murdered it was a huge story here. It really hurt Mike, obviously... Jordan senior was his hero. And his dad had always hoped his son would play baseball. So when he died Mike felt a need to try to honor his father's memory by aspiring to be that, a baseball pro. Maybe people don't realize that aspect of his transition in sports, but it's the truth... No one can argue that had he stayed in basketball he wouldn't have won 8 straight championships. Especially considering the 2 teams that won while he was away from the sport were teams that era Bulls dominated.

  • Stanley H
    Stanley H 2 months ago

    Top 5 players of All Times
    1.MJ
    2.Kobe
    3.Kareem
    4.Lebron
    5.Scottie Pippen

  • Jazaa Realty Group
    Jazaa Realty Group 2 months ago

    And then there was this year's debacle that put all those metrics to shit.

  • Let'sAllLove Lain
    Let'sAllLove Lain 2 months ago

    Funny how I only ever see effeminate millennials or literal women who've never played a competitive sport in their lives pick Lebron. While real men pick Jordan.

  • Chec Biazon
    Chec Biazon 2 months ago

    Typical Lebron fans. Those two millennial girls always saying number stats etc. Stupid! They don't even know why mj retired after his first three peat. His father was shot to death that's how he great is. Pls don't out any nonsense host to debate to this stuff. Jalen burn them. Facts!

  • clinton caple
    clinton caple 2 months ago

    I hate to bash women on sports but these 2 idiots give women a bad name because they are so monumentally uninformed on basketball

  • Craig Martin
    Craig Martin 2 months ago

    Woman debating about sports is cringeworthy. Hate saying it, butttt

  • Moreno12
    Moreno12 2 months ago

    But damn jalen really didn’t rep right. His arguments weren’t strong enough...

  • Montażownia nr1
    Montażownia nr1 2 months ago +1

    Blondie: "numbers"... ok, here we go:

    MJ vs LeBron
    This is a silly debate. Clearly Michael is better. It's not even a close one. But let's go to the facts. Updated after Lebrons 14th season. Michael Jordan has
    •3 more rings
    •3 more final mvps
    •1 more DPOY
    •1 more season MVP
    •9 more scoring titles
    •3 more steals leader
    •3 more all defensive team selections
    •4000 more points / bron moved past him in playoff points, but it took him longer lol.
    •800 more steals
    •Beat 20 50+ win teams in the playoffs (Lebron only defeated 10)
    •Jordan never averaged less than 40% Field Goal in the finals
    Lebron did it twice
    •6/6 (never allowed a game 7)
    •Lebron had much more help
    •Jordan never had a teammate averaged more than 22 points in the finals..
    Kyrie averaged over 28 and DWade averaged more than 26
    •MJ never ever had a finals meltdown like Lebron in 2011 against the Mavs
    •MJ had more points in the playoffs in less games..
    All of this accomplished in 13 seasons
    Lebron is in his 14th season still chasing the "ghost that played in Chicago"
    •Michael Jordan in the playoffs has put up atleast 40ppg, 5rpg, 5apg in 6 different playoff series. Along with an average of about 55% shooting, 3spg and 2bpg.
    (86 vs bos, 89 vs cavs, 90 vs philly, 92 vs Miami, 93 vs Phoenix, 88 vs cavs) Jordan won every one of those matchups except for the 1986 matchup vs the celtics.
    •Jordan in 88-89 averaged 32ppg, 8apg, 8rpg, 3spg off 54% shooting. LeBron has never even came close to this stat line.
    •in 87 thru 92, MJ averaged 5 straight seasons of atleast 51% FG shooting. LeBron has never done this.
    •the lowest FT% MJ ever shot in a season was 78%. Lebrons highest in a season ever is 78%.
    •MJ has a higher playoff FG% of 48.7% to Lebrons 48.3%
    •MJ has a higher playoff player efficiency rating of 28.6 to Lebrons 27.3.
    •MJ shoots a higher playoff 3 point percentage of 33.2% to Lebrons 32.9%

    •MJ also shocked the league by being the first (and only) player to have 100 blocks and 200 steals in the same season, then turned around and did it again the next year..

    Seriously this list can keep going. This isn't even a debate. Mj is the GOAT.

    Michael in only ELEVEN complete seasons with the Bulls:

    -10 STRAIGHT scoring titles,
    -Won Defensive Player of the Year,
    -9 times all defensive team,
    -9time All NBA,
    -5 league MVPs
    -6 finals MVPs

    LBJ missed the playoffs completely in his first 2 years. Jordan didnt with scrubs on his squad. Jordan played 82 games 9 times in his career once at 40. LBJ only played 82 games once. In 89 Jordan won the scoring title all star MVP slam dunk title regular season MVP and Defensive Player of The year something LBJ has never done. Jordan also averaged 41 pts a game for an entire Finals shootimg 50% and won. Something else LBJ never did.
    All 11 seasons. Mj has done in 11 seasons things Lebron hasn’t done and won’t do in his whole career...

    And before you criticize me for copy and pasting just know that it doesn’t matter if it’s copied or not, truth is truth.

  • Rule Your Role_Athletes Dad'sTHEboss

    LeBron left a poor cheap miserable owner in Cleveland, if that means anything