HARLEY DAVIDSON 103 VS 107 MILWAUKEE 8! IS IT WORTH UPGRADING!?

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  • Published on Oct 20, 2018
  • I wanted to make a video to compare both the 103CI Harley Davidson Twin Cam motor in the 2015 Road Glide against the new 107CI Milwaukee 8 motor in the 2018 Road Glide. We did a few highway pulls in Mexico to see which one is faster. Make sure you browse the channel and subscribe, as always, thanks for watching!
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Comments • 466

  • Alex Paltrineri
    Alex Paltrineri 9 days ago

    It’s not a stage 2 it’s a stage 1 upgrade, for it to be a stage 2 you need to upgrade the cam...

  • Keith Copeland
    Keith Copeland 12 days ago

    I ride inline 4s. I would never ride a Harley but I respect their riders and Harley as an American based company. Harleys are not fast, but this video is a Harley vs Harley video, not one of those silly Harley vs Busa vids. Don't talk smack about 2 guys lining up 2 of the bikes they like riding. Just because they run lower numbers than sport bikes doesn't mean they wouldn't smoke most street based vehicles.

  • Dan Benkert
    Dan Benkert 14 days ago

    The Milwaukee 8 motor has far more power than the Twin Cam. That 107 should annihilate that 103 with ease not sure whats going on here maybe the rider. I have 3 Twin Cam bikes all built and a 114 FXDR and the FXDR has an incredible amount of power, torque just ridiculous especially when you hit gears. My Screamin Eagle CVO 110 is the closest Twin Cam with gear driven cams to that motor and I will leave it in the dust. Theeee pull of the M8 is crazy compared to the Twin Cam . This winter Im putting a cam in the bike it's supposed to really make the M8 come alive some pipes then down the line Im sure I will put the S&S 128in doesn't need it but the need for speed is a drug !!

  • Jack De Haan
    Jack De Haan 22 days ago

    Loved my 103, but my new 107 is even better. Smoother with more torque. Glad I upgraded. Am considering a stage 2 down the road.

  • k9m42
    k9m42 23 days ago

    My 103 Stage 4 Fatbob gas 110\110 and would smoke these bikes easy.

  • David Harder
    David Harder 27 days ago

    I like my 103, 2014 FLHR. Its basically got a stage II as well I think with a cam (I bought it used). Lookin to bump up to 110 Tire Shredder. 126 HP sounds good.

  • Ron Mexico
    Ron Mexico Month ago

    Yeah, upgrade and lose reliability. Sounds like a great deal!

  • ethreetwok
    ethreetwok Month ago

    Have a 2011 Road King with the tire shredder 110 kit use the 585 Cam and lifters Dino Dan at 115 horsepower 121 torque Dirty Bird 2 into 1 lmf pipe

  • Wendy Stoltzfus
    Wendy Stoltzfus 2 months ago

    My 15 RG with 103 TC ,cams ,2into 2 Magna flow, big cobra intake ,PV tune I venture to say would smoke that 107 and get close to 50 mpg all day long. 95 HP ,112 ft lbs tq.

  • RIZZO EAST COAST MADNESS

    I have a stock 88ci on an 03 dyna defender (this police model has no upgrade at all)
    I have 2013's heritage softail and street bob. Street bob ran great with thundermax tuner (before i bought it off a friend) HD shop pulled it and put on of theres. I am not impressed at all with 103. It has no 1st gear pull out power at all. In higher rpms it just plateaus. And the 103's run extremely hot. I run straight 50w lucas for summer and i die at a stop light or traffic. Also they have the fuckn compensator issue again as 88 did. Not all but when u end up with one, u will know. I replaced 3 complete charging systems then caught on to a rotor for every season. This year i tried something different so hopefully my oem rotor holds. Otherwise ill have to buy a $450 upgraded aftermarket system. If the 103's start this shit, ill be needing a 2nd job. I love HD's however they use too many components then sell u an upgrade. The price of a new bike, use the better part. And if u want a tuner that works and not SE bs, no warrenty. Those pipes, no warranty. Fkn cunt corporation ran by white collar liberal fags instead of blue collar men who can start a harley and rip it down the road. All goin to shit. Im working on an EVO and goin all EVO and carbs

  • Scrum Thebum2
    Scrum Thebum2 2 months ago

    I have a 103 road king with 57h cams .30 head gasket & zippers 1.8 CNC port heads dynoed at 108 hp & 116 TQ. Also have a 81 shovelhead low rider with a 96 inch stroker with lots of goodies that will smoke my road king and both those bikes. Power to weight ratio 😆

  • P K
    P K 2 months ago

    I had a stage 5 kit in my 103. I got taken out by an asshat driver. I have a 107 now stage 2 torque kit. My 103 had a good bit more power.. I will eventually get to stage 3 or 4 in this bike. but it was all i could afford at the time based off my insurance payout.

  • Brandyn Baldrich
    Brandyn Baldrich 2 months ago +1

    We still ignoring the hell cat in the back?

  • Rudy Hinojosa
    Rudy Hinojosa 2 months ago

    What I would like to see is a digital laser thermometer reading of the rear cylinder tops as a comparison.

  • Richard Merrifield
    Richard Merrifield 2 months ago

    Buy a 600 cc Honda and smoke 'em both. ! Be sure to wait for you change.

  • Black ICE
    Black ICE 2 months ago

    Ain’t noway those numbers are correct.

  • Luis perez
    Luis perez 2 months ago

    For the amount of money you spend ...sure seems like a waste just to get slow speeds. A STOCK sport bike at 1/4 Of the price of HD will go faster in 3rd gear. LMFAO.... AND I own a HARLEY-DAVIDSON. Just saying leave the speed where it belongs...on sport bikes at the TRACK

  • Michael Cull
    Michael Cull 2 months ago

    Problem with the M8 is the loss of engine warranty if you upgrade with non Screaming Eagle parts.

    • Wade Hermes
      Wade Hermes 2 months ago

      I just bought a 2019 Street Glide Special and specifically asked this question. There was a company wide notice sent from the HD Motor company that you can use non screaming eagle parts for your stage 1 as long as you use a screaming eagle tuner. If you use a non screaming eagle tuner, THAT will void your warranty.

  • Ronnie Verma
    Ronnie Verma 2 months ago

    Damn not even 100 HP lol holy shit.... what’s preventing HD from ramping up the HP on these bikes ?

  • Drax68
    Drax68 2 months ago +1

    Drop that Vrod Motor in a bagger....

  • John Turner
    John Turner 2 months ago +1

    Wow it took them forever to catch them cars. They both lost

  • Joe jo joe
    Joe jo joe 2 months ago +2

    Well the truth depends on the rider how experienced on racing but yes 107 has more power but still 103 still has balls

  • Pete Allen
    Pete Allen 3 months ago +1

    Don't know why you're even bothering with the two tractors when the best bike in the garage is a v-rod by far the best bike ever built by hd.

  • Robert Polkamp
    Robert Polkamp 3 months ago

    Real close, real slow. Does it even double the speed limit?

  • Nick Eminoski
    Nick Eminoski 3 months ago

    I own a 18 sgs with the 107 and a "stage 1" and I love the bike. But harleys are God awful slow!!!!!!!!!!!! But I guess if I want a fast bike I would buy a metric bike.

  • gator
    gator 3 months ago

    Depends on the loose nut behind the handle bars. Most shift to early

  • Steven Begonia
    Steven Begonia 3 months ago

    Stage 1 bikes not stage 2

  • john ernst
    john ernst 3 months ago +1

    Rolling races are always give or take. Go from a dead stop bikes are set up different.

  • SCS
    SCS 3 months ago +2

    107ci Milwaukee 8 engine is a smoother running engine. The 107 idles nice vers the 103

  • will palmer
    will palmer 3 months ago +3

    If you wanna go fast, dont buy a harley.

  • Johnny Turbo
    Johnny Turbo 3 months ago +2

    4ci is not much at all in the grand scheme of things. At that point the lighter bike and rider wins. Those are only stage 1.. with that it all depends on how well the exhaust, intake and tune does for that bike. What's each bikes dynoed out to now? Maybe the 103ci made more power do to a better performance upgrade selection and tune? Either way 4ci is not really a significant difference to make a whopping difference. With that, the M8 will run cooler, smoother and when you both get into stage 2 or higher is when you will see the 107ci start to really show its gains.

  • mr2bmw
    mr2bmw 3 months ago +3

    Twin cam sounds a hell of alot better than a M8.

    • Brandon green
      Brandon green 3 months ago

      mr2bmw they definitely do a m8 needs a cam

  • Freedom five
    Freedom five 3 months ago +1

    107 didn't seem worth the upgrade to me

  • David Peterson
    David Peterson 3 months ago +1

    I would like to see a pull from a stop and 25mph then highway. With the torque of the M8 you should have much better results on the first two pulls.

  • Peter Taylor
    Peter Taylor 3 months ago +1

    Great video good footage.. interesting results. Thanks a lot for this video..
    Nonetheless as we know it's the rider ... that would make the difference as to who's faster... in turms of ripping around the twisties or blasting around the coast !
    The twin cam and the 6 speed are a great combination that's for sure.
    Is the m8 better ?
    Time will tell !!
    😎

  • Ben Daves
    Ben Daves 3 months ago

    2nd race the m8 got the jump on the 103

  • Ben Daves
    Ben Daves 3 months ago +2

    To me I don't care which one wins I will stick with my twin cam engine and not dealing with the known issues of the m8 motor.. atleast for a few years

    • Chandler Craythorn
      Chandler Craythorn 3 months ago

      Sucks to suck I guess. All the complaints I see about the bikes are just on the internet from people that seem to just be haters. Everyone I know with an m8 bike loves it and haven't had any problems

    • Ben Daves
      Ben Daves 3 months ago

      @Chandler Craythorn I'm not listening to all the hype I don't own a m8 but have 2 friends who just had to go running to the dealership and get them one rather than keeping their twin cam bikes that had alot of money spent on them. Both persons mentioned have been to the dealership several times ... oil pumps replaced along with several other parts and both are now currently having new power plants put into their bikes that are under warranty due to the oil sumping problem which is only one of the several problems that they have been dealing with

    • Chandler Craythorn
      Chandler Craythorn 3 months ago

      I wouldn't listen to all the hype about the m8 problems. I have a 2018 street bob that just hit 10k miles and the only thing I've had to do is adjust the clutch lever because it got a little soft around 7k miles

  • 43grog
    43grog 3 months ago

    103 79hp? come on HD.

  • Boon Dock
    Boon Dock 4 months ago

    I love when Harleys try to race my vulcan I leave them in the dust

  • Boon Dock
    Boon Dock 4 months ago

    man those fuckers are slow but look nice

  • Brandon Jensen
    Brandon Jensen 4 months ago

    Thanks for sharing the video! I'm looking at Street Glides right now and found a great deal on a 2016 Street Glide that fits in my budget but I also found a 2107 n 2018 that are a bit more in price but they have the 107 in them and I wasnt sure how much of a difference there was in power. Can you help with suggestions between the 2016 and 2018 that would help sway me one way or another?

  • jim rich
    jim rich 4 months ago

    If you want a bike that is junk brand new get a M8, GMR performance in Fort worth gets um in with a few miles, crank has locked up rods the little oiler in bottom of motor is loose and can't do it's job Harley is sad these days, headed down the drain very soon. See GMR"S video's on Facebook.

  • Tim L
    Tim L 4 months ago

    stage 2 is a cam change

  • Texas acres Homestead
    Texas acres Homestead 4 months ago

    I'll keep my 883 stage 4

  • Denis Stitt
    Denis Stitt 4 months ago +1

    I like both bikes but, I can’t help but drool over that 103 man. 🥴

  • Cody Johnson
    Cody Johnson 4 months ago

    I just bought a new 2018 and can honesty say my 2004 vtx1800 was much much faster. And twin cam>single cam

  • kawboy216
    kawboy216 4 months ago +1

    no motor work means stage 1 only. Cams are stage 2

  • DeadStockScat
    DeadStockScat 4 months ago +1

    Hellcat 🙌🏽

  • G Moore
    G Moore 4 months ago +1

    The rider of the bike makes a big deal as well when it comes to a race. You can have a tad bit slower vehicle and still win the race when the driver/rider is much better. With the test you performed to do it correctly you would have did 6 total races with you two switching bikes after the first 3. That would leave a negative number for each bike and each rider on a specific bike. Just saying.

  • Antonio Browning
    Antonio Browning 4 months ago

    These have Stage 1 upgrades. Stage 2 adds a cam change.

  • Clive Harman
    Clive Harman 5 months ago +10

    103 twin can motor has 2 valves per pot 4 in total,
    107 Milwaukee 8 is 8 valves per pot 8 in total.the Milwaukee 8 motors have a better air cover on them for sucking in air.
    PS all Harleys are nice no matter what.

  • Scott Bollinger
    Scott Bollinger 5 months ago

    Need to shift smother

  • Mike Yount
    Mike Yount 5 months ago +1

    One of the best comparison videos I’ve seen ! Well done man !

  • tangled Line
    tangled Line 5 months ago +1

    I was cringe city on this. Not worth the upgrade...even a stage 3. ....unless 100 mph is fast..

  • HaHa Too Slow
    HaHa Too Slow 5 months ago

    The 107 might be losing overall power through the curve with that exhaust. I heard they do best with just slip ons. I can’t speak for the touring chassis 103 but I had a Dyna 103 and went to a 2018 street glide special. It wouldn’t even be a race. The m8 would destroy it. Especially 60-110mph. The 103 didn’t have much go after 90mph. It can go further but it would take a while or a down hill. The 107 just goes right through it. Both bikes were 100% stock. I would say the 103 would need intake, exhaust, and cams to keep up with a stock 107 up top.

  • marvin R
    marvin R 5 months ago +6

    This is just one of those things that if you just have to have the newest and baddest bike you can afford just do it! I have a 06 Electra glide Ultra Classic with a big bore 95 SE Cams VH ovals with true duels and mapped with a Power Commander well I have no problem keeping up with and even pulling on most of my buddies newer bikes so I just can't justify starting over with a new bike and making all those payments again. It's so nice to have a beautiful older bike that most people think is still fairly new. So keep those old H-D's clean and running good and you can enjoy them for many years to come.

    • marvin R
      marvin R 3 months ago

      congrats on keeping the old girl in good shape. i love the old Evo's .. I had a 98 Fat Boy but had to sell it to help with my closing on my house many years ago. Now I have 4 bike. Thanks for sharing.

    • Michael S
      Michael S 3 months ago

      still running a 98 Ultra Classic with a 80 EVO, stock for now, only added some Vance & Hines slip ons, stage 2 this fall hopefully. Like you said, paid off feels good and old but looks fairly new

  • Lay Heavy FatBoy
    Lay Heavy FatBoy 5 months ago +5

    I had a 114 about 3 days until my buddy passed me on a Victory.

    • Chandler Craythorn
      Chandler Craythorn 3 months ago +4

      At least your 114 isnt butt ugly like a victory though lol

  • Nick Randolph
    Nick Randolph 5 months ago

    They’re fucking Harley’s people, they’re slow regardless. If you want speed, just get a super sport

  • Darren Forgette
    Darren Forgette 5 months ago +4

    I just bought my first Harley. Salesman tried to wow me with the power bs. I told him look. Listen theres nothing you have on the floor or in the building that would impress me power wise. That's not the reason I'm buying. I bought my bike to cruise. If you want real HP and speed dont go harley. I've been drag racing all my life. Harley is not fast period.

    • Thomas Marchese
      Thomas Marchese 13 days ago +1

      Darren Forgette a jap bike turns 3x the rpms of a Harley. That’s why they make so much power. And they don’t weigh anything. Harley’s are not better than sport bikes. Sport bikes aren’t better than Harley’s. Harley’s aren’t motor gp bikes. But a Harley with legends or ohlins shocks is fucking fun in the “twisties” a sport bike is not a cruiser but you can ride one 400 miles. Or both can be and do get ridden daily. I know a lot of people that own both simultaneously. I’ve owned and ridden plenty of both. Ride what you like and let others do the same. A Harry might be crap for your 18 year old who wants to do 200 miles an hour. But if you’re 45 and have a bad back or something that Harley is going to be way more comfortable and still be fun to ride. Because say what you want. Harley’s cherish to sport bikes on torque. Sport bikes are fast cause they’re light. If they weighed as much as a Harley it would take forever to get up to speed. Most people who talk shit are just running their mouth. If you put your ass in the seat of both. AND respect all motorcycles for their intended purpose. Then the only answer is “idc if you ride a klrsport touring thing, a brand new tricked bagger, a club style dyna, an r1, a Ducati, idc. I care more about how well the bike is built for its purpose). Make sense? People talk shit but only have half a clue. Maybe the people who ride bikes should leave the numbers to the pros. Ride what you like, build it to do the best it can at its intended purpose and let others do the same. If anyone feels the need to dog other for what they ride, especially with half educated reasonings than that persons opinion isn’t worth shit anyway. Professionals remember that every individual bike is built for a specific purpose. To compare an American v twin cruiser to a sport bike and try to determine which is a better bike all around is absolutely ridiculous and irrelevant right from the get go. But y’all can argue like a bunch of 18 year olds. Big boys will be building bikes for specific purposes. Building to be the best they can be at that purpose and respecting everyone’s personal preference and riding style.

    • King Keef
      King Keef 5 months ago

      @Darren Forgette look up the 2019 g3 p-51 combat fighter. S @ S 132ci 160+ HP 200+ TQ its a harley drag bike custom made with a str8 cut drag trans air cooled engine

    • King Keef
      King Keef 5 months ago

      @Darren Forgette why did you avoid my question about building your bike???? I'm starting to smell BS on all you claim😂😂 alright I'm going to call it as I see it. You don't own a Harley and you have never built a motorcycle. You say you drag race them but know nothing about engines. You claim you ran street bikes 170 mph in a 1/4 mile. I'm seeing a lot of bs here. I own Harley's and have raced crotch rockets and I know alot about engines what's important(TQ) and what's not(HP) you don't have a fun fucking clue😂😂

    • King Keef
      King Keef 5 months ago

      @Darren Forgette you do know that Harley's are all about tq and not about HP right? Tq is what actually moves the motorcycle not HP

    • King Keef
      King Keef 5 months ago

      @Darren Forgette not Gon happen. Show me a sports bike with a 4" stroke. 9:1 compression pistons not 11:1 show me a sports bike with a all steel crankshaft show me a sports bike that's over 600 lbs

  • Bob Johnson
    Bob Johnson 5 months ago

    The M8 guy needs to stop letting off the throttle between shifts. He would've gained another bike length. The bike is very well calibrated, Harley did a good job in this department. I have pro shifters on my sport bikes and my 2019 RGU shift speed is not to far behind. Just hold it wide and shift!