1177 BC: The Year Civilization Collapsed (Eric Cline, PhD)
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- Опубликовано: 11 окт 2016
- From about 1500 BC to 1200 BC, the Mediterranean region played host to a complex cosmopolitan and globalized world-system. It may have been this very internationalism that contributed to the apocalyptic disaster that ended the Bronze Age. When the end came, the civilized and international world of the Mediterranean regions came to a dramatic halt in a vast area stretching from Greece and Italy in the west to Egypt, Canaan, and Mesopotamia in the east. Large empires and small kingdoms collapsed rapidly. With their end came the world’s first recorded Dark Ages. It was not until centuries later that a new cultural renaissance emerged in Greece and the other affected areas, setting the stage for the evolution of Western society as we know it today. Professor Eric H. Cline of The George Washington University will explore why the Bronze Age came to an end and whether the collapse of those ancient civilizations might hold some warnings for our current society.
Considered for a Pulitzer Prize for his recent book 1177 BC, Dr. Eric H. Cline is Professor of Classics and Anthropology and the current Director of the Capitol Archaeological Institute at The George Washington University. He is a National Geographic Explorer, a Fulbright scholar, an NEH Public Scholar, and an award-winning teacher and author. He has degrees in archaeology and ancient history from Dartmouth, Yale, and the University of Pennsylvania; in May 2015, he was awarded an honorary doctoral degree (honoris causa) from Muhlenberg College. Dr. Cline is an active field archaeologist with 30 seasons of excavation and survey experience.
The views expressed in this video are those of the speaker and do not necessarily reflect the views of the National Capital Area Skeptics. 
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I see an analogy here- BUILD THAT WALL NOW!
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50:00 I wonder if they had a brawl over it.
It's good until 24:00 when he blames climate change. This is of course impossible because there were no Republicans born yet to cause it.
How do we know this was trade and not a gift economy?
Do people leave there dead under fallen structures after an earthquake?
Nice 'one eye' symbology ...
Eventually a financial system accumulates too much debt or other crap and has to be reset. Now we do it through printing money.
Aren't the Phoenecians really the most apt to fit the description "Sea Peoples"???? And doesn't Zukerman's argument rule out the rest (esp. the earthquake that Cline follows up with!) wrt Canaan?
Can I say this is history done right?
So, he questions whether or not the Exodus took place; but, he believes the Trojan war happened. Got it- he teaches history from the perspective of the heathen.
1200BC and there is no China or India as a civilisation? Man you are missing out a huge part of the history as a professor... hahahaha
This is only the middle east that he's talking about. China was flourishing for millenia.
Edit - 2016
Very interesting!
~32:00 Why would an invading army fleeing famine burn grain stores and destroy vineyards?
My Facebook account just got hacked! It's the Sea Peoples!
Well first off the Minoans were taken out by the eruption of the Island of Santorini in 1628 BC so im not sure why he included them at 21.24 in the vid. Plus the fact it is now know also be the Era of the exodus because of the climate change in Egypt was the source of the plagues and then the exodus.
I did a quick search, there are at least 10 more RU-clip Dr Eric H.Cline Videos
I wonder why he doubts some records and Seemingly takes others as fact.
Just another troll riding the tail coat of Graham Hancock. Figures.
Trump 2020
Sir, I dare say that this is all the result of the Minoan eruption of Thera. Mt Santorini 1642-1540 BCE. Climate change. My two cents worth. Sincerely...
Wonderful lecture that is very relevant to our times.. I first heard of this period of history from a lecture by Bruce Gore . His is the best mix of the historical events out of Egyptian history (that excludes any reference to the Exodus) that secular scholars accept and a comparison of the events noted in the Bible( which does give an account of an Exodus). Here is the link: ru-clip.com/video/iyzf09t5klk/видео.html
The volcanic eruption of Thera and the resulting tsunami and environmental changes they caused were also a major stressor of the eastern Mediterranean civilizations.
I'm curious is there any indication where the Sea People's come from. I know a bunch of Stories from many 1st century historians but are the Sea People the equivalent of Atlantis in term's of Origin.
It's always old people and never a single young person that's attending stuff like this lmao
Because the young ones are busy protesting for abortion.
Fascinating lecture! (Did anybody else notice, though, that all the Ugarit/Hittite correspondence showed the same clay tablet?)
Suffice to say, we find Great Fires and much floored and flooded in America. They were here too. China is blocked off, when, during Mongol invasions or the Portuguese Empire that comes up quick not long after this time period? No mention of the tsunami and eq that wiped out many only in 1755. End of another era but still within 1000 years of dates that may have been changed.
The Mediterranean could have had a 'turned over'. This happens to large bodies of water ( like the Black Sea). The bigger the volume the longer it takes to occur. ( it happens in small lakes and dams all the time - almost every year)
In this case the deeper water become infused with poison gasses from rotting material which make it lighter than the body of water above it. Then there is a switch. The change of pressure releases the gasses and they travel over land killing anything nearby. It is sudden and to escape it you have to move to higher ground.
It fits all the 'results'.
I've mentioned this as a hypothesis to a number of archaeologists and they dismiss it with zero thought.
It's obvious he loves his job and being able to share it. Wonderful. Thank you, Dr. Cline. Well done.
I don't know how this got to my home page, but I am glad it did, outside of the fact that I "wasted" over an hour of my morning. This was great, and I wanted more.
That ship going down with all those amazing, fine, valuable goods made me upset haha. Can you imagine how gutted you would be if you were a king waiting on the resources to outfit a new army, the coloured glass and pottery to decorate your palace and the ivory to fashion into gifts for your friends and family, and it never arrives? Or worse, the merchant who purchased and transported all of these goods? If he wasn't aboard the vessel himself, you have to wonder if that was his whole livelihood sinking to the bottom of the sea. The biggest deal of his life crashing down and lost amidst a storm.
Its very plausible the Exodus is factual. This is precisely the time frame in which this event took place. the plagues in Egypt happened due to your reasoning and because of the civil unrest, the Israelite's were able to leave. Moses gave God (yaweh) the glory for letting them go, however, these events allowed them to pretty much just pack up and run. If there was severe drought they could have crossed at the lake of Tanis (a much more plausible place where winds could easily part the waters. ( www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2014/12/08/no-really-there-is-a-scientific-explanation-for-the-parting-of-the-red-sea-in-exodus/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.1db710962176 ). They stayed in Kadesh-barnea because it was the only place they could live during the drought. The manna from God they ate were actually Mushrooms grown from the morning dew. Moses and a small group were followers of Yaweh but pretty much everyone else were pagans just trying to flee hence the idol worship and Moses being upset and throwing a fit. By the time they made it to Canaan it had already been sacked, so easy pickings. I am convinced this did happen.
Droughts, system collapse, and rebellion are happening at all times, someplace in the world. Look at native american culture. Look at sub-saharan african culture.
ABOUT 800 000 SISTERS WHO LIVE IN MY HEART ...
Stupid name
We are in the IRON age.
Space age
'The land of Canaan being in ruins as a result of a web of events creating a power vacuum of which the Israelites availed themselves.' That sounds like a wirl wind of DIVINE PROVIDENCE to secure the Holy Land for the Israelites, which would otherwise had been impossible.
In other words, nature conspired to establish monotheism in the heart of pagan civilization.
Thanks for this very interesting presentation.
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Who else was disappointed when it turned out that Eric Cline didn't have a Scottish accent?
Great lecture, Dr. Cline looks like a teacher you could listen all day long. :)
Why are you still using 'BC?' It's unscientific. Before the Common Era (BCE) is the designation many scientists & scholars are using today because it removes Christian domination and because it's impossible to date the birth of Jesus Christ...if he lived at all as there is zero hard evidence for his existence.
+Yusef Endure it would be more honest to say "I have no clue how to prove that I am not a bot".
+Lesenio Konokorana It would be more honest to say "I' can't prove Christ was anything more than a myth." Evading the issue of the historicity of Jesus Christ proves you've got no evidence and no argument. Third party, independent eye-witnesses can easily prove that Christ was a man not myth. The problem is that none of the above exists, so all you have is opinion, cognitive dissonance and denial.
+Yusef Endure What evidence do you have that you exist?
+Lesenio Konokorana What date was Jesus Christ born? What evidence do you have that this person existed?
I had zero evidence that you live. You may be bot or other kind of AI programmed to deceive people.
i literaly sat through the entire vid,i love history,i wish i went to college to study it,this proffesor is amazing,what a joy to wach..
Reference to the weather ... He's charming lol
He has a book of the same name. I can highly recommend it
We are here explains why I can feel so well my past life.
They obviously were tech savvy enough to handle their Y-1.2K problem -- that's why their civilization needed to be rebooted -- they didn't even have DOS back then.
Understand Christian Identity. All falls into place.
Is it just me or does he sound a little like Bill Clinton?
So... California: Drought? Check. Built atop faults? Check. Climate change? Check. Invasion of "Si" People? Check.
What could possibly go wrong? :)-
This was about as disappointing as one could ever imagine. Just lists of names and dates with no significant development. Nothing cementing the whole story together so I would confirm this is just s click bate American 'wanna be an intellectual' nonsense from some guy who considers himself to be 'important' but who in fact is just the product of American education...and we all know what value American education has in the world today.
To fill in all the gaps where "we don't know the cause"......simply write in JEWS. Whose every holiday celebrates the genocides of civilization builders. Easy peasy and totally true.
Migration? All the wall arguing today...
SO his book and/or this video started all of the "Prepping". I better order another 1000 rounds of ammo, just in case he's right.
at 24:00 he uses the term Climate Change that occurred in 1200 BC don't show this to Al Gore
What a wonderful professor. The thing that is infuriating about understanding true history is chronology. It is almost impossible to put together real stories when we know the chronology has been so tampered with. Once that year zero was artificially interjected, we can no longer tell when is what. Also, official history completely ignores the Balkan peninsula (the Helm) in these time periods - when it was clearly an integral, if not one of the central, originating areas of these periods.
oh and to the presenter hamurhabis code indeed dealt with the return of sandals you just didnt read the meaning in the law given from the gods, which takes some reading but eventually covers almost every known problem of even our complex times.... just read and re read and you will find it ironically in the most obvious place.
when we watch these lectures and everyone watching gives their perspective of the happenings i never get tired of being asonished at the names of the relevant sites Turkey Egypt Iran Afghanistan syria, etc...all places that fighting is going on, all places America is trying to exercise control, and all places of great historic significance. I love this guys solemn devotion to science and the method without hyperbole. I think however its sometimes disingenuous to say that noone knows these things surely they do but try to get funding if you expose these connections between war torn countries and the historical significance to the human record... science tends to be dishonest in their revelations to procure future funding that may reveal what they have found, but in reality never will because noone wants to relearn history let alone learn it in the first place, including this guy.
Undeniably, you have a more accurate and descriptive version of what went down during this time period within the Hebrew texts. You are suppressing the truth for monetary reasons suggested from the global so-called "elite". You try soooo hard to keep a job.
Note that the Latins came to Italy and the celts to Ireland and the Dorians to Greece a little aftr this time, closer to 1000 BC.
I don't think the Persian Empire was around in 1200 BC. Had Zoroastra lived yet? Maybe the Mitanni or Medean, one of those pre-Persian, Empires or at least state was extant.
Catastrophic events. Extreme weather and sun acting up.
Climate change causing drought? How stupid. How about the mass felling of trees to build houses, cities and trading sea vessels?? No trees = no transport and holding of water via the roots of trees to and in deep ground reserves = increased evaporation of all surface water = heavier precipitation = removal of top soil as it is washed away by the rain, there being no roots of trees to bind it = reduced ability to plant and grow food = drought and famine!! All this is exacerbated by over grazing of grasses by man's domesticated animals.......man's stupid walk towards being 'civilised'. HUH. We are still there, today. Stupid.
Every race has been compromised by the sea-people, except blacks (so-called) aa they're from the underworld.
+hallerd check flat earth map matey don't even bother
+moloton telemaque Proof?
+hallerd you are lost sorry there is a place
There's no such thing as the underworld.
Sorry this is how everyone except blk ppl is not human 11th dimension truth is cold hard facts these sea ppl are not human but are demon Reptiles who has no soul and so-called blacks are the real Humans that hidden under bondage and through the curses put in place by THE MOST HIGH the true god of Israel, also research Timelife books entitled YOU ARE NOT HUMAN
If this dude denies gobleki tepi, he is not a worthy historian..... I would really want to know what he thinks about that
This was all immortalized by The Bangles in the 80s.
What was globalization in 1200 BCE other than trade? The alternative to trade was to have a lower quality of life or go to war to steal the resources. Trade worked better.
It would seem that the rebellions could be the result of the other things. During shortages the rulers keep taking care of themselves. The masses become more desperate as the rulers are weakened.
Good until the end where he exaggerates parallels between them and now. For example, the Greek economy today is a small part of the world economy. Then it was a major part. Every era has earthquakes and volcanoes and these days we have better ways of dealing with them. Every era has rebellion.
This is a thoroughly fascinating talk, but there may be a small error around 48mins regarding the ivory found on the Uluburun shipwreck, being both elephant and hippo in origin. Perhaps he meant rhino (rather than hippo) ivory, along with the lesser quantities of elephant ivory?
+Eric Cline Thank you for the reply and correcting my misunderstanding, but then - wow those hippos must have (or had) some rather large teeth, to keep the trade going. So I'm wondering why they might not have traded in rhino ivory also, but this may not be a question for which answers are known? In any case it is a matter of relatively insignificant detail. Now Dr. Cline, I would really like to watch/listen to your suggested 'other' talk regarding the exodus. Is it available? Also for many years I have been particularly interested in Pharaoh Akhenaten, his mother Queen Tye, Nefertiti, and of course his son Tutankhamen.
Not an error; ivory is from hippo teeth. See, e.g., nautarch.tamu.edu/class/316/uluburun/ . Thanks for watching!
excuse me...never heard of York??vikings were raiders and wanted to settle as well otherwise he's great👌👌
Amazing you chose to ignore the Nubians all the way from Egypt to South Sudan
African Americans are west African. You're not Nubian bro lol
THIS IS CLASSIC EUROPEAN PSYCHOBABBLE MASQUERADING AS SCHOLARSHIP - There were so many intentionally misleading assertions, purveyed to assuage his and his audiences' collective culpability, that I would be here all day...so I will point out the easily verified. The Heqa Khaset, as the ancient Egyptians called them, did not mean 'Sea Peoples", it means the 'Followers of the Spirit of Set'. They called them red beings (Neanderthal genes), like Set, who were driven to ALL forms of Avarice (the name of their stronghold in the Nile Delta c. 1700 BCE). They brought the Plague with them to Egypt (at least 3 times) as they did to Indus Kush, Sumer, Minoan, Canaan, the Megalithic Cultures in France and Britain. This all occurred between 2100-1200 BCE. Yes, Joshua and his cohorts were Hyskos and they slaughtered the people of Canaan (and Egypt for a time) and took their virgin girls (and boys) as sex slaves. Their (your) god said it was a great thing to do and you never stopped. In South and Central America, the Spanish killed 70+ million in 55 years (1520-75), the white 'settlers', in North America, killed 50+ million (1620-1900), and that's a small part of the pie. Many of you think that getting rid of the rest of the Black people will solve your problems. However, we are your canaries in the coal mine, as we go you will soon follow. Ask yourself, has the Great Experiment worked? Has the mixing of Homo Sapien with Neanderthal genes created a more civilized or destructive man? Where are the more evolved among you? Has your religion and technology made the world a better place for all or pushed us toward the precipice of planetary destruction? IN THIS NEW AGE WE CAN ACHIEVE THE NEXT LEVEL OF CIVILIZATION, THROUGH PERCEPTION EXPANSION. ARE YOU A FOLLOWER OF THE KILLER GODS OR THE DAUGHTERS AND SONS OF THE ONE LAW?
The Chinese had final say in the re-alignment of the Earth's axis … placing the equator between themselves and Java … The Great Wall of China kept the Russians out, and frozen over … My spin.
Another man who doesn't know what he is talking about or talking bulshit Ancient Civilizations No mention of Indian Civilization
India has always been a backward agricultural society. How else could 3000 Britishers conquer the whole of |India ?
I have to correct you on one thing. I don't think it was called Israel back then
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It was the Irish
There is a tremendous number of ancient writings from all over the world that indicates there were world catastrophes leading to the destruction of most people and civilizations during this time. Yet, academics completely reject these writings as all imagination? It seems ridiculous to explain the collapse of all these incredible civilizations to the sea people. The ancient writings tell of a comet that caused great global destruction.
THIS IS CLASSIC EUROPEAN PSYCHOBABBLE MASQUERADING AS SCHOLARSHIP - There were so many intentionally misleading assertions, purveyed to assuage his and his audiences' collective culpability, that I would be here all day...so I will point out the easily verified. The Heqa Khaset, as the ancient Egyptians called them, did not mean 'Sea Peoples", it means the 'Followers of the Spirit of Set'. They called them red beings (Neanderthal genes), like Set, who were driven to ALL forms of Avarice (the name of their stronghold in the Nile Delta c. 1700 BCE). They brought the Plague with them to Egypt (at least 3 times) as they did to Indus Kush, Sumer, Minoan, Canaan, the Megalithic Cultures in France and Britain. This all occurred between 2100-1200 BCE. Yes, Joshua and his cohorts were Hyskos and they slaughtered the people of Canaan (and Egypt for a time) and took their virgin girls (and boys) as sex slaves. Their (your) god said it was a great thing to do and you never stopped. In South and Central America, the Spanish killed 70+ million in 55 years (1520-75), the white 'settlers', in North America, killed 50+ million (1620-1900), and that's a small part of the pie. Many of you think that getting rid of the rest of the Black people will solve your problems. However, we are your canaries in the coal mine, as we go you will soon follow. Ask yourself, has the Great Experiment worked? Has the mixing of Homo Sapien with Neanderthal genes created a more civilized or destructive man? Where are the more evolved among you? Has your religion and technology made the world a better place for all or pushed us toward the precipice of planetary destruction? IN THIS NEW AGE WE CAN ACHIEVE THE NEXT LEVEL OF CIVILIZATION, THROUGH PERCEPTION EXPANSION. ARE YOU A FOLLOWER OF THE KILLER GODS OR THE DAUGHTERS AND SONS OF THE ONE LAW?
Fantastic video
I am the leader of 21 st century sea people and here i give in, just joking. Ye the cradle of civilization and in all my knowledge they were quite successful regarding how long they lived in peace and harmony.
THIS IS CLASSIC EUROPEAN PSYCHOBABBLE MASQUERADING AS SCHOLARSHIP - There were so many intentionally misleading assertions, purveyed to assuage his and his audiences' collective culpability, that I would be here all day...so I will point out the easily verified. The Heqa Khaset, as the ancient Egyptians called them, did not mean 'Sea Peoples", it means the 'Followers of the Spirit of Set'. They called them red beings (Neanderthal genes), like Set, who were driven to ALL forms of Avarice (the name of their stronghold in the Nile Delta c. 1700 BCE). They brought the Plague with them to Egypt (at least 3 times) as they did to Indus Kush, Sumer, Minoan, Canaan, the Megalithic Cultures in France and Britain. This all occurred between 2100-1200 BCE. Yes, Joshua and his cohorts were Hyskos and they slaughtered the people of Canaan (and Egypt for a time) and took their virgin girls (and boys) as sex slaves. Their (your) god said it was a great thing to do and you never stopped. In South and Central America, the Spanish killed 70+ million in 55 years (1520-75), the white 'settlers', in North America, killed 50+ million (1620-1900), and that's a small part of the pie. Many of you think that getting rid of the rest of the Black people will solve your problems. However, we are your canaries in the coal mine, as we go you will soon follow. Ask yourself, has the Great Experiment worked? Has the mixing of Homo Sapien with Neanderthal genes created a more civilized or destructive man? Where are the more evolved among you? Has your religion and technology made the world a better place for all or pushed us toward the precipice of planetary destruction? IN THIS NEW AGE WE CAN ACHIEVE THE NEXT LEVEL OF CIVILIZATION, THROUGH PERCEPTION EXPANSION. ARE YOU A FOLLOWER OF THE KILLER GODS OR THE DAUGHTERS AND SONS OF THE ONE LAW?
This is why science is based on faith. Did anyone else notice what he said at the 7:35 point?
+hallerd You need to look in the mirror. And you are correct on one point, humility is the best quality in a person. I wish you well.
+Gary Webb Why do you think you are smart? Humility is more virtuous than intelligence anyways. As far as salt is concerned, it's about the sodium potassium balance, and so salt refers to different salts with different chemical properties. Piltdown man has been widely considered to be a hoax by the entire scientific community for 100 years. It's ok to be stupid Gary, just don't pretend that your lack of an education is just as good as a real education.
+hallerd Butter is bad/butter is good, salt is bad/salt is good, eggs are bad/eggs are good, global cooling/global warming/climate change! Did I miss anything? Oh yes, PILTDOWN MAN. Science is a false god.
We get it, you worship Trump.
Economic warfare then all out war due to balance of payments or debt cancellation by the new pharaoh ie ramses lll!
THIS IS CLASSIC EUROPEAN PSYCHOBABBLE MASQUERADING AS SCHOLARSHIP - There were so many intentionally misleading assertions, purveyed to assuage his and his audiences' collective culpability, that I would be here all day...so I will point out the easily verified. The Heqa Khaset, as the ancient Egyptians called them, did not mean 'Sea Peoples", it means the 'Followers of the Spirit of Set'. They called them red beings (Neanderthal genes), like Set, who were driven to ALL forms of Avarice (the name of their stronghold in the Nile Delta c. 1700 BCE). They brought the Plague with them to Egypt (at least 3 times) as they did to Indus Kush, Sumer, Minoan, Canaan, the Megalithic Cultures in France and Britain. This all occurred between 2100-1200 BCE. Yes, Joshua and his cohorts were Hyskos and they slaughtered the people of Canaan (and Egypt for a time) and took their virgin girls (and boys) as sex slaves. Their (your) god said it was a great thing to do and you never stopped. In South and Central America, the Spanish killed 70+ million in 55 years (1520-75), the white 'settlers', in North America, killed 50+ million (1620-1900), and that's a small part of the pie. Many of you think that getting rid of the rest of the Black people will solve your problems. However, we are your canaries in the coal mine, as we go you will soon follow. Ask yourself, has the Great Experiment worked? Has the mixing of Homo Sapien with Neanderthal genes created a more civilized or destructive man? Where are the more evolved among you? Has your religion and technology made the world a better place for all or pushed us toward the precipice of planetary destruction? IN THIS NEW AGE WE CAN ACHIEVE THE NEXT LEVEL OF CIVILIZATION, THROUGH PERCEPTION EXPANSION. ARE YOU A FOLLOWER OF THE KILLER GODS OR THE DAUGHTERS AND SONS OF THE ONE LAW?
Excellent-lecture,-very-captivating.-Your-thesis-is-spot-on.
I-cant-thank-you-enough-for-clarifying-that-issue.DMT-is-somewhat-hard-to-come-by-in-an-unadulterated-form-so-instead-the-"go-to"-of-choice-is-known-as-"Crocodile"-A-charming-concoction-created-by-none-other-than-Putin's-little-stooges.-A-lovely-side-effect-is-gangrenous-tissue-which-exfoliates-rather-quickly-leaving-bone-exposed-on-hands,arms-feet-etc.Google-it-for-a-late-night-story.....Cheers!
+Paleo Man No, It's the Neanderthal genes on your 2nd, 3rd and 5th chromosomes. However, you can still ascend but you'll need lots of DMT
I-am-a-challenged-Mongolian.The-extra-y-chromosome-and-Downs-syndrome-results-in-many-questioning-my-motives.
+Paleo Man You're a barbarian, my comments were not for you...I'm speaking to the more evolved among your group...
Negative-ned-there-red-rider.Dr.-Feelgood-threw-a-rod-on-the-hershey-highway-while-driving-hard-up-in-uranus.So-he-is-chilling-in-your-crib-while-you-both-idle-away-the-time-playing-pocketpool-at-your-sausagefest.Cheers-mate.
do you have a spirit guide one cursed to walk the earth
I wonder why Egyptian forces were able to repel the Sea Peoples but the Hittites, who were able to repel the Egyptians, and the Greeks could not (remember the Greeks amassed a huge army to sack Troy). The Greeks were also extremely militaristic during this time period. Were Egyptian defenses (forts and city defenses) just better or perhaps incorporating some Sea Peoples into their army gave them the edge by knowing their tactics?
a virus broke out, killed many which open the gates of invasion and migration
Crab peoples, crab peoples, come from sea, twice, crab peoples, crab peoples, wipe out civilization in 1177BC,
Crab peoples..
Besides sediment pollen count samples for dating drought, there must be tree ring records ( Dendrochronologic ) going back that far also,
and in the 21st century, along comes a drumpf....will we ever learn?
I do think the 'rebellion' term is probably the closest to the truth, in the sense that at that time in 100-200 years the conflicts frequency it was very very high, as a result of socio-economic development, hence results for decline due to lack of labour force. It will be interested to see a study on population growth and impact on the economy, then climate...
Is another Collapse Of Civilization on the horizon? Of course, look around, see what the average human holds as dear and important to them (us) We deserve what we are creating, I only hope we do not kill off every other life form on this rare planet!
2:07 "Pharaoh of the Exodus -- IF that took place, lol." So um, an entire nation of people doing a ritualized and therefore very strictly adhered to for fear of heresy, and thus nearly guaranteed to be an unchanging story retold the same way for 3000 years is not evidence enough that something happened? I mean, challenge the sea parting part and a column of fire, fine, but slaves leaving the country? That's not hard to buy. I think purely because it's a religious tradition, the burden of proof is set higher, "oh that's so clearly something made up by stupid people, there's no proof they were ever in Egypt." The thing is, I heard a really smart guy at 1:04:20 say that "Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence." Ahem, the *freaking people telling the story about their slavery* is not enough evidence for you? But this mantra is fine for malaria, disease, oh sure, totally there despite lack of evidence, believe me, I'm a SCIENTIST! With double standards. Asshole.
+hallerd All right, I get it, malaria never happened in Egypt around 1177 BC, I guess I'll just have to accept that. Or maybe you could learn to friggin' read. You can't have it both ways.
+Theology On Tap Any claim made without evidence can be dismissed without evidence. Deal with it kid.
+hallerd "Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence." So ... Is it, or isn't it? Is my point. Cuz apparently that's enough to "assume" there was malaria in particular. But people saying "We were there and we were slaves" isn't enough evidence. Don't double standard bait and switch me, simpleton.
Israelite archeologists have never found any evidence for the fairy tale. Deal with it.
Always amazed that such ancient civilizations discussions exclude the Indus Valley civilization with the largest planned cities 80-100,000 populations, indoor sanitation for most, great art and trade across to Iraq,etc etc. also ended probably due to drought. Because it was only “discovered” in 1922, is that to recent to have gotten into school and college history books?
THIS IS CLASSIC EUROPEAN PSYCHOBABBLE MASQUERADING AS SCHOLARSHIP - There were so many intentionally misleading assertions, purveyed to assuage his and his audiences' collective culpability, that I would be here all day...so I will point out the easily verified. The Heqa Khaset, as the ancient Egyptians called them, did not mean 'Sea Peoples", it means the 'Followers of the Spirit of Set'. They called them red beings (Neanderthal genes), like Set, who were driven to ALL forms of Avarice (the name of their stronghold in the Nile Delta c. 1700 BCE). They brought the Plague with them to Egypt (at least 3 times) as they did to Indus Kush, Sumer, Minoan, Canaan, the Megalithic Cultures in France and Britain. This all occurred between 2100-1200 BCE. Yes, Joshua and his cohorts were Hyskos and they slaughtered the people of Canaan (and Egypt for a time) and took their virgin girls (and boys) as sex slaves. Their (your) god said it was a great thing to do and you never stopped. In South and Central America, the Spanish killed 70+ million in 55 years (1520-75), the white 'settlers', in North America, killed 50+ million (1620-1900), and that's a small part of the pie. Many of you think that getting rid of the rest of the Black people will solve your problems. However, we are your canaries in the coal mine, as we go you will soon follow. Ask yourself, has the Great Experiment worked? Has the mixing of Homo Sapien with Neanderthal genes created a more civilized or destructive man? Where are the more evolved among you? Has your religion and technology made the world a better place for all or pushed us toward the precipice of planetary destruction? IN THIS NEW AGE WE CAN ACHIEVE THE NEXT LEVEL OF CIVILIZATION, THROUGH PERCEPTION EXPANSION. ARE YOU A FOLLOWER OF THE KILLER GODS OR THE DAUGHTERS AND SONS OF THE ONE LAW?
I recently finished the book...really excellent read...One really interesting trend is how closely it follows the Old Testament, especially the Judges/Kings era..many of the mutt tribes faced by the early Hebrews were "Sea Peoples"...Samson's Philistine's are a great example...Im working on my 3rd time to read it...I find more stuff every time...Nice Work
THIS IS CLASSIC EUROPEAN PSYCHOBABBLE MASQUERADING AS SCHOLARSHIP - There were so many intentionally misleading assertions, purveyed to assuage his and his audiences' collective culpability, that I would be here all day...so I will point out the easily verified. The Heqa Khaset, as the ancient Egyptians called them, did not mean 'Sea Peoples", it means the 'Followers of the Spirit of Set'. They called them red beings (Neanderthal genes), like Set, who were driven to ALL forms of Avarice (the name of their stronghold in the Nile Delta c. 1700 BCE). They brought the Plague with them to Egypt (at least 3 times) as they did to Indus Kush, Sumer, Minoan, Canaan, the Megalithic Cultures in France and Britain. This all occurred between 2100-1200 BCE. Yes, Joshua and his cohorts were Hyskos and they slaughtered the people of Canaan (and Egypt for a time) and took their virgin girls (and boys) as sex slaves. Their (your) god said it was a great thing to do and you never stopped. In South and Central America, the Spanish killed 70+ million in 55 years (1520-75), the white 'settlers', in North America, killed 50+ million (1620-1900), and that's a small part of the pie. Many of you think that getting rid of the rest of the Black people will solve your problems. However, we are your canaries in the coal mine, as we go you will soon follow. Ask yourself, has the Great Experiment worked? Has the mixing of Homo Sapien with Neanderthal genes created a more civilized or destructive man? Where are the more evolved among you? Has your religion and technology made the world a better place for all or pushed us toward the precipice of planetary destruction? IN THIS NEW AGE WE CAN ACHIEVE THE NEXT LEVEL OF CIVILIZATION, THROUGH PERCEPTION EXPANSION. ARE YOU A FOLLOWER OF THE KILLER GODS OR THE DAUGHTERS AND SONS OF THE ONE LAW?
BUT...we do not (currently) have a world-wide or even a large area of ECONOMIC FAILURES. That is a driving force not present....now.
+Harold Morris WOW, Harold!!! You have SERIOUS ISSUES!!! Have you ever sought out professional help?
THIS IS CLASSIC EUROPEAN PSYCHOBABBLE MASQUERADING AS SCHOLARSHIP - There were so many intentionally misleading assertions, purveyed to assuage his and his audiences' collective culpability, that I would be here all day...so I will point out the easily verified. The Heqa Khaset, as the ancient Egyptians called them, did not mean 'Sea Peoples", it means the 'Followers of the Spirit of Set'. They called them red beings (Neanderthal genes), like Set, who were driven to ALL forms of Avarice (the name of their stronghold in the Nile Delta c. 1700 BCE). They brought the Plague with them to Egypt (at least 3 times) as they did to Indus Kush, Sumer, Minoan, Canaan, the Megalithic Cultures in France and Britain. This all occurred between 2100-1200 BCE. Yes, Joshua and his cohorts were Hyskos and they slaughtered the people of Canaan (and Egypt for a time) and took their virgin girls (and boys) as sex slaves. Their (your) god said it was a great thing to do and you never stopped. In South and Central America, the Spanish killed 70+ million in 55 years (1520-75), the white 'settlers', in North America, killed 50+ million (1620-1900), and that's a small part of the pie. Many of you think that getting rid of the rest of the Black people will solve your problems. However, we are your canaries in the coal mine, as we go you will soon follow. Ask yourself, has the Great Experiment worked? Has the mixing of Homo Sapien with Neanderthal genes created a more civilized or destructive man? Where are the more evolved among you? Has your religion and technology made the world a better place for all or pushed us toward the precipice of planetary destruction? IN THIS NEW AGE WE CAN ACHIEVE THE NEXT LEVEL OF CIVILIZATION, THROUGH PERCEPTION EXPANSION. ARE YOU A FOLLOWER OF THE KILLER GODS OR THE DAUGHTERS AND SONS OF THE ONE LAW?
I think climate change aside, we are not in danger. The Sea People(ISIS) are a bunch of farmers with pitchforks, and the overwhelming food surplus we have, the reason the lecturer got an opportunity to be obese, well, we might run out of almonds, but we have plenty of corn to munch upon. Really, climate change is the only thing that worries me.
PHINISIANS...WITHOUT A SINGLE BOOK..OR SOMETHING WRITTEN...GAVE ALPHABET..BUT ONLY LETTERS AS B.K.T.L...AND NOT A.E.H.I.O.Y.Ω....ΑΝD THAT LEAD TO LATIN ALPHABET??...MR CLINE YOU CAN NOT TURN OF HELLENIC CIVILIZATION......PLUS EVERY LETTER HAS (MATHEMATICS ,GEOMETRY,MEANING THAT DIRECT HUMAN TO UNIVERSE..ETC...ETC..) CAN YOU ALALYSE AND PROOF ALL THEESE FROM PHYNISIAN SIDE??THOSE FIRST ??..THEN YOU ARE MOST WELLCOME TO PRESENT TO US YOUR PROOVEN STORY AND NOT JUST ANOTHER THEORY.... THANKS
All declines and collapses in civilization happens during a Grand Solar Minimum.
Complete rubish. Civilization collapsed 10,000 years earlier. This guy is presenting old school mainstream pablum.