Thoughty2, Bad Music & The Decline of the Pop Song - My Response

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  • Leo Rivas
    Leo Rivas 2 дня назад

    I wonder, if Thoughty2' video was based on a certain paper, why didn't you debunk the paper instead? Your not liking "Aaron" contaminates the meaning of your analysis.

  • Dunzo Donalds
    Dunzo Donalds 2 дня назад

    @7:25 written by Donald Marshall...

  • Jake Kilka
    Jake Kilka 3 дня назад

    That's actually lumber in your images. Timber means wood waiting to be processed.

  • RetroAdzz
    RetroAdzz 3 дня назад

    C'mon, just listen to modern music. As a driver I listen to the radio for about 3 hours a day. Everything he said makes totally sense to me. Only a fool would disagree that music today is better then music from yester year, which was the whole point he was trying to get across

  • Elijah Ford
    Elijah Ford 4 дня назад

    I don’t despise the use of electronic instramentation like some people, but I do think it’s bad that it dominates the industry so much.

  • Elijah Ford
    Elijah Ford 4 дня назад

    Music is pretty subjective

  • RaumklanG Studio
    RaumklanG Studio 5 дней назад

    greetings from Dessau, home of the Bauhaus. :)

  • Fabulous_Squidward
    Fabulous_Squidward 6 дней назад +1

    have you heard of animal collective? they're a band pretty much just for people who like saying I'd be interested to hear the opinion of someone who knows something about music theory. in music. i personally find them goddamned ear grating.. I'd be interested in the opinion of someone who understands music theory.

  • MegaDh23
    MegaDh23 7 дней назад

    0:11 Tanta saying "Lemons" really pleases me for no real reason.

  • Tyestor
    Tyestor 8 дней назад +1

    your videos are fucking awesome. please make more.

  • Decker
    Decker 8 дней назад +1

    Broski why you gotta criticize other people’s content like it’s chill just make the content you wanna make

  • Stan Bondarev
    Stan Bondarev 9 дней назад

    Tantacrul
    I like that Thoughty2's video because it's provocative. Really, when i saw it I knew that there're tons of music and new music created more and more that are not the 'pop' but very interesting and complex. The main question (as for me) is how someone newbie could reach those 'not mainstream genres' especially inside a society of people with bad or no taste of music? For example in my city majority of radio-stations play the same two hundreds songs (in its particular genre) for at least twenty years, and other radio play the same hundred songs "popular" "this year". I had to make a lot efforts to realize and discover musics that are really of my taste. And no one around me listens to such stuff and even knows those artists. And yet that moment I discovered the absence of boundaries between music genres (in space and time as well) -- everything is within continuous spectrum between pure harmony and white noise.
    So I'm agree with you: truth (about musics evolution and state-of-the-art) is on your side, but the discussion should be (permanent). And Thoughty2 has brought this discussion to million people (I hope) and maybe even brought me to your channel!-)

  • Melissa Melissima
    Melissa Melissima 11 дней назад

    I like Irish people

  • white rabbit
    white rabbit 11 дней назад

    Just because you don't do a particularly thing doesn't mean you can't criticize it

  • PoochyVagina
    PoochyVagina 11 дней назад +1

    hey, i remember watching that video a while back and it smelled like bullshit right away, even though i was too dumb to point out exactly why i didn't believe in any of it. maybe it was that arched eyebrow of his... anyway, thanks for clearing that up!

  • Maziar Tologhamari
    Maziar Tologhamari 12 дней назад

    I mean you easily make the case for songs that make it top 100, they simply follow a trend ( as in 2019 is electronic base line) like Dup Liba electricity and thank you next by Ariana Grande. So his point is not 100 percent wrong but he brings such a shitty argument to the table. Our music is more and more influenced by mass marketing and general public rather than actual fair show of talent. There are plenty of kids who never get a platform to shine but Shawn Mendes gets to have his new album dedicated to another girl ( or ex). Good music must make people feel and current top chart just makes me feel like a chimpanzee and want to take my headphones off to stop the bleeding

  • 12tone
    12tone 14 дней назад

    I am dead and Arnold Skoenberg killed me.

  • TacticusPrime
    TacticusPrime 16 дней назад

    To be fair, I've always hated that Prince song.

  • huruey
    huruey 16 дней назад

    I've tried to subscribe to you again far too many times now. That's a very compelling jingle.

  • Harry Hildebrandt
    Harry Hildebrandt 16 дней назад

    It's going down, I'm yelling t á m b r e.

  • Shane Moorhead
    Shane Moorhead 17 дней назад

    ...that's a lot of pictures of wood....Your production and commentary top notch....would love to see you channel your observations in a more positive light

  • sputnut
    sputnut 17 дней назад +1

    Regardless, new music sucks.

  • Jefferson Montoya
    Jefferson Montoya 17 дней назад +1

    While I am of the opinion that music is getting worse, it's far more repetitive, it is linguistically remedial etc, I enjoyed this video. I had some of these same thoughts about Thought2's piece. Well done.

  • PSGTalks
    PSGTalks 17 дней назад

    Some little poof clearly likes Katy Perry

  • Robin Abresch
    Robin Abresch 19 дней назад

    Just as a sidenote, I fu'kin haaaate the retro left center right mixing technique.
    Stereo mixing and the loudness wars were just painful.

  • Tarmo Tyyri
    Tarmo Tyyri 19 дней назад +1

    POP music has always been pretty awful, but is constantly getting worse, i.e. repetitive, simplistic, and void of creativity. P.S. Timbre (not timber) is the color or tone of the sound, which you obviously didn't know as you listen to POP music.

  • Jacob Smollet
    Jacob Smollet 19 дней назад

    stream timber by kesha

  • Alex Finale
    Alex Finale 22 дня назад +1

    One little interesting detail, most good musicians and producers when asked will say that yes, music quality and complexity has declined, while most people claiming it isn't so are not musicians or are mediocre musicians, something to ponder, I ask the maker of this video, are you a musician or producer, and how good are you.
    I ask the same question to those in the comment section that are saying musichasn't declined.

  • Flutters
    Flutters 22 дня назад +1

    Music, like all forms of art, is subjective. Therefor no era is better or worse than another. People like different things, and that's all of it.

    • Alex Finale
      Alex Finale 22 дня назад +1

      Flutters, while you are right that art is subjective and tastes vary, it is possible to see difference in complexity in all types of art, not just music, and complexity is one of the markers that can be used to determine quality or sofistication in art, I can make a song with two chords that sounds cool, but when you listen to it next to Bohemian Rhapsody you will agree one is clearly better than the other, it doesn't matter that maybe some weirdo might preffer my two chord song.

  • Stefaan Himpe
    Stefaan Himpe 23 дня назад

    Timber is overrated. Weren't the fathers of Hansel and Gretel and Tom Thumb executive assistant timbral managers? And we all know what that led to... The best part starts at 17:36 though. I demand to hear the TRUTH about this villain skowenburgh!!!

  • Kris Feng
    Kris Feng 25 дней назад

    Metal for the win!!!!!

  • Davia Sturgis
    Davia Sturgis 26 дней назад

    You aren't forgiven

  • folkcalledfolk
    folkcalledfolk 26 дней назад

    So glad someone made this video

  • MZZA
    MZZA 26 дней назад

    I called him out in the comments for these same points and got called a retard multiple times.

    • MZZA
      MZZA 4 дня назад

      +dooder ey! fuk u man!

    • dooder
      dooder 4 дня назад

      Here, have another, retard.

  • DarkRedman31
    DarkRedman31 26 дней назад

    That's funny you make a lot of mistakes writing timbre (not timber) which has nothing to do with wood, (why the heck you don't stop showing images that nas nothing to do with music but wood ?!)
    On what is based your graph that compare the genres used by the algorithm to "all the types of genres" okay you show a Venn diagram but still, this is subjectif not a fact. I'd personnally not see as much genre that exists (not to confuse with subgenres). So yes timbre diversity can define the quality of a music, note that in the music world of analogue that you mention, it's very rare that an artist just use a sine wave, and the track of Aphex Twin you mention, you can really hear a lof of different timbre. And no harmonics doesn't remove the fundamental pitch, you should check how sound work, what's the fourrier tranform and other thesis are, and by the way harmonic is a synonym of overtone ... and if you mention guitar harmonics it's just that their fundamental have a much higher pitch, but there can't be harmonics/overtones without fundamental, that's a basic law to know in music.
    I stop there because your arguments about sampler and computer software (yes) are as stupid, so back to the basics first.

  • freegameskidsteens
    freegameskidsteens 27 дней назад

    That guy is so fucking smug and annoying lol

  • Rowan Phantasmal
    Rowan Phantasmal 27 дней назад

    Man this Tantacrul Cunt is as bitter as Radiator Fluid.
    He's emotionally disturbed by Clickbait!

  • Ben Huang
    Ben Huang 27 дней назад

    Whenever someone preaches about how awful modern music is, I dismiss it as just another "Stop liking things that I don't like!" argument.

  • Animesh
    Animesh 27 дней назад +1

    Thank god this video popped up on my recommended. I really wanted to a hear a different opinion and analysis on thoughty 2s video.

  • Ahmed Alian
    Ahmed Alian 28 дней назад

    Not that thoughty2 is correct at all (he isnt), but this is a faulty counter argument.. Something about the points you decided to tackle felt off. Especially the bit about harmonic complexity. It felt like you addressed something completely different with the example of the resolving minor cliche & the 5-4-3-2-1 progression. Just my thoughts

  • yogi bear
    yogi bear 28 дней назад +1

    the only people I know who listen to pop music are attractive young girls and I don't know why, most guys I know listen to at least one or two weird subgenres of music

  • Pedro Dinis
    Pedro Dinis 28 дней назад +1

    That point about buying records and "not appreciating" the music was also made when the first recording technology was invented. An example of juvenoia (juvenoia isn't exactly this but I'm sure you'll understand what I mean).

  • Erik Stigter
    Erik Stigter 29 дней назад +1

    I came back to this video for some reason..
    The maker of the video sounds and quite possibly is a dick.
    First of, he's talking about mainstream pop being dulled down, not music in general.. something that is factually proven by this point.
    the iPod launched digital music players into mainstream, until then it was still quite a niche branch.. so sure, there had been others but not to the overall success that the iPod had, and especially not to the point of making other mediums go extinct..
    Calling Napster, an illegal peer to peer download software program, a streaming service seems ridiculous to me. Or are you talking about Rhapsody repackaged into Napster..
    Again though, it was definitely not these fellows to take music streaming onto the main public.
    Rave culture in the 90's was not mainstream, was definitely not sophisticated and highly reliant on the heavy bass.
    Also, having to rant on about his pronunciation of the word 'timbre' seems unnecessary.
    I might agree it is hard to justify either side of this argument, I just though you put in a real weak effort to discredit one side of the debate.

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    Gav E 29 дней назад

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  • Eduardo Puccini
    Eduardo Puccini Месяц назад +2

    THEY'RE KILLING THE TIMBREEEEE

  • Jazzy Jay
    Jazzy Jay Месяц назад

    Ok this video was pretty good however the timbre joke got old fast

  • Harry Dean
    Harry Dean Месяц назад

    So thankful for this video, after watching thoughty2 spout out utter bull about other peoples incorrect opinions it's so nice to hear someone who actually knows his stuff. well done !

  • ORO 0147
    ORO 0147 Месяц назад +1

    It's pretty freaking incredible how well documented this video was when you only had 7k subs!

  • Slappy
    Slappy Месяц назад +1

    I couldn't hear the part where you actually critiqued the points in his video. I guess it was buried somewhere in your petty ad-hominem attacks, which I mostly tuned out.

  • Cultists of Neptune
    Cultists of Neptune Месяц назад

    Of course musical quality is subjective. By definition, even. Subjective, adj: "based on or influenced by personal feelings, tastes, or opinions; existing in the mind". Quality is subjective and quantity is objective, so that's that. You want more? Music is just an arrangement of sounds without inherent goodness or badness; it is only when processed through the subjective biases of the human mind do we ascribe it those qualitative properties. If music were objective we could measure it using non-subjective tools, like a scale measuring weights. Instead what we have is a bunch of self-proclaimed objectivists who only use their subjective feelings, tastes, and opinions to cast judgment on music authoritatively and arrogantly. Shockingly, these objectivists never seem to agree on what is actually objectively good or bad. So you can yammer on until you're blue in the face about how influential Bach was, but at the end of the day that doesn't make him better. That's just you subjectively declaring that being influential matters to quality. To deny that music is subjective is to deny the very definition of the words involved in this pathetic excuse for a debate.
    taken from here: rateyourmusic.com/list/Carcinogeneticist/objectivity-vs-subjectivity-in-music-the-ultimate-guide-and-solution/

  • Croissants for thought
    Croissants for thought Месяц назад +1

    After this video I conveniced that you are the "Colosal Is Crazy" of music.

  • TheDash456
    TheDash456 Месяц назад +1

    Schweppes? Never heard of them. We have Minute Maid in America though. But you’re right about the lemon theory.

  • Toby Roberts
    Toby Roberts Месяц назад +1

    Thoughty2 makes some great videos. I'm sorry but this video is over the top and uncalled for. I liked some of your other videos but very disappointed with this one.

  • Firewall Dragon
    Firewall Dragon Месяц назад +1

    I do believe that music is declining. But not for the reasons that idiot was talking about. Music is declining because of a lack of originality. All the songs on the radio sound exactly the same and all the lyrics are very repetitive. That is my problem with modern popular music.

    • dooder
      dooder 4 дня назад

      That's partially what Thoughty2 was addressing.

  • Kennet
    Kennet Месяц назад +1

    10:18 Moldova's entry for Eurovision Song Contest 2018.

  • Jinxed Violynne
    Jinxed Violynne Месяц назад

    What a horrible video. I came to watch to see the "other side" of Thoughty2's video, and what we get is a smart ass who has nothing but idiotic statements as a defense.
    LOUDNESS IS RUINING MUSIC. To defend this means you're an idiot. It's one thing to use it as part of a song, but to literally wrap its distortion from beginning to end is asinine. Even people who are "victims" (the youth) are aware too much loudness ruins music.
    This is Thoughty2's primary defense on "music is getting worse". And he's right. Science has also proven this to be right, because, and dare logic enter this debate, *when the music is drowned out by deliberate deep ranges, it's impossible to hear other sounds*.
    Don't take my word for it: go stand next to an airport as a jetliner is about to take off. The very decibels coming from an engine are so loud, it *literally* warps the sound around it because it impacts sound waves.
    The demo provided in his video *clearly* shows this to be true.
    Yet you dispute this because your knickers got twisted.
    There's only one reasonable defense you can offer against his video: you're deaf or have severe hearing problems.
    For that, you actually have my appreciation you're lucky to not have to experience the garbage being shoved though 192k poorly compressed mp3s being called "music".

  • Jay Williams
    Jay Williams Месяц назад

    Define 'getting worse'. If that means less complex then sure in some cases and not in others. If you mean how much the music appeals to the majority of people. Absolutely not.

  • BiggieTrismegistus
    BiggieTrismegistus Месяц назад +1

    The problem with Thoughty2's argument is trying to make it sound like pop music today is objectively bad when it's just different. If he had just said "here are some things that have changed over the years and they may account for why you don't like newer music much" he would have been much better off. His video would still make a number of questionable claims but I think there would at least be something valid there overall. Another thing people don't realize is there has always been crappy music but over time it gets forgotten and the good stuff is what still gets listened too. It's not like 60s were a decade where the top 10 was made up of nothing but The Beatles, The Rolling Stones, The Beach Boys, all the Motown acts, Bob Dylan, James Brown, Creedence Clearwater Revival, The Byrds, Aretha Franklin and all the other classic acts that are held in such high esteem. There was a lot of junk that feel off the charts and was largely ignored thereafter. I also think you undersold how much the Loudness War effects how things sound today, especially for people who didn't grow up listening to music that's so compressed. To my ears, rock music today is just too damned LOUD. All the songs end up sounding like an unpleasant blast of white noise.

  • Michael Rocha
    Michael Rocha Месяц назад +1

    9:50 to 10:08 can be done with a Rick Sanchez voice

  • eJacob Cornelius
    eJacob Cornelius Месяц назад +1

    Prince: 5:35

  • Manadono
    Manadono Месяц назад +1

    bro, is that jumbo's in leeds?

  • Hayden Fleetwood
    Hayden Fleetwood Месяц назад +1

    The only reason I got into music was basically Apple Music without it I’d still be listening to the chart

  • Googol 257
    Googol 257 Месяц назад +1

    This is actually such a good video

  • Googol 257
    Googol 257 Месяц назад +1

    Sometimes I can’t tell which one of you is talking.

  • Marcelo Bassalo
    Marcelo Bassalo Месяц назад

    Are you sure that falsetto doesn`t have a fundamental ?

  • socially inept spider-man
    socially inept spider-man Месяц назад

    Heh when we have indie artists like Jacob lee my faith in music is not gone yet

  • Rachel Matthew
    Rachel Matthew Месяц назад

    Why is this guy so trigeered?

  • Apollon
    Apollon Месяц назад

    Well, if the ipod ruined our appreciation of albums, what about mixtape cassettes? Huh, mr. thoughty2? Huh?

  • Ever Wanderer
    Ever Wanderer Месяц назад

    Funny. The music in and of itself isn't really dying. There are still composers creating classical pieces, there are still great hard rock, rock and roll, blues, country and the like artists at work (I know of lots of examples here in Spain alone). And that's talking about both the genres I like and the ones that people tend to associate with a huge nostalgia for mid-20th Century music.
    I'd argue that the cultural market is somewhat oversaturated and formulaic in many aspects, but comparing people like Bob Dylan, Led Zeppelin or Black Sabbath, for example, to David Ghetta or Justin Bieber is biased and dangerous. True, publicity and marketing leans towards certain formulas that seem to reach a wider public, but comparison should be made among genres, in my opinion. Therefore, you could compare people like Johnny Cash and The White Buffalo, or Bob Dylan and Langhorne Slim... or Led Zeppelin and The Brew, or Greta Van Fleet. It's just a matter of research.
    I am a huge hard rock and blues fan, and I honestly dislike modern genres, but I wouldn't go ahead and say "music has gotten worse". It's just that the general public has leaned towards musical genres and styles that I personally don't align with. I'm not forced to listen to it, and I don't believe by any stretch of the imagination that the musical landscape is as narrow as this guy tries to imply. Just like blues in its time, or rock and roll after that, many musical genres that so called "purists" lean towards have simply gone a bit more underground, and require a little bit more of dedication to be found. In the end, it's not about the artists: it's about the public. Musical industry relies on statistics and data to decide what to promote and what to ignore, but it doesn't mean that artists are continuously ignoring or bashing on supposedly better genres. It just means that a big chunk of the public is lazy and doesn't explore the musical landscape, instead relying on what is given to them on a daily basis (on the radio, movies, etc.), therefore leading to a formulaic industry that churns a sort-of factory-produced music.
    This, again, doesn't imply that the mainstream music is worse. It's just different. Mind you, when rock and roll came out and became the musical mainstream, many "purists" bashed on it and considered it worse compared to jazz, country or even blues. We have to keep in mind, though, that even today, that doesn't mean that country, jazz or blues have died. The rise of pop, techno, reggaeton and stuff like that doesn't imply that former genres are destined to die out, it just implies that the public grows narrower for them and they are a bit harder to come by.

  • Jack Duelisis
    Jack Duelisis Месяц назад

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Billboard_Hot_100_chart_achievements_by_decade Can you see a pattern now ?

  • Jack Duelisis
    Jack Duelisis Месяц назад

    A lot of what the original presentation, with all the little mistakes makes actually a lot of sense and is ground for an educated discussion and debate. I don't agree with everything of it, of course, but a lot of what was described is actually making sense. Your counter argumentation ... well ... I would say : start being less childish, it wouldn't hurt. And you lost me on loudness : yes loudness war and over limiting is destructive to the sound, creates harmonic distortion and kills 3 dimensional sound. The quality of many of the recording tools didn't improve at all since the 60's. Yes digital limiting helps making a track "louder" but don't you ever think it is not detrimental to the quality of the final product ... I could go on and on, but your timber ... I mean ... huh ... your tone is too annoying, I cannot finish the vid ... son ;)

  • Knight of the Old Code
    Knight of the Old Code Месяц назад +1

    Is that the Eurovision song from Moldova in the background?

  • Afrotron
    Afrotron Месяц назад

    You missed the point pro.

  • Gleep Wurp
    Gleep Wurp Месяц назад +4

    Yes there is the Mainstream, it is called the Top 40. That is what he was referring to as Modern Music. There is still a lot of great music being made outside of what's played on radio. But there was a time when the Top 40 (Mainstream Modern Music) was art. Btw, the running timbre joke was tiresome.

  • Sauce_Aux
    Sauce_Aux Месяц назад +1

    “Timberal” hahahahahaha
    And also - good move on the cymru beats 👌🏽👌🏽👌🏽👌🏽

  • David Aston
    David Aston Месяц назад +7

    Terrible job? The opinion of modern music being shit today isn't just the opinion of older people but young people themselves who are big fans of music from 20 to 60 years ago.
    Compare the freshness of past music and how well it's last compared to today's and that's all the proof you need.
    Thought2 was quoting from studies conducted by science and musically informed people. Are they ALL WRONG as well?
    And HE WASN'T MOCKING or attack people who like today's music in the way you've acted like a immature moron at times in this video.
    QUESTION: How many of the acts around to day are still going to be shifting huge volumes of their music in 30 to 50 years like the Beatles, Rolling Stones, Abba, Oasis or others?

    • Zach W.
      Zach W. 4 дня назад

      +dooder I feel like the thoughty2 video is simply making a statement of "I, Aaron, like this music better than that music for my own personal reasons" and then coming up with arguments about why it's objectively better after the fact, which don't really work when you extend them beyond a comparison between the Beatles and Ke$ha.

    • Zach W.
      Zach W. 4 дня назад

      +dooder what's your point? All I'm trying to say is that you can claim that the Beatles or whatever pop act from the late 20th century is better than a pop act from the 21st century because they have more "timbral diversity" or more complex harmony, but there are other styles which must be, by the same logic, better than the Beatles because they are more diverse in timbre, or have more complex harmony.
      But of course that isn't true either because you can't make quantitative judgements like that about the quality of music.

    • dooder
      dooder 4 дня назад

      +Zach W. I call bullshit. Every time a new wave of music really took music by storm is when the timbral diversity was changed. Mostly how new sounds were introduced like in samples, heavier distortion, digital synths. It's really kind of stupid to compare a string quartet or an orchestra to pop music because the melodies and intents for each genre are completely different.

    • Zach W.
      Zach W. 13 дней назад

      +Sophisticated Nebula eh, my comment was long winded and asshole-y, I just don't like the way that Thoughty2 and others rely on that study to tell people how their own taste in music is superior

    • Sophisticated Nebula
      Sophisticated Nebula 13 дней назад

      +Zach W. You have positively "wrecked" my comment.... Doesn't feel that great.
      But it's always good to learn.

  • Jo Pestorius
    Jo Pestorius Месяц назад +1

    I honestly somewhat dislike the classical era of music, precisely because of it's simplicity and formality.

  • Jehan Gonsalkorale
    Jehan Gonsalkorale Месяц назад

    I largely agree and love this very informative vid. I watched the Thoughty2 video and didn't think much of it but wasn't entirely paying attention either. On reflection, you take down all the nonsense very well. However, I still think the study is pretty good. It only looks to see whether there are aggregate level trends in music that can be identified through a fairly rough approach. It certainly doesn't capture the nuances you mention, I just think it shouldn't be expected to. As for loudness, the loudness wars did see compression overused to people's attention but there was also the natural increase in volume from better compression. Just a caveat to your point. But otherwise I do agree. You can't criticise oranges for not tasting like nor having the texture of apples.

  • Måns Gezelius
    Måns Gezelius Месяц назад

    This is amazingly well put together! It's a shame how Thoughty2 attracts so much attention with easy-to-digest yet faulty reasoning. Even if the viewer is not familiar with music theory, juvenoia always hits home and I can't think of a better example than XKCD's "The Pace of Modern Life". xkcd.com/1227/

  • CNN Blackmail Support
    CNN Blackmail Support Месяц назад

    That pause... savage. This is savage. You are a savage. The timbre of this video is savage.
    I love it.

  • Parablebox
    Parablebox Месяц назад +1

    Love this video, dude. Keep it up!

  • TheOrangepeak
    TheOrangepeak Месяц назад +1

    This summer I did a VI IV I V chord progression just for fun, it happened to be my best song, according to everyone....do I have to feel ashamed ?

    • TheOrangepeak
      TheOrangepeak Месяц назад

      +Tantacrul I used subtractive synthesis so I'm not sure what to think ; at the beigining I had a rich timber for sure ;) but this story is really true ! However I don't feel ashamed beause the structure and the leads are way more advanced than the chord progression if that makes sens, also it's not pop it's acid house/ electro so it's the music I love, I will never be ashamed :p cheers from france :)

    • Tantacrul
      Tantacrul  Месяц назад

      Depends on how much timber you put in there. ;P

  • Joe Hoffmann
    Joe Hoffmann Месяц назад

    Doesn't it suck that idiots with lazy personal opinions that they don't bother to check against reality draw such throngs of like-minded idiots?

  • Stuart Garlick
    Stuart Garlick Месяц назад +1

    Nice use of the Moldovan Eurovision entry from 2018 as your soundtrack.

  • Rowe 4900 Snack Candy Vending Machine
    Rowe 4900 Snack Candy Vending Machine Месяц назад +1

    Wait that voice, it sounds familiar *pulls off scooby doo monster mask* PAUL JOSEPH WATSON!?!?!?!!?

  • Vi B
    Vi B Месяц назад

    its a hit job video ..I think your jealous you didn't do it..oh and despite the rebuttal music is still shyt

  • BaBa
    BaBa Месяц назад +1

    but what about Liszt and Chopin

    • Tantacrul
      Tantacrul  Месяц назад

      I'm listening...

  • Fraser Smith
    Fraser Smith Месяц назад +1

    Comparing zeppelin to gaga is one of the worst comparisons I’ve ever heard. Gaga writes original music instead of stealing her ideas from blues and jazz musicians

  • Patric Currie
    Patric Currie Месяц назад +2

    Why are you hating on this Thoughtly dude so much? He has way more views to you, so your general attitude toward him makes you sound jealous and takes away from the point you're trying to make. Also, some of the things that you gave him shit for were misleading. The fact that two people wrote a tenth of today's popular is impressive, that's a huge percent written by just two people. And also, why give him shit for the Ipod thing? No one really knew about mp3s before the Ipod, so I'm not sure what point you're trying to make by calling out such a small detail seeing how it doesn't really have anything to do with the point he was trying to make. You can call out his inaccuracies without sounding super insecure. And people really don't give much thought into what their listening to unless they have a passion for music or are musicians themselves. I totally agree with most of what you said, but it would have been 5 times better without all the snarkiness.

    • Patric Currie
      Patric Currie Месяц назад

      +Tantacrul I don't know anything about the other guy. I'm sure you're right though, he seems to rely heavily on sensationalism to get views. I honestly just found the feel of the video a little off-putting. I like your channel though. Subscribed and all that. Just as someone who had no premise for either of your guys' content, I didn't understand the hate.

    • Tantacrul
      Tantacrul  Месяц назад

      Just a difference of taste in style I guess. I detest this guy because his content is absurdly un-researched and wildly inaccurate. It's a disgrace how happy he is to trot out ideas that he barely takes the time to understand. Not to mention his choice of thumbnails are highly misogynistic, so... he's a valid target in my view and deserving of ridicule. That said, this is not a type of video I'll be doing often. It't not really something I want to get into - reaction videos and all that.

  • APaleDot
    APaleDot Месяц назад

    To be fair, Classical music is shit compared to Baroque.

  • Anders Lindén
    Anders Lindén Месяц назад

    Sitting, watching this video in a pile of timbre...

  • Johnny Bravo
    Johnny Bravo Месяц назад +1

    The whole video is just attacking the character of thoughty2, what a shame of a video...

  • Anym
    Anym Месяц назад +1

    honestly I just dislike how alot of pop music is being produced by a single person. causing alot of songs to sound similar despite it having different vocalists. (and no. I don't mean just those 2 dudes fourthytwo, I mean Thoughty2, said)

  • Pog Champ
    Pog Champ Месяц назад

    Total degenerate then you play Aphex Twin hahaha legend 4:53 :')

  • monikamoon14
    monikamoon14 Месяц назад

    Watching a talking beerhead spout bullshit, is hilarious, genius!

  • jacksoncrate
    jacksoncrate Месяц назад

    come on mate u both right !

  • Tom P
    Tom P Месяц назад

    Cracking vid my man! :D

  • mrkisukes
    mrkisukes Месяц назад

    That thoughty2 video shows that all you need is to say things that sound smart to an audience that doesn't understand what you are talking about and/or already have preconceived biases.

  • Alexander M
    Alexander M Месяц назад

    Why did you not comment on the loudness war and over compression?

  • Darren Sings In The Shower
    Darren Sings In The Shower Месяц назад

    not the aran island in galway no?

    • Tantacrul
      Tantacrul  Месяц назад

      Nope. Near Glasgow. Has an extra 'R'. Been to both. Can confirm they're different :)