Game Theory: FNAF, The SECRET Afton (FNAF Security Breach)

Just a reminder to like the video! He puts in a ton of effort for these videos! ❤

Whether the theory ends up being correct or not, I think we can all thank MatPat and his team for coming up with these theories and piecing them together via videos for us!

The "I'm sorry" part in Fnaf 4 reminds me of another line in Security Breach, where Gregory finds a "lame Mr. Hyppo magnet" and Freddy says he's sorry in a way that's way too strong. I thought that was so random, and even Mark reacted to it in his playthrough, saying, "Why do you say that like I'm about to die?"

I don’t understand why of all the theories game theory has made, the last fnaf one which has great evidence and links the games lore brilliantly to the previous games got so much backlash? Like I love these last two theories since they have plenty of great evidence and link cleanly with the previous fnaf games

Props to MatPat and his team for making up these theories! They put lots of effort tryna gather these theories

My theory: Elizabeth was rebuilt, vanessa is her adult robot form renamed vanessa. Baby contained the spirit of the real Elizabeth. Vanessa is the rebuilt version with memories implanted like charlie in the books. Elizabeths spirit was released and put to rest in the fnaf6 ending which is why the eyes aren’t lit up. But since vanessa never contained the actual spirit of Elizabeth thats why she’s around. Basically what I’m thinking is that Vanessa is Elizabeth but Elizabeth/baby isnt vanessa. Just like how the puppet contained the soul of henrys daughter but he still rebuilt a version that has all the memories of the original daughter without having to contain the soul(which inhabits the puppet)

As I played through the game I actively thought about how I can’t wait for your theories about it! LOVE IT

I wonder if Scott ever watches mattpats theories while eating popcorn and laughing

credit matpat for these theories even if its right or wrong he really explore the whole fnaf lore keep it up man

I have a mini theory thats been in my head since I heard the tapes. I really havent seen anyone talk about it but I could very well be way behind on the lore here. I came to the conclusion that Glitchtrap is not the soul of william afton. And as far as I can tell the only evidence for it actually being william is purple bunny and murderous tendencies. But what if it were Baby? If vanessa is losing herself between Her own personality and Baby it would make sense for things like her eyes chanign color in the trailers to be relevant. The therapist line where she says that all the custody battle stuff was a lie and vanessa has wonderful parents would make sense, because it was actually her being possessed by baby, telling the story of the custody battle baby went through. Plus it kinda ties in to the william trash kaiju it was really baby behind it all along thing. I dont know. It makes sense to me.

The "I am sorry" part in fnaf 4 reminds me of another line in security breach where Gregory finds a "lame Mr. Hyppo magnet" and Freddy sais he is sorry in a way to strong way. I thought that was so random. Even Mark reacted to it in his playthrough. Quoting him: "Why do you say that like I'm about to die?"

I genuinely don't care it the theories are right or not I just love hearing them explained. I mean you gotta remember this entire channel is called game THEORY

Always remember, with this game series, there's no such thing as coincidence.

I feel like the perfect ending to this franchise would be a movie or animated series that shows the entire timeline. And it’s in chronological order, a straightforward answer would be nice.

Glad I saved this for when I was more awake. Really really appreciate you continuing to do theories on fnaf even though it's become such a bizarre and confusing franchise! Actually loved this theory, me and my friends when watching through fnaf said freddy was Michael and it was the son trying to fight back against his father's legacy, doing a little bit if possible (like we assumed pizzeria simulator was) but bloody loved this! Thank you for goin through all of the stuff possible for a theory matt, especially after the comments from the last theory, 😂

I love how my childhood into adult life has one long complicated story I get to follow without dedicating hours on end to hear

I could listen to MatPat deliver crackpot theories all day. Especially about FNAF. I genuinely love this channel.

Doesn’t one of the discs show how vannesa lied about having a bad family life? She actually had great parents.

*_I believe the main characters of FNaF 9: Security Breach are the Afton Family! I love your theories, MatPat! Brazil Sends Love! ;)_*

Mat will give all his night just to solve a mystery and put the amount of effort into it, it's worth watching

I'm glad this got on #1 on trending
This guy is a genius

Even after every FNAF theory MatPat has done these past years, it's still mind boggling how consistent he is at coming up with them

Just wanted to say that there is one more for Matpat to explain. In the fire ending, there are two Vanessas.

I think it would be pretty cool if matpat made a brand new timeline for fnaf

Matpat gotta be the reason why we know the fnaf lore very well

I only hopped on the Game Theory band wagon recently and its hard for me to make sense of the theories and characters but I still love every second of it

You know what would be funny, if the voice actor of Freddy Fazbear made a voice over on how many videos Mat has made for this francise.

I would say, it would definitely create a meme.

You know original I didn't believe the theory about Gregory but you doubled down and won me over with the explanation you gave

Put aside the theory for a minute and let's give notice to the hardwork and research and brainstorming needed to make this video

I love the theory! For me it all makes sense.

Not only did he apologize, but he continued to defend that theory.

Love how Matpat’s been doing fine with FNAF theories and THIS was the one that split the internet.

I loved how he cames out with these awesome theory's to keep us entertained! Great Job Matpat

Are we gonna talk about how Gregory was talking about “if I leave there would be more disappearances” every one just seems to skip over it

Gregory: Eating a yellow bear ice cream
Vanessa: Eating an ice cream similar to the one baby was going to give Elizabeth
Freddy: Damn this air really hits the spot

I love it, Thank you for these awesome fnaf and also other Theories, I cant wait to see what you got for the next fnaf Theories! :)

really happy he's actually clapping back on some of the dumb counters, he's normally pretty passive

Is it bad that I want to think of SB as a separate franchise then FNAF? SB is just a bit more special to me then the other games and it appears the be really wholesome if you think about Freddy and Gregory's relationship.

He finally did justice to this video. I too had a lot of conflictions in the last video. But now my mind is blown. Fantastic job matpat. Just fantastic

Matt- I look forward to your videos and they are the perfect amount of nostalgia, comfort, and interest in the content. I appreciate all you do and it has become an important part of my routine!!!

I agree that Gregory is at the very least a incarnation of the crying child, similar looks, the ice cream and the fact that Gregory's eyes are yellow like Fredbear. I just don't personally believe he is actually the crying child robot or not, I think the mannerisms and way FNaF 4 presents the crying child doesn't line up with how Gregory's behaviors is, CC is meek cowardly and TERRIFIED of animatronics while Gregory climbed inside of Freddy from the very start of the game something CC would definitely not do. Another reason I don't personally believe is that the robot aspect is a controversial area in the fandom that up until now has stay exclusive to the games. The points he makes are great but I just dont see it

Gregory: Eating a yellow bear ice cream
Vanessa: Eating an ice cream similar to the one baby was going to give Elizabeth
Freddy: Damn this air really hits the spot

Thank you so much for making these videos, it means so much for us. I know you put a lot of effort into these videos.

Mat, your theories are honestly so incredible and creative and I don’t care if they are “correct” or “incorrect” you and your team try so hard to make these theories and we are all so grateful for that, thank you so much.

I felt like that theory was already solid, but now it makes a lot of sense. Matpat, you're our superstar.

Honestly he makes the best theory's and I love them

You missed a crucial detail in the therapy CDs: The therapist did a background check on Vanessa’s parents and found that they were still married and loved each other very much. In fact, Vanessa’s childhood was picture-perfect. Everything she said about that messy custody battle was a lie.

Hey GT just wanted to thank all of you for these lore vids!!

I hate and love how everything he says makes sense. Thanks for the theory, Matt!

What an amazing theory. Not just a clever clapback, but an almost nostalgic Game Theory video based on the energy alone. Loved this a lot, y'all. Great job lol

I love Mat for doubling down. It’s not his fault the lore makes no sense. He didn’t create it, he’s just trying to put it together.

So Vanessa well Vanny following Glitchtrap's order is in a way similar to young Vanessa following her father's order during the court trial. Guess William Afton really made her daughter do what she's told to.

Shout out to matpat
He really just doesn't care about haters go on,legend!

There's still one question I'd like to ask about your theory about Gregory. If he were a robot, wouldn't he have been affected by William Afton's hacking the same as Freddy?

Oh my gosh! There is just so much to process, inspect, brush aside, string together-- ah! 😫
Thank you Theorist Team SO MUCH for going through all of this and putting in the effort to create theories in order to make whatever sense of the timeline one can. Whether it ends u being right on the money, leagues away from the truth, or stuck in some weird middle ground, these are always so interesting, engaging, and well thought out!
Thank you Theorist Team!!!

I felt like that theory was already solid, but now it makes a lot of sense. Matpat, you're our superstar.

That Intro Was Cringe, But Great Video Explaining The Theory Lore, Great Job Matpat!

Mat I just wanna say if you see this that I wanna say thank you for making my childhood so special with all your theories it made me appreciate other game lore thx man even if I don't agree with your theories I couldn't hate you

A couple things regarding the Vanessa/Baby parallels;

Firstly,
One of the CDs says that upon a background check, everything Vanessa said about her history - all the manipulation, her mother's fate, et cetera, was a lie.
My thought is,
If Vanessa is someone POSSESSED by Elizabeth, then perhaps that's why. In Vanessa's body, Elizabeth tells Elizabeth's history, and when they do a background check on Vanessa, it comes up as lies. So all that about "Bill," The Manipulation, Mrs. A's mysterious fate? All Elizabeth talking.
Another interesting point, is that Baby and Vanessa are both voiced by Heather Masters (Might've remembered her name wrong there, but not the point) despite the fact that they would've DEFINITELY had the money to hire a different V.A. if they wanted.

But to play Devil's Advocate, and go AGAINST the "Vanessa is Elizabeth" theory,
The talk about manipulation from her dad and the other lies about her past to her therapist might've been Vanessa's subconscious Trying to alert someone about Glitchtrap - William manipulating Vanessa into doing bad things.

Matpats theories might not always sound perfect at first
But now 2 episodes in its slowly starting to become a bit clearer. Great episode

When you realize the definition of a Theory is an educated guess, and you can't take Matpat down.

These are the videos I always like the most because you can tell Mat actually knows the lore and puts a lot of work into it. (It is often glaringly obvious when he just dipped his toes in other games, as his theories and lack of research shows).

I like your theories. Thank you, for real. Your theories make my evenings.

Don't get me wrong, these theories make the most sense with what we're presented, but Mat does not point out that later in the tapes the therapist states that Vanessa lied about her family and the custody battle. This reads to me like Vanessa is her own person, but they do constantly mention she's being manipulated in the messages she receives. So maybe in some twisted way glitch trap is trying to get her to believe she is Elizabeth to either make her more compliant or to just feel a connection with his daughter again? I'm just throwing it out there since everything is so vague that anything is possible at this point 🤷‍♀️

I want to add something I've been wondering about Gregory's robo-vision idea. When Moon shows up, Gregory's eyes get a filter on to indicate "it's dark now". The pizzaplex should just look unlit to him if he was a normal child, but instead it's a filter with sparkly stars. This is a visual clue that could be written off as just a part of the game design for gameplay's sake, but coincidences are pretty rare in this franchise.

I feel bad that MatPat gets absolutely slandered for his theories. These are very entertaining to watch. Whether right or wrong, there are different way to tell him he's wrong besides banishing him to twitter hell. Keep making these theories Mat. They're Great.

Gregory is confused by a CD when he collects it and calls it "this...disk..thing,". He says "it looks old". If i'm right, CDs became common in 1982, meaning the crying child should probably know what they are.

Though the some of your theories seem a little unrealistic, I can still respect every single video you make
The effort and the research put into all of them is just mind blowing

Also Music man is indeed a great character

I love your videos MatPat, so descriptive and lots of evidence to support your arguments and theory. And I love FNaF’s theories- mostly because I’m obsessed with the franchise. Keep up the great work 😃

The “I’m sorry” part in FNAF 4 reminds me of another line in Security Breach, where Gregory finds a “lame Mr. Hyppo magnet” and Freddy says he’s sorry in a way that’s way too strong. I thought that was so random, and even Mark reacted to it in his playthrough saying, “Why do you say that like I’m about to die?” 💖💖💖

Not only did he apologize, but he continued to defend that theory. This is why I love this channel

The one thing i'm still looking for to be answered and that really intrigues me is the one line that vanny keeps repeating and seems to be her signature line.

Why this one? Why is her dialogue so limited? Even if she's just taken over by a rogue AI i feel like there has to be a meaning to that specific line.

He puts so much effort proving these theory’s and a LOT of these theory’s are right even if there wrong the mat and his team is still going

It's nice to see Matt taking the backlash so well now compared to in the past. He's definitely come a long way since the "Sans is Ness" thing.
I personally don't really care whether or not the theories are "correct" or anything, I just like watching the videos.

Gotta love how this all started with a popular indie horror game

How is Matpat still sane after making this many FNAF theories? Matpat ever gives up! Instead of ruining my childhood since 2011, for me it’s making my childhood since 2011! Matpat is amazing!

I'm Just happy for theories; no matter what conclusions to be drawn out or dead ends to be found, it's all wonderful.

Even if “bleeding” was what they really wanted to use, and they changed it to make it more acceptable for a younger audience, they chose to change it to broken, not to something like injured.

#1 on trending, way to go MatPat.

Not only does Greg get CRT lines but when you “die” the screen goes fuzzy like a loss of signal.

I always saw theories as fun thought experiments based on the rules, evidence, and given lore of a media, whether loosely or to the letter. But I never saw it as something that had to absolutely had to be true. It was just something fun and goofy to argue about with friends. So I don't really understand why someone would get mad about it. It's just someone's preferred head cannon. Even if I don't agree with it, it's just fun to see something I like through someone else's eyes. Maybe that's just me.

Glad to see that Kel finally made it into Game Theory.

I like the theory, would be nice to see some form of the Afton kids get a happy ending together

I just want to know about the dodgy hiring process. It seems most night guards for these pizza places always get hired under dubious circumstances? Because don't you get to know through texts in the game that she was recommended by someone in the company and hired immediately?

I love the robot/crying child theory because ther'e's also the jumpscares. It look like kid or woman screams. But When it's with Roxy and Vanny, it sounds like a broken machine or a bugging scream with scratching voice. It can't be the voice of the animatronic because Roxy don't have any problems with her voice box so i don't think this is a coincidence. (Also, in the trailer, the jumpscare of Vanny looks like a metalic scream so I don't thnk it has been made random)

To be fair on Mark's part, he did later say that he was a nerd too and would've picked golf if he'd been there in real life. xD

I'm fairly convinced that Gregory might be an Afton too. Though not quite convinced he's a robot. Just cause of how Gregory is Afraid for many things in there. I'm still hoping there's going to be more content to the game that they might still add. Although with Vanny's encounters, it does sorta make sense too. I just still lean to uncertain.

watching this at 3 am was a bad idea man, just finished a 7 page reading guide and some exams so my brain is toast
my mind just did not comprehend anything mat just said
loved the theory tho

I feel almost bad for MatPad. He just has to keep putting out those theories because everyone expects it from him.
Honestly, I'm really sorry for him that he has to play and analyse this rushed garbage game. I don't there is an actual story in this game.
I think it's just rushed out the windows without much thought. But they threw a lot of "stuff" in that game. Because why should they actually care about making the story interesting?
The theory community is going to do that for them. You can basically see it in MatPads last 2 videos.
He is grasping at straws just to get SOMETHING out. And in doing so, he makes the game look a lot more interesting than it actually is.
But the sad thing is...his theorys about SB have a lot less ground to stand on than his other FNAF theorys so far.
Honestly, it really makes me feel bad. So much effort put into those videos about a bad game.
I was so hyped for SB and his theorys. What a disappointment.

I think you’re right but the other therapy patient, patient 46, could be Vanny, Vanessa’s alter ego.

the evidence he provided is definitely stronger than whatever counter argument one might have regarding the gregbot theory, and the bitten off ice cream cements it (or at the VERY least the parallels between greg and CC) in a nearly indisputable way. also, everybody has their own opinions theyre entitled to and the memes were funny, but can we at the very least appreciate how he managed to make a valid theory out of a /clearly/ unfinished game whose story was /clearly/ changed at the last second? cmon now

the nail in the coffin for me is that they've already made human-like androids in the book... multiple times. if he's already done it before in the franchise, makes sense for him to bring that lore to the games.

Can we just thank Yoda for keeping the FNAF theory playlist updated

I know the FNAF franchise is such a big part of game theory and I respect MatPat's dedication to the cause, but honestly if the series keeps flying off the rails I wouldn't be upset if it got the Hello Neighbour treatment

God I love these theories; even if they're wrong the logic is correct and fun to see laid out. I just wanna know what Vanny is; is it Vanessa in a bunny suit? Is it an animatronic? Is it a spirit? Is it secretly Elizabeth merging with parts of Vanessa? WHO KNOWS! I shall await Matt's answers!

Whether you like the theories or not, just realize that he has put a lot of effort into this. And that he and his team are amazing and that he is still doing strong like 11 years later. Thanks MatPat for everything!

Oh, boi… This franchise always gets more difficult with each new peace of content.😐

Its not a mistake ✨️ ITS A MASTERPIECE

Amazing theory btw but I just wanna say a few things about the whole gregory robot thing : I honestly think that the effect is just for effect, I think that Vanny's suit is designed specifically to not show up on animatronic eyes. The reason why Freddy says Gregory looks weird is because the eyes are like Xrays, meaning Freddy could probably see Gregory's bones and maybe guts. Just had this idea. Love your theorys even tho they may not be true!

Dude, i have watched every single fnaf vid that you maade so far, and i gotta say, this is the best series ever