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    In this enthralling debate, Professor Tariq Ramadan and Maryam Namazie go head-to-head on the topic of Islam in Europe today.

    Listed in a 2008 report called Victims of Intimidation: Freedom of Speech within Europe's Muslim Communities, Namazie has had multiple lectures no-platformed and disrupted. She is spokesperson for the Council of ex-Muslims and for Iranian Solidarity. Her writing specialises in challenging cultural relatavism and political Islam.

    Professor of contemporary Islamic Studies in Oxford, Tariq Ramadan has held positions in Universities across the world, he is also persona non grata in at least six countries including Saudi Arabia and Egypt for his challenges to undemocratic regimes.
    Namazie and Ramadan will be debating some of the biggest challenges facing Islam today.

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  • USMAN IDRISS
    USMAN IDRISS 3 months ago +44

    Honestly in every meaningful society there is right to freedom of expression, but it should be used with respect for humanity. So please don't allow political selfish interest to blindfold the TRUTH.

    • Al-Baraa Najeeb
      Al-Baraa Najeeb 12 days ago

      @Tomolo u have 2 accounts just spreading hatred

    • Tomolo
      Tomolo 12 days ago

      *Im 7. Jahrhundert wusste der Koranschreiber noch nichts von der Dreieinigkeit im Christentum!*

      5,116 „O Jesus, Sohn Mariens! Hast du zu den Leuten gesagt: 'Nimm mich und meine Mutter für zwei Götter außer Allah?' ".................

      HAHA Ja, Allah glaubt, dass es 1 + 1 + 1 = 3 ist! Aber kein Christ glaubt an 3 Götter;) Und das im 7 Jahrhundert

      Sure 5, Vers 73 "Wahrlich, ungläubig sind, jene die sagen:" Allah ist der dritte von drei "; (also der DRITTE von DREIN)

      Laut Koran weiß Allah nichts von einer Dreifaltigkeit im Christentum! HAHA Allah glaubt, er sei der dritte von drei! Nicht der erste oder der zweite! Sondern der dritte! HAHA was hat das mit der Dreifaltigkeit zu tun?

      + Kontext! 5 Vers 73, Kontext!!! *Allah erklärt 2 Vese später in Sure 5,75, dass Maria und Jesus nur Menschen sind und keine 2 Götter vor Allah sind, weil sie Essen aßen!!* *Sure 5,73 +5,75, zeigt es sind 3 Götter (Allah + MARIA + Jüdischer HERKULES!)! und keine Dreieinigkeit*

    • Tomolo
      Tomolo 12 days ago

      DONT play ignorant child!! *//ATTENTION!! Muslims pretend God did not become man in Christianity when arguing against Christian !! Because Allah does not know that God became man!/and that in the 7th century!/*

      ⚠️ Attention ⚠️ Here is the view of the Koran! 6,101 The Originator of the heavens and earth, from where He have a son whereas there is no woman for Him and he has created everything and He knows all things.

      Allah is NOT ALMIGHTY according to the Koran = KORAN ERROR !! He cannot have a SON without a FEMALE !!

      Allah is NOT ALL-KNOWING according to the Koran = KORAN ERROR !!! Allah does not know that the ETERNAL GOD himself became man !!

      What a LIE the Quran spreads! According to the Koran, Allah believes: Jesus is a Jewish Hercules (new created GOD)!

    • Al-Baraa Najeeb
      Al-Baraa Najeeb 12 days ago

      @Tomolo in luke 24:19 states that he is prophrmet yet in other verses day he is god how can a human(prophet) compaer or equal to God hence proving the fault of the bible

    • Al-Baraa Najeeb
      Al-Baraa Najeeb 12 days ago

      @Tomolo what the heck are you spouting so u admit that Christianity is fake yet still argue u realise that the bible is fake and full of errors yet you still quote it unlike you I quote the quran that been preserfed perfectly for centuries and decades have some logic

  • tylsimys67
    tylsimys67 Year ago +162

    In Europe difference by looks, accent and especially behavior provokes prejudice from majority, yes. But very seldom a death or incarceration or even public beating.

    • Aniy DD
      Aniy DD Month ago

      @Richard The Lion Heart And you know that how exactly? Tell us how you what millions of people would like ? Did they tell you that or just assuming that they would love your way like a westerner.

    • Jordanian Eagle
      Jordanian Eagle 2 months ago +1

      Sure. I guess 6 million Jews didn’t lose their lives thanks to this open mindset from a Europe. Please. Europe and the West need to get off their high horse.

    • YYY MMM
      YYY MMM 2 months ago

      The mere fact, for a human being, of ADMITTING/ACCEPTING the existence of an ALMIGHTY OMNIPOTENT ALL-KNOWING GOD (who needs nevertheless to test him for a whole life before KNOWING what he is worth!!!)IS EQUIVALENT TO THE FACT OF RENOUNCING ONE'S FREEDOM (out of fear, CHILDISHNESS, cowardice and stupidity), as that god SEES and KNOWS at every second what you think and what you do!

      making you into SUBMISSIVE KNAVES, VARLETS, ROBOTS, PARROTS, SLAVES prostrated on your four, ass offered...(at least in some religions!)
      GROTESQUE and CONTEMPTIBLE PUPPETS, an INSULT TO OUR SPECIES...
      And since that god is notoriously and conspicuously ABSENT, the believer, in fact, submits NECESSARILY to the current despot or dictator, god's delegate...
      (and it is to that aim that islam or christianism have been entertained by POLITICO-RELIGIOUS PREDATORS FOR CENTURIES!)

      AND THE BELIEVER SUBMITS BECAUSE HE IS TERRORIZED BY "MUHAMMAD'S HELL" BUT ABOVE ALL BY THE IDEA OF FACING THE FACT THAT WE ARE ALONE IN THIS WORLD, without anything or anybody looking after our adult life (except for a certain amount of evolutionary capital), that the universe is INDIFFERENT to our presence, as it has been to the presence of the dinosaurs or the hundreds of species which disappear each year, and that it is UP TO US TO INVENT THE MEANING OF OUR LIVES, which is certainly not to be found in the delirium of narcissistic perverts of the past, thirsting for power over their fellow-humans...
      (remember Blaise Pascal, that fanatical believer, terrorised by "those infinite spaces", and who had lost his mother at the age of 3...)
      The pretence to a protectory god is DECEPTIVE ADVERTISING deserving trial.

      But, obviously, things are so much WORSE if that "god", instead of "nicely" telling you that you should love each other (among others things not so nice!), orders instead that those who do not agree with him (although he is supposed to have created them according to his will, imperfect creatures of a perfect god (!!!), and therefore adoring or not adoring!!!!) are but FILTH (quran 9:28:"najas" = "excrement") to be fought/KILLED/racketted (jyzzia) and HUMILIATED (dhimmitude) (quran 9:29) and CONVERTED BY FORCE UNTIL ALL RELIGION PERTAINS TO ALLAH (who is apparently incapable to obtain such result by himself, without help of his adepts!!!)(quran 2:193 and others)!!!!

      Let us add that in the case of the muslim, such a state of being a submissive, INTOLERABLE to a human being and AGAINST HUMAN NATURE, can only be withstood through suggesting to the adepts that they have a right (a duty!) to impose on others, THE UNBELIEVERS, the same physical and mental ordeal that allah (and those pulling the strings of that ridiculous divine puppet, e.i. Muhammad or the current despot or ayatollah) exert upon them, just as lab experiments show that an over-stressed rat can only survive if it can in turn, stress other rats....

      And as we know, when there are no more unbelievers left, muslims kill one another...

      The HEIGHT OF HORROR AND STUPIDITY are reached when one knows that the author of
      that grotesque and SINISTER JOKE is
      a camel dealer (=a professional liar), supposedly illiterate,
      A SLASHER (of defeated enemies, the Banu Quraiza, and a poetess, mother of a family, Asma Bint Marwan, etc...),
      A PEDOPHILE (preying on a 6 year old child, and having a surah opportunistically supplied to him by ''allah'' to allow him to marry a little girl under the age of puberty!!! Aisha never could have children afterwards...),

      a THIEF, (leading for example the battle of Badr to avail himself of 50.000 dinars in gold, although strangely still retaining his two hands), and destroying Kinana's eyes with red hot nails to make him confess where the treasure was hidden (which a genuine prophet would have known!)

      and A RAPIST of women captives and slaves, (the last of which, Zainab Bint al-Harith, managed to poison him to death in spite of "allah' s protection!!!)

      BUT DARING TO PRETEND, without proofs or witnesses, TO BE THE MESSENGER OF A GOD (the "message" consisting of the heinous absurdities or banalities of the quran!!!),
      and a "PROPHET" (incapable of foreseeing his own death or of organizing properly his succession, which was bloody!!!)

      with 1.5 billion CHILDISH BELIEVERS, prostrated for 14 centuries on their four, ass offered, in TERROR OF HELL, prostrated in WORSHIP and full of the grotesque CONVICTION of having received a (priviledged) "REVELATION" from the daddymummygod ("creator and master of the universe", as if the universe, like a dog or a slave, had need of a master, an anthropomorphical notion!!!) who has nothing better to do than looking after them 24h/day...

      It should be noted that such believers should not be surprised (if islam was not also hypocritical), at being treated by unbelievers as the slaves they aim at being, and we could be also surprised to hear them complain to be sent as martyrs, in the glory of allah, to meet their dear huris which they will be able to fuck for eternity, since such is the level of muslim "spirituality"!!! (true for men only, women being a minority in allah's paradise and a great majority in allah's hell!)

      TOLERANCE: intolerance cannot be tolerated: it does not work, out of simple logic!!
      But some like to quote verse 2:256 (2:257?)of the quran: "NO COMPULSION IN RELIGION" to make us swallow the pretended "tolerance" of islam.
      That would be forgetting the end of that verse, rarely quoted: "...surely right has become distinct from wrong".
      Which means in fact that this is true (for this verse produced after hijra, when Muhammad felt the strongest!) only when islam has already triumphed, and that the "prophet" only wanted to have free hands with his dogma, with which he probably began to have difficulties to remain coherent, including with his own previous discourse!!!)!
      It has obviously not a meaning of religious tolerance: islam means lies and sophistry at every single step...! (NB : the "tolerant verses such as 109:6, 10:99, 18:29, etc..., when Muhammad kept a low profile in Mecca, are ABROGATED by those of Medina and must not, therefore, be brought to the credit of islamic tolerance!!!!).
      On the question of unbelievers, islam knows only two responses: dhimmitude (statute of untermensch for jews and christians, spared because the muslims, not very good at working, need them to work, produce/create and pay the racket of the jyzzia!) OR forced conversion/death for the rest. Apostates are sentenced to death and it is forbidden to criticize the dogma:
      "quran 2:2: "This is the Book! There is no doubt about it", but muslims will dare pretend, without joking, that islam is the religion of science, which science is based on systematic doubt.
      The muslim is an intoxicated person, and since he has neither courage nor intelligence to reject his poison, (installed in childhood and adult age through terror), he will try and poison others throught proselytism to feel les lonely in his despair!
      But he goes around bragging to try and make us forget he is IN FACT the prostrated slave of an absurd puppet invented by criminals...

      PS:
      god, he existed, would obviously never have produced a quran (a material text so easily falsified and cobbled up with!): he would have talked DIRECTLY into the head of his creature...
      thereby avoiding (for 14 centuries) all problems of understanding, interpretation, obsolescence/abrogation or translation,
      just as he would never have produced the bible, which muslims pretend to be falsified, while their quran is not!: god, as ALL-KNOWING, should have known that the bible was going to be falsified: does not he knows the perversity of his creature, imperfect creation of a perfect god???!!!
      God, if he existed, would not either have stated that man is made of clay, that the sun sets in a muddy pool of water, that woman is only worth half of man for mind and trustworthiness (quran 2:282), or, for the christian side, that the earth was created before the stars or that god, the all-knowing, has repented to have created mankind! (Genesis).

      But obviously, without the coranic TRICKERY, Muhammad, the narcissistic pervert GURU, could not have concocted his POISON based on TERROR (cf Muhammad: "I triumphed through terror"), SOPHISTRY and emotional CHILDISNESS!!!

    • Rubiya Parvin
      Rubiya Parvin 2 months ago

      Yes but if we keep ignoring the issue it'll lead to beating and death right? We must address the issue in the initial stages itself

    • UA
      UA 2 months ago

      @T S
      Do you know in Hindi, 'Hans' means a goose/swan, so according to your logic, Indians will consider you to be a goose/swan.

  • nikola car
    nikola car 10 months ago +281

    We humans are blessed with intellect only to realize how stupid we are, and we are getting closer to our goal every day

    • YYY MMM
      YYY MMM 2 months ago +1

      The mere fact, for a human being, of ADMITTING/ACCEPTING the existence of an ALMIGHTY OMNIPOTENT ALL-KNOWING GOD (who needs nevertheless to test him for a whole life before KNOWING what he is worth!!!)IS EQUIVALENT TO THE FACT OF RENOUNCING ONE'S FREEDOM (out of fear, CHILDISHNESS, cowardice and stupidity), as that god SEES and KNOWS at every second what you think and what you do!

      making you into SUBMISSIVE KNAVES, VARLETS, ROBOTS, PARROTS, SLAVES prostrated on your four, ass offered...(at least in some religions!)
      GROTESQUE and CONTEMPTIBLE PUPPETS, an INSULT TO OUR SPECIES...
      And since that god is notoriously and conspicuously ABSENT, the believer, in fact, submits NECESSARILY to the current despot or dictator, god's delegate...
      (and it is to that aim that islam or christianism have been entertained by POLITICO-RELIGIOUS PREDATORS FOR CENTURIES!)

      AND THE BELIEVER SUBMITS BECAUSE HE IS TERRORIZED BY "MUHAMMAD'S HELL" BUT ABOVE ALL BY THE IDEA OF FACING THE FACT THAT WE ARE ALONE IN THIS WORLD, without anything or anybody looking after our adult life (except for a certain amount of evolutionary capital), that the universe is INDIFFERENT to our presence, as it has been to the presence of the dinosaurs or the hundreds of species which disappear each year, and that it is UP TO US TO INVENT THE MEANING OF OUR LIVES, which is certainly not to be found in the delirium of narcissistic perverts of the past, thirsting for power over their fellow-humans...
      (remember Blaise Pascal, that fanatical believer, terrorised by "those infinite spaces", and who had lost his mother at the age of 3...)
      The pretence to a protectory god is DECEPTIVE ADVERTISING deserving trial.

      But, obviously, things are so much WORSE if that "god", instead of "nicely" telling you that you should love each other (among others things not so nice!), orders instead that those who do not agree with him (although he is supposed to have created them according to his will, imperfect creatures of a perfect god (!!!), and therefore adoring or not adoring!!!!) are but FILTH (quran 9:28:"najas" = "excrement") to be fought/KILLED/racketted (jyzzia) and HUMILIATED (dhimmitude) (quran 9:29) and CONVERTED BY FORCE UNTIL ALL RELIGION PERTAINS TO ALLAH (who is apparently incapable to obtain such result by himself, without help of his adepts!!!)(quran 2:193 and others)!!!!

      Let us add that in the case of the muslim, such a state of being a submissive, INTOLERABLE to a human being and AGAINST HUMAN NATURE, can only be withstood through suggesting to the adepts that they have a right (a duty!) to impose on others, THE UNBELIEVERS, the same physical and mental ordeal that allah (and those pulling the strings of that ridiculous divine puppet, e.i. Muhammad or the current despot or ayatollah) exert upon them, just as lab experiments show that an over-stressed rat can only survive if it can in turn, stress other rats....

      And as we know, when there are no more unbelievers left, muslims kill one another...

      The HEIGHT OF HORROR AND STUPIDITY are reached when one knows that the author of
      that grotesque and SINISTER JOKE is
      a camel dealer (=a professional liar), supposedly illiterate,
      A SLASHER (of defeated enemies, the Banu Quraiza, and a poetess, mother of a family, Asma Bint Marwan, etc...),
      A PEDOPHILE (preying on a 6 year old child, and having a surah opportunistically supplied to him by ''allah'' to allow him to marry a little girl under the age of puberty!!! Aisha never could have children afterwards...),

      a THIEF, (leading for example the battle of Badr to avail himself of 50.000 dinars in gold, although strangely still retaining his two hands), and destroying Kinana's eyes with red hot nails to make him confess where the treasure was hidden (which a genuine prophet would have known!)

      and A RAPIST of women captives and slaves, (the last of which, Zainab Bint al-Harith, managed to poison him to death in spite of "allah' s protection!!!)

      BUT DARING TO PRETEND, without proofs or witnesses, TO BE THE MESSENGER OF A GOD (the "message" consisting of the heinous absurdities or banalities of the quran!!!),
      and a "PROPHET" (incapable of foreseeing his own death or of organizing properly his succession, which was bloody!!!)

      with 1.5 billion CHILDISH BELIEVERS, prostrated for 14 centuries on their four, ass offered, in TERROR OF HELL, prostrated in WORSHIP and full of the grotesque CONVICTION of having received a (priviledged) "REVELATION" from the daddymummygod ("creator and master of the universe", as if the universe, like a dog or a slave, had need of a master, an anthropomorphical notion!!!) who has nothing better to do than looking after them 24h/day...

      It should be noted that such believers should not be surprised (if islam was not also hypocritical), at being treated by unbelievers as the slaves they aim at being, and we could be also surprised to hear them complain to be sent as martyrs, in the glory of allah, to meet their dear huris which they will be able to fuck for eternity, since such is the level of muslim "spirituality"!!! (true for men only, women being a minority in allah's paradise and a great majority in allah's hell!)

      TOLERANCE: intolerance cannot be tolerated: it does not work, out of simple logic!!
      But some like to quote verse 2:256 (2:257?)of the quran: "NO COMPULSION IN RELIGION" to make us swallow the pretended "tolerance" of islam.
      That would be forgetting the end of that verse, rarely quoted: "...surely right has become distinct from wrong".
      Which means in fact that this is true (for this verse produced after hijra, when Muhammad felt the strongest!) only when islam has already triumphed, and that the "prophet" only wanted to have free hands with his dogma, with which he probably began to have difficulties to remain coherent, including with his own previous discourse!!!)!
      It has obviously not a meaning of religious tolerance: islam means lies and sophistry at every single step...! (NB : the "tolerant verses such as 109:6, 10:99, 18:29, etc..., when Muhammad kept a low profile in Mecca, are ABROGATED by those of Medina and must not, therefore, be brought to the credit of islamic tolerance!!!!).
      On the question of unbelievers, islam knows only two responses: dhimmitude (statute of untermensch for jews and christians, spared because the muslims, not very good at working, need them to work, produce/create and pay the racket of the jyzzia!) OR forced conversion/death for the rest. Apostates are sentenced to death and it is forbidden to criticize the dogma:
      "quran 2:2: "This is the Book! There is no doubt about it", but muslims will dare pretend, without joking, that islam is the religion of science, which science is based on systematic doubt.
      The muslim is an intoxicated person, and since he has neither courage nor intelligence to reject his poison, (installed in childhood and adult age through terror), he will try and poison others throught proselytism to feel les lonely in his despair!
      But he goes around bragging to try and make us forget he is IN FACT the prostrated slave of an absurd puppet invented by criminals...

      PS:
      god, he existed, would obviously never have produced a quran (a material text so easily falsified and cobbled up with!): he would have talked DIRECTLY into the head of his creature...
      thereby avoiding (for 14 centuries) all problems of understanding, interpretation, obsolescence/abrogation or translation,
      just as he would never have produced the bible, which muslims pretend to be falsified, while their quran is not!: god, as ALL-KNOWING, should have known that the bible was going to be falsified: does not he knows the perversity of his creature, imperfect creation of a perfect god???!!!
      God, if he existed, would not either have stated that man is made of clay, that the sun sets in a muddy pool of water, that woman is only worth half of man for mind and trustworthiness (quran 2:282), or, for the christian side, that the earth was created before the stars or that god, the all-knowing, has repented to have created mankind! (Genesis).

      But obviously, without the coranic TRICKERY, Muhammad, the narcissistic pervert GURU, could not have concocted his POISON based on TERROR (cf Muhammad: "I triumphed through terror"), SOPHISTRY and emotional CHILDISNESS!!!

    • Ahmed Latif
      Ahmed Latif 2 months ago

      @anonymous anonymous very well typed

      May Allah grant you jannah in Both worlds

    • Thomas Kalarathil
      Thomas Kalarathil 2 months ago

      Ok I'll send the information you for

    • Ammar Yasser
      Ammar Yasser 3 months ago

      @ThomasShepperd I know what taqiyya is. What it is not is "stealth jihad." Taqiyya is when you lie about your faith/beliefs to save yourself from death (specifically because of your faith). It falls under self-defense. I don't understand what your problem is with defending one's self.

      If it was a Christian lying about not being a Christian to save themselves from death you wouldn't have a problem with it, would you?

    • ThomasShepperd
      ThomasShepperd 3 months ago

      ​@Ammar Yasser And "stealth jihad" is the name I give for what you muslims calls "تقيّة" or "taqīyya", it translates "prudence, fear, apprehension, caution". Taqīyya is basicely what is mentionned in 16:106 and 3:28-29.

  • Strawn149
    Strawn149 Year ago +93

    I’m impressed with a liberal actually speaking up for liberal freedoms. Very rare these days.

    • Noobstär
      Noobstär Month ago

      Prageru said that defending Liberal values has become conservative.

    • Excellero
      Excellero 2 months ago

      @Pak Turut don't bother with him he is a fake Jew an "Ashkenazi" one of the European convertees who claim being Jewish is racial and not religious.
      Let him keep on barking about Elijah which i don't know who he means by it

    • Hans Wurst
      Hans Wurst 3 months ago

      *⚠️Muslim you are allowed to Llie but the unforgivable sin thwarts the deception! ⚠️*

      Come testify! THERE is only one GOD and that is YHWH !!

      If you don't testify, you testify that Allah is just a made-up MICKYMAUSE FIGURE of Muhammad!
      Do you testify! Do you commit unforgivable SIN in ISLAM

    • Pak Turut
      Pak Turut 3 months ago +1

      @Hans Wurst The Arabic word for God is illah, whereas Allah the name of the one God.
      Ask any Hebrew speaking Jews of what the suffix im means for Elohim. The im is the plural of respect in the Hebrew grammar.

    • Hans Wurst
      Hans Wurst 3 months ago

      Dont play stu...
      ***The word God (Allah, El , ELohim,.......) is just a title !! YHWH is the proper name of the 1 true God!***

      Elijah means------------- --------------" *MY ALLAH IS YHWH*

      Elijah means------------- --------------" *MY GOD IS YHWH*

      Elijah means------------- --------------" *MY ELOHIM IS YHWH*

      Elijah means------------- --------------" *MY EL IS YHWH*

  • Anoop Vyas
    Anoop Vyas 9 months ago +33

    No matter what is said by someone about any religion. Everyone believes what one sees around the world.
    People should practice what they preach. One should show preaching in action not in words...
    Truth always prevails...

    • Al-Baraa Najeeb
      Al-Baraa Najeeb 12 days ago

      @Hans Wurst and you are only a joke and a liar

    • Jeffrey Declines
      Jeffrey Declines Month ago

      Yes islamist are actually practicing what were written on their book Quran .

    • Hans Wurst
      Hans Wurst 3 months ago

      DONT PLAY FOO:...!!

      *********So show us a contradiction to sura 9,29 which was written AFTER sura 9,29 and cancels sura 9,29! AND by the way !! Sura 9.29 Was written when Mohammed conquered Mecca = All ENEMIES were defeated! And suddenly Mohammed declares WAR to Christians and Jews with these verses !!**********

    • Google Enjoyer
      Google Enjoyer 3 months ago

      @Hans Wurst I never said these were abrogated my guy. Bring evidence right now for when the verse was revealed.

    • Hans Wurst
      Hans Wurst 3 months ago

      DONT RUN AWAY!!!!
      **********So show us a contradiction to sura 9,29 which was written AFTER sura 9,29 and cancels sura 9,29! AND by the way !! Sura 9.29 Was written when Mohammed conquered Mecca = All ENEMIES were defeated! And suddenly Mohammed declares WAR to Christians and Jews with these verses !!***********

  • Dion L. Garcia
    Dion L. Garcia Year ago +30

    I loved this discussion.. very interesting ...

    • HITMAN GAMING
      HITMAN GAMING 2 months ago

      Such discussion is possible only in Christian state.

  • R Sahi
    R Sahi 3 months ago +3

    Very useful and important debate. I fully agree with the Lady debater. Oxford Union work is badly needed in today's controversial world.

    • muhammad khan
      muhammad khan 3 months ago +1

      One should never insult others. As a result he can react more severely .And then situation will be aggravated. Never play with the emotions of others.I think that man was more reasonable as compared to lady.

  • Mr Aristocrat
    Mr Aristocrat 4 months ago +6

    Notice few times Prof. Ramadan was asked "what is in the philosophy of Islam that can't change" ergo that can't be reformed.
    Notice everytime he never addressed this. Well, theres plenty of presedent in Islamic history including during Muhammad's life on how to behave and practice Islam when you're a minority to how to behave and practice Islam when your the majority.
    There's a lot there that is sunnah meaning must be followed and can't be changed.

  • Amir M
    Amir M 4 months ago +9

    Shallow conversation! It was personal attack rather than a critical debate. The lady addressed good points but in not understandable way. One legit question from the guy could be “do you believe in political islam?”

  • Carl N
    Carl N 4 months ago +1

    Summary: All ideas can become politicized as long as there are people interested in power and the desire to be influential, wield power and thus control others.

    When one religion is dominant in a society, laws can be created in support of those dominant religious beliefs, people still need to vote to make it law.

    If this dominant belief system based on a religious identification...(identity politics)

    is voted in favour by government then blasphemy of religion by physical harm can also potentially become law... this can make it legally possible to punish others with violence based on directly or indirectly insulting that dominant belief system...a religious viewpoint should be respected but not turned into laws in order punish others who do not share these same beliefs.

    Laws for secular society should be based on secular ideas and rights. Since secular rights are based on logic and not based on religious viewpoints.

    Jesus was crucified because the dominant culture at the time in the middle east within his community asked the romans to pass judgement on him based on the premise of blasphemy of the same Judaism he was himself part of, hence the Roman Governor Pilate washed his hands of the blame. When a decision to harm others is based solely on insulting someones religious convictions, and we turn a blind eye to someones physical torture or pain in order to appease a religious majority... we have truly lost our humanity.

    • Carl N
      Carl N 4 months ago +1

      @Ag Be without the Christian king of Abyssinia protecting Muhammad from persecution of his own people who thought he was insane and trying to stone him for creating Islam... Islam wouldn't even exist. If anything Islam owes Christianity a huge debt of gratitude for their false prophet.

    • Ag Be
      Ag Be 4 months ago

      Read the Quran and then we'll see how you will react when muslims say that they are a religion of peace.
      Look up arab Christians who read translate and debate muslims.
      As long as we are treathened with violence, death and political sanctions for criticizing the religion of peace, it will be questioned.
      If islam cant handle any criticism of man, then I cant be the word of God.
      And it has no place in the west here all ideas are being put under the loop.
      Why do these people want us to let them live among us they promote their religion wherever they want but we have no right to question anything they promote my children to believe in.

  • Apel Ogetika
    Apel Ogetika 4 months ago +3

    First, he said that Charlie Hebdo attack was special case on France.
    Later, he want her to critizise all dictatorship.
    Then he said, “don’t do double standard, don’t do playing victim.”
    .
    Well… what lack on this debate is they talking about people. Of course every group of people have good and bad members. So you have to look at the main source. What the bible or quran teach.
    Every izlaam violence had same source.

  • MD. SHOWKAT HOSSAIN CHOWDHURY

    a mindblowing wonderful session. thanks to both speaker

    • Christy Varghese
      Christy Varghese 2 months ago

      ru-clip.com/video/Pc9kq4yj9oU/video.html

    • Ahmed
      Ahmed 5 months ago +1

      I Found the gentleman's opinion more unbiased and fair.

    • ONLINE LEARNING
      ONLINE LEARNING 6 months ago

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  • Paul Grech
    Paul Grech 4 months ago +13

    The lady taking part in this debate spoke with deep subject knowledge. There was little or no fat on her words, delivered with authority, conviction and utter clarity

    • Sondeshbd
      Sondeshbd 2 months ago

      @Paul Grech I'm not kidding to you . I just say to you that are you really read the Holy Quran ? with e neutral mind or not . I am sure you aren't read the Holy Book . If you and he read the Quran with a free mind or neutral position , you didn't say that . Don't foolish yourself to hear someone voice . I'm sure you are a educated person . Please read the Quran and try to realize why Allah gave the sentence to Mohammad (sm) . Allah have given the Quran separately . I mean part part and there were reason . When needed guidance , cautiousness , advice or anything like that Allah gave the sentence of The Quran to Mohammad (sm) . So , you need to know the fact of reason why Allah gave the part . Don't foolish yourself to hear someone voice who maybe educated but not enough knowledge about Islam . Do you ask yourself why Muslim have been doing thus brutal act ? why are they kill themselves ? see the Afghanistan where Soviet union start their domination rule , see in Palestine , see Iraq , see in Kasmir , see in China , see in Bosnia how Muslim were murdered . Muslim are trying to save themselves but their way of act aren't right , I Know . But they are innocent .

    • Paul Grech
      Paul Grech 2 months ago +1

      @Sondeshbd are you kidding me?
      'No terrorism in the quran, or in islam'?
      So 'kill the apostates wherever you find them'. One of many passages in a book that you say offers no terror.
      Also, to say that the lady speaker was speaking from a position of ignorance of Islam(?!) That she 'hates muslims'. That she is a 'fanatic'. You also say she has never read the quran. How do you know? You betray more about yourself with this kind of rhetoric that you realise. This lady is a scholar. An academic. Yet you unilaterally declare that she had not read the quran. How wrong you are. Not to mention infantile. Rather an arogant assumption. Put forward to give a juvenile and untrue opinion that you decided is factual in a transparently disengenuous attempt to discredit a lady who spoke with authority, abundant subject knowledge and charity even.
      Look, Islam detests other religions as false but worse by far, is responsible for almost the entire catalogue of religious atrocities commited globally for the past half century or more. Undeniable atrocities. Commited by cowardly religous fanatics, against innocent men, women, children and even babies.
      Then when a learned lady speaks to these 'facts', you attack the her credentials and academic worth, whilst simultaniously announcing that the quran is in no way related to terrorism. Either you are lying or you yourself have yet to read the quran.

    • Sondeshbd
      Sondeshbd 3 months ago

      I'm sure . She didn't read any Islamic book and the idea and concept of Islam . She saw the alienated facts and try to prove it is Islam . She is totally wrong . She saw Islam as a Christian . I mean radical Christian who hate Muslim and Islam . I suggest you and her that you and she should read Quran , The Holy Book which Allah has given us . Then , you understand Islam . There is no relationship between terrorism and Islam .

    • Ugur Senturk
      Ugur Senturk 4 months ago

      @Paul Grech absolutley

    • Paul Grech
      Paul Grech 4 months ago

      @Ugur Senturk shocker

  • R K
    R K 10 months ago +54

    I saw the whole debate it was good, thanks for posting it

    • Hans Wurst
      Hans Wurst 3 months ago

      Here is the verse that cancels the Peaceful Verses! This is called abrogation! Because the Koran writer did not know the future! Does the new verse cancel the old verse if they contradict each other!

      Sura 9.29 Fight those who do not believe in Allah or in the Last Day and who do not consider unlawful what Allah and His Messenger have made unlawful and who do not adopt the religion of truth from those who were given the Scripture - [fight] until they give the jizyah willingly while they are humbled.

    • Live Togo
      Live Togo 3 months ago +1

      this debate is just about the term of "Islamophobie" between with and against, so if you want to know more about killing someone who leave Islam, it's not an easy jugement, like it was represented in the media
      this video gives more informations about this jugement when and on who and why should be applicated, we can't juge something that is wrong before we know about it, ru-clip.com/video/cMj4GKY5FE0/video.html

    • Hans Wurst
      Hans Wurst 3 months ago

      does someone explain this curiosity in Islam to me? If Allah is not YHWH!
      **The word God (Allah, El , ELohim,.......) is just a title !! YHWH is the proper name of the 1 true God!**

      Elijah means------------- --------------" ***MY ALLAH IS YHWH***

      Elijah means------------- --------------" ***MY GOD IS YHWH***

      Elijah means------------- --------------" ***MY ELOHIM IS YHWH***

      Elijah means------------- --------------" ***MY EL IS YHWH***

    • Jetmir Zhabari
      Jetmir Zhabari 3 months ago +3

      @Hans Wurst I dont understand

    • Hans Wurst
      Hans Wurst 3 months ago

      ***////////⚠️⚠️ Allah's prophets are named after another GOD⚠️⚠️ Has Allah forgotten his name or is he just an IDOL!⚠️⚠️//////////****

      Why is it the unforgivable sin in Islam to confess " there is only one God and this is YHWH""

      The Name Jesus means------------- ***"YHWH SAVES "**

      Elijah means------------- --------------***" MY GOD IS YHWH"***

      John means ----------------------------***" YHWH has been gracious""***

      Zakariya means -----------------------***""YHWH has remembered""***

      are all prophets according to the Quran

  • Sparkyguru
    Sparkyguru Year ago +1

    If any ideas used to come closed to extremism then it's so much clear that some of people are there who want to used it as a profitable business.

  • Kishan Zala
    Kishan Zala Year ago +49

    When it comes to religion we all lack respect of each others religion.
    All countries have law so use law
    Dont take law in your hands.
    Dont kill what we cant create.

    • YYY MMM
      YYY MMM 2 months ago

      The mere fact, for a human being, of ADMITTING/ACCEPTING the existence of an ALMIGHTY OMNIPOTENT ALL-KNOWING GOD (who needs nevertheless to test him for a whole life before KNOWING what he is worth!!!)IS EQUIVALENT TO THE FACT OF RENOUNCING ONE'S FREEDOM (out of fear, CHILDISHNESS, cowardice and stupidity), as that god SEES and KNOWS at every second what you think and what you do!

      making you into SUBMISSIVE KNAVES, VARLETS, ROBOTS, PARROTS, SLAVES prostrated on your four, ass offered...(at least in some religions!)
      GROTESQUE and CONTEMPTIBLE PUPPETS, an INSULT TO OUR SPECIES...
      And since that god is notoriously and conspicuously ABSENT, the believer, in fact, submits NECESSARILY to the current despot or dictator, god's delegate...
      (and it is to that aim that islam or christianism have been entertained by POLITICO-RELIGIOUS PREDATORS FOR CENTURIES!)

      AND THE BELIEVER SUBMITS BECAUSE HE IS TERRORIZED BY "MUHAMMAD'S HELL" BUT ABOVE ALL BY THE IDEA OF FACING THE FACT THAT WE ARE ALONE IN THIS WORLD, without anything or anybody looking after our adult life (except for a certain amount of evolutionary capital), that the universe is INDIFFERENT to our presence, as it has been to the presence of the dinosaurs or the hundreds of species which disappear each year, and that it is UP TO US TO INVENT THE MEANING OF OUR LIVES, which is certainly not to be found in the delirium of narcissistic perverts of the past, thirsting for power over their fellow-humans...
      (remember Blaise Pascal, that fanatical believer, terrorised by "those infinite spaces", and who had lost his mother at the age of 3...)
      The pretence to a protectory god is DECEPTIVE ADVERTISING deserving trial.

      But, obviously, things are so much WORSE if that "god", instead of "nicely" telling you that you should love each other (among others things not so nice!), orders instead that those who do not agree with him (although he is supposed to have created them according to his will, imperfect creatures of a perfect god (!!!), and therefore adoring or not adoring!!!!) are but FILTH (quran 9:28:"najas" = "excrement") to be fought/KILLED/racketted (jyzzia) and HUMILIATED (dhimmitude) (quran 9:29) and CONVERTED BY FORCE UNTIL ALL RELIGION PERTAINS TO ALLAH (who is apparently incapable to obtain such result by himself, without help of his adepts!!!)(quran 2:193 and others)!!!!

      Let us add that in the case of the muslim, such a state of being a submissive, INTOLERABLE to a human being and AGAINST HUMAN NATURE, can only be withstood through suggesting to the adepts that they have a right (a duty!) to impose on others, THE UNBELIEVERS, the same physical and mental ordeal that allah (and those pulling the strings of that ridiculous divine puppet, e.i. Muhammad or the current despot or ayatollah) exert upon them, just as lab experiments show that an over-stressed rat can only survive if it can in turn, stress other rats....

      And as we know, when there are no more unbelievers left, muslims kill one another...

      The HEIGHT OF HORROR AND STUPIDITY are reached when one knows that the author of
      that grotesque and SINISTER JOKE is
      a camel dealer (=a professional liar), supposedly illiterate,
      A SLASHER (of defeated enemies, the Banu Quraiza, and a poetess, mother of a family, Asma Bint Marwan, etc...),
      A PEDOPHILE (preying on a 6 year old child, and having a surah opportunistically supplied to him by ''allah'' to allow him to marry a little girl under the age of puberty!!! Aisha never could have children afterwards...),

      a THIEF, (leading for example the battle of Badr to avail himself of 50.000 dinars in gold, although strangely still retaining his two hands), and destroying Kinana's eyes with red hot nails to make him confess where the treasure was hidden (which a genuine prophet would have known!)

      and A RAPIST of women captives and slaves, (the last of which, Zainab Bint al-Harith, managed to poison him to death in spite of "allah' s protection!!!)

      BUT DARING TO PRETEND, without proofs or witnesses, TO BE THE MESSENGER OF A GOD (the "message" consisting of the heinous absurdities or banalities of the quran!!!),
      and a "PROPHET" (incapable of foreseeing his own death or of organizing properly his succession, which was bloody!!!)

      with 1.5 billion CHILDISH BELIEVERS, prostrated for 14 centuries on their four, ass offered, in TERROR OF HELL, prostrated in WORSHIP and full of the grotesque CONVICTION of having received a (priviledged) "REVELATION" from the daddymummygod ("creator and master of the universe", as if the universe, like a dog or a slave, had need of a master, an anthropomorphical notion!!!) who has nothing better to do than looking after them 24h/day...

      It should be noted that such believers should not be surprised (if islam was not also hypocritical), at being treated by unbelievers as the slaves they aim at being, and we could be also surprised to hear them complain to be sent as martyrs, in the glory of allah, to meet their dear huris which they will be able to fuck for eternity, since such is the level of muslim "spirituality"!!! (true for men only, women being a minority in allah's paradise and a great majority in allah's hell!)

      TOLERANCE: intolerance cannot be tolerated: it does not work, out of simple logic!!
      But some like to quote verse 2:256 (2:257?)of the quran: "NO COMPULSION IN RELIGION" to make us swallow the pretended "tolerance" of islam.
      That would be forgetting the end of that verse, rarely quoted: "...surely right has become distinct from wrong".
      Which means in fact that this is true (for this verse produced after hijra, when Muhammad felt the strongest!) only when islam has already triumphed, and that the "prophet" only wanted to have free hands with his dogma, with which he probably began to have difficulties to remain coherent, including with his own previous discourse!!!)!
      It has obviously not a meaning of religious tolerance: islam means lies and sophistry at every single step...! (NB : the "tolerant verses such as 109:6, 10:99, 18:29, etc..., when Muhammad kept a low profile in Mecca, are ABROGATED by those of Medina and must not, therefore, be brought to the credit of islamic tolerance!!!!).
      On the question of unbelievers, islam knows only two responses: dhimmitude (statute of untermensch for jews and christians, spared because the muslims, not very good at working, need them to work, produce/create and pay the racket of the jyzzia!) OR forced conversion/death for the rest. Apostates are sentenced to death and it is forbidden to criticize the dogma:
      "quran 2:2: "This is the Book! There is no doubt about it", but muslims will dare pretend, without joking, that islam is the religion of science, which science is based on systematic doubt.
      The muslim is an intoxicated person, and since he has neither courage nor intelligence to reject his poison, (installed in childhood and adult age through terror), he will try and poison others throught proselytism to feel les lonely in his despair!
      But he goes around bragging to try and make us forget he is IN FACT the prostrated slave of an absurd puppet invented by criminals...

      PS:
      god, he existed, would obviously never have produced a quran (a material text so easily falsified and cobbled up with!): he would have talked DIRECTLY into the head of his creature...
      thereby avoiding (for 14 centuries) all problems of understanding, interpretation, obsolescence/abrogation or translation,
      just as he would never have produced the bible, which muslims pretend to be falsified, while their quran is not!: god, as ALL-KNOWING, should have known that the bible was going to be falsified: does not he knows the perversity of his creature, imperfect creation of a perfect god???!!!
      God, if he existed, would not either have stated that man is made of clay, that the sun sets in a muddy pool of water, that woman is only worth half of man for mind and trustworthiness (quran 2:282), or, for the christian side, that the earth was created before the stars or that god, the all-knowing, has repented to have created mankind! (Genesis).

      But obviously, without the coranic TRICKERY, Muhammad, the narcissistic pervert GURU, could not have concocted his POISON based on TERROR (cf Muhammad: "I triumphed through terror"), SOPHISTRY and emotional CHILDISNESS!!!

    • Truth Prevails
      Truth Prevails 4 months ago

      Islam stands on the words of one total Stranger who misbehaved with an innocent man, the Islamic prophet at Hira Cave without any provocation. The Stranger caught hold of him and pressed him! He never introduced himself or revealed his name. He never claimed he was sent by God of Abraham, Jehovah. This Stranger got no witness whatsoever till date! It was an old man, an Arab Christian who suggested that the Stranger who appeared at Hira Cave could be Angel Gabriel of Bible! However he died soon without verifying the matter further or confirming it!

      Nowhere in Quran it says explicitly that the above person who met Islamic prophet at Hira cave was angel Gabriel send by God of Abraham, the true Creator God.

      Islam stands on the words of above Stranger, the so called Jibreel! What this Stranger spoke is the absolute reference for 1.80 billion Muslims! They compare even the words of Holy God of Bible, Jesus Christ, Moses, David etc with what this Stranger spoke! If their words match with the words of this Stranger, it is acceptable. Otherwise it is rejected! It is considered corrupted! How sad!

      Whereas God of Bible cautioned about this Stranger long before in His word. Listen to the following Bible verses please.

      1 John 2: 22 Who is the liar but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ? This is the antichrist, he who denies the Father and the Son. 23 No one who denies the Son has the Father. Whoever confesses the Son has the Father also. 24 Let what you heard from the beginning abide in you. If what you heard from the beginning abides in you, then you too will abide in the Son and in the Father. 25 And this is the promise that he made to us-eternal life. 26 I write these things to you about those who are trying to deceive you.

      For details :-

      www.quora.com/What-evidence-do-you-have-that-the-Quran-isn-t-true/answer/Annee-Aikara

    • Hans Wurst
      Hans Wurst 4 months ago

      ***+++++++++++⚠️⚠️ Allah's prophets are named after another GOD⚠️⚠️Has Allah forgotten his name or is he just an IDOL!⚠️⚠️ +++++++++**

      Why is it the unforgivable sin in Islam to confess " there is only one God and this is YHWH""

      The Name Jesus means------------- *"YHWH SAVES "

      Elijah means------------- --------------" MY GOD IS YHWH"

      John means ----------------------------" YHWH has been gracious""

      Zakariya means -----------------------""YHWH has remembered""

      Jacob means----------------------------"YHWH will PROTECT!"

      ******+++++++are all prophets according to the Quran++++++*******

    • Rikamond Boletivari
      Rikamond Boletivari 4 months ago

      @Shia of immam ali when did I say that was wrong?

    • Shia of immam ali
      Shia of immam ali 4 months ago

      @Rikamond Boletivari O believers! Take neither Jews nor Christians as guardians-they are guardians of each other.1 Whoever does so will be counted as one of them. Surely Allah does not guide the wrongdoing people. ????? what so wrong bout this

  • Tuhin
    Tuhin 3 months ago +7

    Really enjoyed the debate. Thanks to both of them.

    • Afro Ade
      Afro Ade 3 months ago

      Yeah me too..The woman definitely won

  • Rafiullah sultani
    Rafiullah sultani Year ago +17

    It is my best wish to be in this society and study what i want .

    • Christy Varghese
      Christy Varghese 2 months ago

      ru-clip.com/video/Pc9kq4yj9oU/video.html

    • harry bronts
      harry bronts 3 months ago

      We call ourselves Christians
      what Is a Cv hristian

  • Frank Ebah
    Frank Ebah Year ago +68

    When talking about our freedom, we must know that it ends up when we across others freedom,and feeling or Believe...

    • Zubayr Khadar
      Zubayr Khadar 28 days ago

      @Urban Survival Chad I live in Somalia, why do you I assume that I live in the west. I know you Americans always assume all Africans are uneducated.

    • Overwatch17
      Overwatch17 2 months ago

      No, freedom of speech is an absolute, all beliefs and all opinions have the right to be challenged without fear of violence or punishment.

    • Live Togo
      Live Togo 3 months ago

      @Ingrid Arvidsson this debate is just about the term of "Islamophobie" between with and against, so if you want to know more about killing someone who leave Islam, it's not an easy jugement, like it was represented in the media
      this video gives more informations about this jugement when and on who and why should be applicated, we can't juge something that is wrong before we know about it, ru-clip.com/video/cMj4GKY5FE0/video.html

    • Live Togo
      Live Togo 3 months ago

      this debate is just about the term of "Islamophobie" between with and against, so if you want to know more about killing someone who leave Islam, it's not an easy jugement, like it was represented in the media
      this video gives more informations about this jugement when and on who and why should be applicated, we can't juge something that is wrong before we know about it, ru-clip.com/video/cMj4GKY5FE0/video.html

    • OGG
      OGG 3 months ago +1

      @Dazai Osamu Physically forcing someone to obey you is far worse than someone insulting you. You're mistaken. You may not force someone to obey you because it might hurt your feelings. Why do you even care what other people think? At least they’re not forcing you to do whatever they want. Thank Christ I live in the USA. Death>tyranny. Go research the European dark ages, educate yourself on tyranny and religious rulers.

  • Firdos Jemal
    Firdos Jemal 4 months ago +12

    I really appriciate the way he explained his ideas.

  • Kishan Zala
    Kishan Zala Year ago +38

    Politics uses religious differences to only create discomfort.

    • TH21_003 Edrian
      TH21_003 Edrian Year ago +2

      never said a truer words.. politics focus on more for world than afterlife thats why they willingly to do anything to get everything in the world before dying..

  • Orkhan Allahverdiyev
    Orkhan Allahverdiyev 4 months ago +21

    22:00 - 35:50 absolute masterclass in terms of logic, judgement and reasoning..hats off

    • YYY MMM
      YYY MMM 2 months ago

      The mere fact, for a human being, of ADMITTING/ACCEPTING the existence of an ALMIGHTY OMNIPOTENT ALL-KNOWING GOD (who needs nevertheless to test him for a whole life before KNOWING what he is worth!!!)IS EQUIVALENT TO THE FACT OF RENOUNCING ONE'S FREEDOM (out of fear, CHILDISHNESS, cowardice and stupidity), as that god SEES and KNOWS at every second what you think and what you do!

      making you into SUBMISSIVE KNAVES, VARLETS, ROBOTS, PARROTS, SLAVES prostrated on your four, ass offered...(at least in some religions!)
      GROTESQUE and CONTEMPTIBLE PUPPETS, an INSULT TO OUR SPECIES...
      And since that god is notoriously and conspicuously ABSENT, the believer, in fact, submits NECESSARILY to the current despot or dictator, god's delegate...
      (and it is to that aim that islam or christianism have been entertained by POLITICO-RELIGIOUS PREDATORS FOR CENTURIES!)

      AND THE BELIEVER SUBMITS BECAUSE HE IS TERRORIZED BY "MUHAMMAD'S HELL" BUT ABOVE ALL BY THE IDEA OF FACING THE FACT THAT WE ARE ALONE IN THIS WORLD, without anything or anybody looking after our adult life (except for a certain amount of evolutionary capital), that the universe is INDIFFERENT to our presence, as it has been to the presence of the dinosaurs or the hundreds of species which disappear each year, and that it is UP TO US TO INVENT THE MEANING OF OUR LIVES, which is certainly not to be found in the delirium of narcissistic perverts of the past, thirsting for power over their fellow-humans...
      (remember Blaise Pascal, that fanatical believer, terrorised by "those infinite spaces", and who had lost his mother at the age of 3...)
      The pretence to a protectory god is DECEPTIVE ADVERTISING deserving trial.

      But, obviously, things are so much WORSE if that "god", instead of "nicely" telling you that you should love each other (among others things not so nice!), orders instead that those who do not agree with him (although he is supposed to have created them according to his will, imperfect creatures of a perfect god (!!!), and therefore adoring or not adoring!!!!) are but FILTH (quran 9:28:"najas" = "excrement") to be fought/KILLED/racketted (jyzzia) and HUMILIATED (dhimmitude) (quran 9:29) and CONVERTED BY FORCE UNTIL ALL RELIGION PERTAINS TO ALLAH (who is apparently incapable to obtain such result by himself, without help of his adepts!!!)(quran 2:193 and others)!!!!

      Let us add that in the case of the muslim, such a state of being a submissive, INTOLERABLE to a human being and AGAINST HUMAN NATURE, can only be withstood through suggesting to the adepts that they have a right (a duty!) to impose on others, THE UNBELIEVERS, the same physical and mental ordeal that allah (and those pulling the strings of that ridiculous divine puppet, e.i. Muhammad or the current despot or ayatollah) exert upon them, just as lab experiments show that an over-stressed rat can only survive if it can in turn, stress other rats....

      And as we know, when there are no more unbelievers left, muslims kill one another...

      The HEIGHT OF HORROR AND STUPIDITY are reached when one knows that the author of
      that grotesque and SINISTER JOKE is
      a camel dealer (=a professional liar), supposedly illiterate,
      A SLASHER (of defeated enemies, the Banu Quraiza, and a poetess, mother of a family, Asma Bint Marwan, etc...),
      A PEDOPHILE (preying on a 6 year old child, and having a surah opportunistically supplied to him by ''allah'' to allow him to marry a little girl under the age of puberty!!! Aisha never could have children afterwards...),

      a THIEF, (leading for example the battle of Badr to avail himself of 50.000 dinars in gold, although strangely still retaining his two hands), and destroying Kinana's eyes with red hot nails to make him confess where the treasure was hidden (which a genuine prophet would have known!)

      and A RAPIST of women captives and slaves, (the last of which, Zainab Bint al-Harith, managed to poison him to death in spite of "allah' s protection!!!)

      BUT DARING TO PRETEND, without proofs or witnesses, TO BE THE MESSENGER OF A GOD (the "message" consisting of the heinous absurdities or banalities of the quran!!!),
      and a "PROPHET" (incapable of foreseeing his own death or of organizing properly his succession, which was bloody!!!)

      with 1.5 billion CHILDISH BELIEVERS, prostrated for 14 centuries on their four, ass offered, in TERROR OF HELL, prostrated in WORSHIP and full of the grotesque CONVICTION of having received a (priviledged) "REVELATION" from the daddymummygod ("creator and master of the universe", as if the universe, like a dog or a slave, had need of a master, an anthropomorphical notion!!!) who has nothing better to do than looking after them 24h/day...

      It should be noted that such believers should not be surprised (if islam was not also hypocritical), at being treated by unbelievers as the slaves they aim at being, and we could be also surprised to hear them complain to be sent as martyrs, in the glory of allah, to meet their dear huris which they will be able to fuck for eternity, since such is the level of muslim "spirituality"!!! (true for men only, women being a minority in allah's paradise and a great majority in allah's hell!)

      TOLERANCE: intolerance cannot be tolerated: it does not work, out of simple logic!!
      But some like to quote verse 2:256 (2:257?)of the quran: "NO COMPULSION IN RELIGION" to make us swallow the pretended "tolerance" of islam.
      That would be forgetting the end of that verse, rarely quoted: "...surely right has become distinct from wrong".
      Which means in fact that this is true (for this verse produced after hijra, when Muhammad felt the strongest!) only when islam has already triumphed, and that the "prophet" only wanted to have free hands with his dogma, with which he probably began to have difficulties to remain coherent, including with his own previous discourse!!!)!
      It has obviously not a meaning of religious tolerance: islam means lies and sophistry at every single step...! (NB : the "tolerant verses such as 109:6, 10:99, 18:29, etc..., when Muhammad kept a low profile in Mecca, are ABROGATED by those of Medina and must not, therefore, be brought to the credit of islamic tolerance!!!!).
      On the question of unbelievers, islam knows only two responses: dhimmitude (statute of untermensch for jews and christians, spared because the muslims, not very good at working, need them to work, produce/create and pay the racket of the jyzzia!) OR forced conversion/death for the rest. Apostates are sentenced to death and it is forbidden to criticize the dogma:
      "quran 2:2: "This is the Book! There is no doubt about it", but muslims will dare pretend, without joking, that islam is the religion of science, which science is based on systematic doubt.
      The muslim is an intoxicated person, and since he has neither courage nor intelligence to reject his poison, (installed in childhood and adult age through terror), he will try and poison others throught proselytism to feel les lonely in his despair!
      But he goes around bragging to try and make us forget he is IN FACT the prostrated slave of an absurd puppet invented by criminals...

      PS:
      god, he existed, would obviously never have produced a quran (a material text so easily falsified and cobbled up with!): he would have talked DIRECTLY into the head of his creature...
      thereby avoiding (for 14 centuries) all problems of understanding, interpretation, obsolescence/abrogation or translation,
      just as he would never have produced the bible, which muslims pretend to be falsified, while their quran is not!: god, as ALL-KNOWING, should have known that the bible was going to be falsified: does not he knows the perversity of his creature, imperfect creation of a perfect god???!!!
      God, if he existed, would not either have stated that man is made of clay, that the sun sets in a muddy pool of water, that woman is only worth half of man for mind and trustworthiness (quran 2:282), or, for the christian side, that the earth was created before the stars or that god, the all-knowing, has repented to have created mankind! (Genesis).

      But obviously, without the coranic TRICKERY, Muhammad, the narcissistic pervert GURU, could not have concocted his POISON based on TERROR (cf Muhammad: "I triumphed through terror"), SOPHISTRY and emotional CHILDISNESS!!!

    • Live Togo
      Live Togo 3 months ago

      @Wilson Paul this debate is just about the term of "Islamophobie" between with and against, so if you want to know more about killing someone who leave Islam, it's not an easy jugement, like it was represented in the media
      this video gives more informations about this jugement when and on who and why should be applicated, we can't juge something that is wrong before we know about it, ru-clip.com/video/cMj4GKY5FE0/video.html

    • Amir K
      Amir K 3 months ago +1

      @Deepu Joseph There is also a system in Islam called Kaffarah which is simply to say that it is something that a Muslim must do after comitting a very sinful action such as having intercourse during the month of Ramadhan during the time of fasting.And of one the ways to perform Kaffarah is TO FREE A SLAVE.

    • Amir K
      Amir K 3 months ago +1

      @Deepu Joseph And if you talk about slavery,the Quran cam down right after the Arabs have slaves and it gradually dissolve the system slowly and slowly until it is wiped out,and the Arabs have institutional slavery not the bizzare and violent type of slavery such as the Greeks,the Vikings and the Romans did,THAT IS NOT AN INSTITUTIONAL SLAVERY.

    • Amir K
      Amir K 3 months ago +1

      @Deepu Joseph Where did you get this from?And actually even if prophet Muhammad PBUH even has a slave,he will either release them right after such as the well known Bilal bin Rabbah

  • May Morales
    May Morales 6 months ago +13

    I would argue for Christianity because of the judgements and the historical context of how many Europeans fought for Christianity.

    • Truth Prevails
      Truth Prevails 4 months ago +1

      Islam stands on the words of one total Stranger who misbehaved with an innocent man, the Islamic prophet at Hira Cave without any provocation. The Stranger caught hold of him and pressed him! He never introduced himself or revealed his name. He never claimed he was sent by God of Abraham, Jehovah. This Stranger got no witness whatsoever till date! It was an old man, an Arab Christian who suggested that the Stranger who appeared at Hira Cave could be Angel Gabriel of Bible! However he died soon without verifying the matter further or confirming it!

      Nowhere in Quran it says explicitly that the above person who met Islamic prophet at Hira cave was angel Gabriel send by God of Abraham, the true Creator God.

      Islam stands on the words of above Stranger, the so called Jibreel! What this Stranger spoke is the absolute reference for 1.80 billion Muslims! They compare even the words of Holy God of Bible, Jesus Christ, Moses, David etc with what this Stranger spoke! If their words match with the words of this Stranger, it is acceptable. Otherwise it is rejected! It is considered corrupted! How sad!

      Whereas God of Bible cautioned about this Stranger long before in His word. Listen to the following Bible verses please.

      1 John 2: 22 Who is the liar but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ? This is the antichrist, he who denies the Father and the Son. 23 No one who denies the Son has the Father. Whoever confesses the Son has the Father also. 24 Let what you heard from the beginning abide in you. If what you heard from the beginning abides in you, then you too will abide in the Son and in the Father. 25 And this is the promise that he made to us-eternal life. 26 I write these things to you about those who are trying to deceive you.

      For details :-

      www.quora.com/What-evidence-do-you-have-that-the-Quran-isn-t-true/answer/Annee-Aikara

    • മേൽ പറഞ്ഞവാൻ ടീയാൻ
      മേൽ പറഞ്ഞവാൻ ടീയാൻ 5 months ago +2

      Christian from🇮🇳 india

  • Kandahar Anar
    Kandahar Anar 5 months ago +13

    Love this conversation one of the best 🦁🦁🦁🦁💪💪💪💪💪🥸🥸🥸🥸🥸🦦🦦🦦🦦🦦

  • Jatinder Chhauda
    Jatinder Chhauda Year ago +147

    Excellent work is being done by Oxford Union, please keep it up!

    • atam mardes
      atam mardes 3 months ago

      When fake stuff like resurrection, parting the Red Sea, splitting the moon, etc., are used to fool & indoctrinate the gullible emotional folks to believe an imaginary God & his prophet/son/saviour/book are sacred, the dogma causes motivated ignorance while defending the sacredness.

    • Live Togo
      Live Togo 3 months ago

      this debate is just about the term of "Islamophobie" between with and against, so if you want to know more about killing someone who leave Islam, it's not an easy jugement, like it was represented in the media
      this video gives more informations about this jugement when and on who and why should be applicated, we can't juge something that is wrong before we know about it, ru-clip.com/video/cMj4GKY5FE0/video.html

    • Harald TV
      Harald TV 4 months ago

      does someone explain this curiosity in Islam to me? If Allah is not YHWH!
      ***The word God (Allah, El , ELohim,.......) is just a title !! YHWH is the proper name of the 1 true God!***

      Elijah means------------- --------------" ***MY ALLAH IS YHWH***

      Elijah means------------- --------------" ***MY GOD IS YHWH***

      Elijah means------------- --------------" ***MY ELOHIM IS YHWH***

      Elijah means------------- --------------" ***MY EL IS YHWH***

    • John Majid
      John Majid 4 months ago

      @Vikash Sharma what really hurts Hindus is wen A Muslim have to tell them the truth off Y ram an sits and the exile to banbas

    • truth
      truth 4 months ago

      ru-clip.com/video/ystjUi9SMQk/video.html
      Please listen carefully till the end and please comment your opinion like and please comment your opinion

  • Lakhiram Lekhwar
    Lakhiram Lekhwar Year ago +9

    But Majority will not understand and follow your Idea brother Ramadan, 75% are Fanatics and they are educating their future generations also to be fanatics

  • M Mursan
    M Mursan Year ago +30

    Well, I guess this kind of discussion may avoid misunderstanding and misconceipt of Islam toward global acceptance...🙏

    • My Mind
      My Mind 2 months ago

      @Ragnar lathbrok please get a life and educate yourself. I still can’t believe the west are so dumb

    • luka moha
      luka moha 3 months ago

      @Anthony Jackson you are stupid islam was the power of the world history Islam will back power at the world

    • Live Togo
      Live Togo 3 months ago

      @Eduardo Fangueiro this debate is just about the term of "Islamophobie" between with and against, so if you want to know more about killing someone who leave Islam, it's not an easy jugement, like it was represented in the media
      this video gives more informations about this jugement when and on who and why should be applicated, we can't juge something that is wrong before we know about it, ru-clip.com/video/cMj4GKY5FE0/video.html

    • EllasPOSEiDON
      EllasPOSEiDON 3 months ago

      @Silly Bunch Believe? I guess you mixed me up with someone. :) I am life long atheist, luckily. :)

    • Silly Bunch
      Silly Bunch 3 months ago

      @Anthony Jackson thats propaganda, like taliban, their good not bad, it is just propaganda!

  • Jal lal
    Jal lal 4 months ago +12

    Freedom of expression is not to censure others. If anyone try to censure others culture, religion etc, he will be a psychic schaden freude. Don't expect positive and pleasant things from a guy having arrogance accompanied with ignorance as inheritance, even they are in the midst of modern education and wordly prosperity. Better to keep an arms length with such idiotic schaden freude.

    • Inspirational wordings
      Inspirational wordings 2 months ago +1

      ru-clip.com/video/-U0YSrzeTNw/video.html

    • Rajarsi
      Rajarsi 4 months ago +1

      Freedom of expression is not absolute, ignorant sectarian whiner.

  • Soundous Bouzegza
    Soundous Bouzegza 11 months ago +1

    Professor of the hearts

  • Faruk Ahmed
    Faruk Ahmed Year ago +22

    In respect of human rights, freedom of speech, justice, compassion and mutual respect; both speakers should have concluded on the points on which they agree with each other.

    • ayman lakhlili
      ayman lakhlili 5 months ago

      @Simon Moylan the quran says nothing but you have your beliefs and we have ours. The rest is what will happed to the bad what will happen to the non believers is like saying if you jump from a skyscraper head on you will die. They aren’t saying non believers are bad and should die

    • Simon Moylan
      Simon Moylan 5 months ago +1

      The same human rights the in Qur'an about non believers maybe you should read how offensive this stuff can be

  • Amine Atobrhan
    Amine Atobrhan 3 months ago +14

    Being a Christian for all my generations I would never imagined that one day people would come up with something called defending their right to insult a religion.

    • Straight Path
      Straight Path 3 months ago +1

      @worfoz
      You people are lost in darkness and hell fire is your destination.

    • Straight Path
      Straight Path 3 months ago

      @worfoz
      Mockery is your part of life so you people remain wilfully blind, deaf and dumb unable to search Creator.
      What do you think?
      Creator has no ability to send Truth.
      Human has much power than Him.
      Your brain failed?
      Have no sense?
      You just love argument?
      Didn't see how the people of the whole world accepting Islam after searching Truth?
      Till you people are in dream?
      And stop talking about this.
      It is your choice what you like or you dislike.

    • worfoz
      worfoz 3 months ago

      @Sofea IKV Yes, and child rapist muhamed was a sex criminal, mocking beliefs is so easy
      why should an almighty god not be able to reside is a human body?
      because some pagan muhamed said god is not able to do that?

      muhamed who????

    • Sofea IKV
      Sofea IKV 3 months ago

      @worfoz sure and a god resides in a human body named Jesus.... A god with immense power reside in a mere human... Was born from a mother? And was also a baby?? Like?? Come on??

    • worfoz
      worfoz 3 months ago

      @Batang Anai rediculous muhamed said he was a spaceman, and now redicilous racists think they are so smart... tell me about your best bible expert, is it true that rediculous muhamed was illiterate?

  • Balu Chha
    Balu Chha 3 months ago +1

    Yes what he said about reform muslim mind is super

  • AJ
    AJ 4 months ago +3

    You need to earn the respect, you want to be respect. You need to respect other. Simple. It all about knowledge.

  • Abba Danwali
    Abba Danwali 5 months ago +65

    This type of FORUM is a welcome decision to enlighten the public on their religions. I thank Allah SWT for giving us this chance to understand the right thing to follow and the wrong thing to throw away.

    • Mohamed Khalid's
      Mohamed Khalid's 3 months ago

      @Xenzorygames us? Yeah sure generalization

    • Sager A.B
      Sager A.B 3 months ago

      The proof that God Exists is that He created us Human beings through one Father Adam & Eve , He thought Adam all the things.

      We Enjoy the Benefits of Almighty God's creations read & write , speak & listen , Learn & Teach , understand Good & Bad etc.

    • Shan Khan
      Shan Khan 3 months ago

      @Glorified Studios No, never

    • Shan Khan
      Shan Khan 3 months ago

      @Glorified Studios buddy, I was told that bullshit from the day I was born. God gave man that choice, man made the wrong choice because, for example, he lives in Eastern Russia where there's no Islam and god throws him in hell for eternity. Great justice

    • Shan Khan
      Shan Khan 3 months ago

      @Glorified Studios Why does it matter to my life what the Quran has to say? There are hundreds of millions of books in this world

  • Peter Griffiths
    Peter Griffiths 10 months ago +1

    36 minutes in I agree all should try and respect other views. But words of criticism still don’t justify a reaction of mass murder. The two levels of action do not equate.

  • Lets Have A Go
    Lets Have A Go 9 months ago +11

    That Lady nailed it no buts to anything!

    • skanso ssi
      skanso ssi 2 months ago

      @Ātûr he can say whatever he want, so as me. You totally missed my point.
      i just asked a logical question. but got no answer. in rhetoric repeating the obvious ... is an expression of doubt. for example ... someone who keep repeating i am angry i am angry ... poeple tend to think that he is not sincere because it must be obvious for them from the way he is acting that he is angry.

    • Ātûr
      Ātûr 2 months ago +2

      @skanso ssi cause he has freedom of expression, something you should have understood by now everyone has.

    • skanso ssi
      skanso ssi 3 months ago +1

      if she nailed it, why do you have to repeat an obvious thing ? just wondering.

  • SHUBHA SAMANTA
    SHUBHA SAMANTA Year ago

    Nice discussion.The cause of cartoons with double standard without considering the centiments of the opposites on such delicate issue as the prophet the reaction will be explosive. Criticizing on the laws of religion is different and here there should be no punishment.But,then you cannot take revenge in Sweden for what happened in France.That is idiotic action of the group that's doing a nd by also the supporters

  • Ingrid Arvidsson
    Ingrid Arvidsson 8 months ago +3

    If you love your self, what should you do, if you love your self? In every situation?

    • Patate Potato
      Patate Potato 5 months ago

      Fap lol 🤣

    • Tiff
      Tiff 6 months ago +1

      Take care and be kind to yourself(Mind, body and spirit). Keep away from those who make you feel bad about yourself!!

    • Anirudh Mittal
      Anirudh Mittal 8 months ago

      Love whom your body or your soul? You can't do both.

  • Shim
    Shim 4 months ago +27

    12:40 I'm from Bangladesh and Ajivit Roy was also writing against government censorship and imprisonment of bloggers for writing against the government. He was killed in the Ekushe Book Fair by a terrorist group(which nobody supports) and we mourned for him

    • Friends Wxyz
      Friends Wxyz 2 months ago

      @Tausif Karim tumi indiar moddeh jai oder dhormo ta criticise koro ora ki tomake asto rakhbe rakhbe na eta Bangladesh majority manush i Muslim

    • T S
      T S 2 months ago

      ***////////⚠⚠ Allah's prophets are named after another GOD⚠⚠ Has Allah forgotten his name or is he just an IDOL!⚠⚠//////////****

      Why is it the unforgivable sin in Islam to confess " there is only one God and this is YHWH""

      The Name Jesus means------------- ***"YHWH SAVES "**

      Elijah means------------- --------------***" MY GOD IS YHWH"***

      John means ----------------------------***" YHWH has been gracious""***

      Zakariya means -----------------------***""YHWH has remembered""***

      are all prophets according to the Quran

    • Ro X aS
      Ro X aS 3 months ago

      @Tausif Karim did u interpret these verses the way u wanted it to or did u ask a scholar of Islam or research online about explanation of them? and u asked if prophet Muhammad was a perfect example or not. hmm well he married an old woman & a young girl. both end of the spectrum :v and a 9 year old girl in the 7th century is same as a 18 yr old now mentally. only reason the age of consent in most countries r 18 is because that's what is guessed by scientists to be a safe age for maturity of a woman. so u asking if marrying a 9 yr old 1400 years ago was a good example or not is the same as me asking if marrying a 18yr old girl is a good example of a human being or not.

    • md shaik
      md shaik 3 months ago

      There is no atheist in Bangladesh but anti Islamist. You guys are totally hypocrisy. You don’t tolerate the truth.

    • {Bread boi}
      {Bread boi} 3 months ago

      @Tausif Karim that's a lie i never found anything about any religion except islam because any other religion is dangerous for some reason but at the same time islam is as much dangerous as others?? What an idiot

  • Claudio Rodriguez
    Claudio Rodriguez 8 months ago +1

    Freedom not to be invaded (colonized) by European powers in S.XVIII and S. XIX. Freedom to respect all religions in Europe but basically, respect the European values and institutions. If you do not accept that, perhaps your original country is your best option.

  • prasad mlv
    prasad mlv Year ago

    Sir..you understood the essance of
    religion,but 95% of Mullah's and moulana s and islamic schlorars are
    Not in the same page of yours.
    There is every possibility that these so called intellectuals, Islam scholar's may impose FATWA on you
    Are they even might try to harm you.
    We appreciate your tolerance and and your ideas but in reality they are not followef.

  • Darian Reman
    Darian Reman 9 months ago +1

    The simple truth minded human might say: I have a rule that I've lived by for a long time. I always tell the truth. This way, I won't have to remember what I said, and so I will never be good at lying. The advice of many religions is do not lie as a matter of principle and judgment, which is why their adherents oppose violence and non-theft and have other obligations as pure spiritual rules of life. Their relationship with God gives them powerful authority over the lives of millions . But we live in the Age of Enlightenment, propelled by science and logic. Do we still need sacred laws and myths? Science has proven that the Earth is not flat, that the sky is not lifted up , the stars are not lamps, meteors are not to kill demons and no human has flown through history from Mecca to Jerusalem on a rug, nor has prayer changed the course of history, nor has it proven the existence of an invisible god, nor has anyone resurrected after death. Knowledge does not find a logic or reward for killing any person, whatever his beliefs and religion is for the sake of an invisible Lord who supposed to have commanded someone to fight and kill people in his name while at the same time he claims to be Forgiving, Merciful.

    • abdullah khan
      abdullah khan 4 months ago +1

      With due respect, sciences concepts are taken from Quran 1400 yrs old book, no versions n same since then, but other holy books changed with time,

  • Kayla
    Kayla 2 years ago +28

    "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to death your right to say it"

  • Bruce Lee
    Bruce Lee 4 months ago

    i love this lady for having more balls than most men its very unfortunate she was introduced to this kind of islam witch is majority lets be honest

  • Peter Griffiths
    Peter Griffiths 10 months ago +3

    32 minutes in the speaker seems to be saying the right to react with violence is equal to the right of speech!? Or maybe I misunderstand?...this is a real question; please answer.

    • Kessi Kessi
      Kessi Kessi 3 months ago

      Charle Abdou and all world attacks is 100% made by intelligence to make ppl hate Islam and Muslims so they go vote for racist parties like marine lepen and SD

    • Adib KOLKO
      Adib KOLKO 9 months ago

      no he didnt mean that. he meant that if right of speech is misused then violence ensues even if its not good

  • Ingrid Arvidsson
    Ingrid Arvidsson 8 months ago +4

    I understand the kidnaping of the free word throw the position to feel the whole time, propaganda to feel and feel and feel. This is how they use it for an vendetta. How about to deal with evil. You have the right to be angry. But have you learn to deal wirh anger? Anger is a feeling.

    • Live Togo
      Live Togo 3 months ago

      this debate is just about the term of "Islamophobie" between with and against, so if you want to know more about killing someone who leave Islam, it's not an easy jugement, like it was represented in the media
      this video gives more informations about this jugement when and on who and why should be applicated, we can't juge something that is wrong before we know about it, ru-clip.com/video/cMj4GKY5FE0/video.html

  • Kishan Zala
    Kishan Zala Year ago +4

    Keep broad minded think outside boxs. Respect each others view.
    Never instigate violences for money.

    • Shujairi Shuib
      Shujairi Shuib 5 months ago +1

      We are what we want to hear. Feel free to listen to both of their debates and if you're faithful to your belief,then you will know what is the truth. People have their own opinion of everything and i think we have to respect them as they are.

  • Rusidah Zaidi
    Rusidah Zaidi 4 months ago +6

    I know my right but I won't hurt my children. Simple example.

  • Tim Alwi
    Tim Alwi 5 months ago +8

    Sharia law is law accordance to Islamic principles or Sharia. So to say a Sharia law is correct.

  • WMF_India
    WMF_India 7 months ago +3

    Muslims expect rights is countries where they are in minority BUT provide none to minorities in countries where they are in majority including no public freedom of practicing their own religion. In Pakistan, hindu minority which was in double digit percentage in 1947 is reduced to less than 2% in 2021. The lady debating with Tareq should have prepared better on these examples to deal with Tareq's attempts to obfuscate the core subject.

    • Hussain kazmi
      Hussain kazmi 6 months ago

      Actually I would have loved your comment but you being an indian have the very responsibility to spew venom only against Pakistan. Ok Hindus aren't safe in Pakistan but in india even Hindus aren't safe. The point is extremism isn't Islam specific. People have exploited religion for their means, the exploitation of religion was started in india by Britishers.

  • C S
    C S 7 months ago +8

    They say that EU and UK don't like Islam, but please check the Muslim percentage in the population of those countries, it is huge.

    • Alpha e
      Alpha e 3 months ago +1

      @Nasir Osman how is it true

    • Nasir Osman
      Nasir Osman 3 months ago

      @Alpha e ..simply you are the biggest liar....so whatever you says is definitely a lie.

    • Alpha e
      Alpha e 6 months ago +4

      @ZANZIBAR TANI ARCHIVES islam is lie?

    • ZANZIBAR TANI ARCHIVES
      ZANZIBAR TANI ARCHIVES 6 months ago

      Islam is the true religion and no one can change the truth sinve it prevail..... UK and Americans are humans since one may have a will but the Authorities may not like the act of reverting but u cannot force people but I may askt who Attack Muslims in Middle east?

    • C S
      C S 6 months ago +2

      @ZANZIBAR TANI ARCHIVES then why they accept that much muslim people to their countries? Soon, EU and UK have more muslims than christian😅 why do they want this?

  • namoos_e_sahaba R.Z.A
    namoos_e_sahaba R.Z.A 6 days ago +1

    Islam is real religion in world
    Ilove my religion❤
    I love allah
    I love muhammad saw
    Ilove ibrahim as
    Ilove musa as
    I love esa(jesus) as
    I love all prophets❤

  • John Martin Nichols
    John Martin Nichols Year ago +2

    Well, I am sure that (almost) everyone will agree that Tariq Ramadan won the debate; smiling, debonnair, and making a reasonable effort to appear relaxed. But I'm afraid I'm with the opposition that time and again failed to get to grips with her opponent although multiple occasions were offered. However she proved utterly incapable of getting her teeth into Tariq's line of argument although she was not short of justifiable criticism of Islamic practice in many countries. Take the case where Tariq pleads for more respect towards Islam. Respect has to be earned. For example, one of the cartoons depicted Mohammad's turban as bomb with an ignited fuse : did this idea appear out of nowhere or does it say something about extremist behaviour in the name of Islam? Actions, like the massacre of the Israeli Olympic team at the 1972 Munich venue, to cite just one example, lead to consequences, like the cartoons many years later. She never met him head on, but allowed herself to be manipulated by what was, in all fairness, rather specious, or outwardly respectable arguments.

  • Mahesh Charan
    Mahesh Charan 9 months ago +52

    Emancipate our self from mental slavery, None but ourself can free our mind.
    - Bob Marley

    • Harald TV
      Harald TV 4 months ago

      ***////////⚠️⚠️ Allah's prophets are named after another GOD⚠️⚠️ Has Allah forgotten his name or is he just an IDOL!⚠️⚠️//////////****

      Why is it the unforgivable sin in Islam to confess " there is only one God and this is YHWH""

      The Name Jesus means------------- ***"YHWH SAVES "**

      Elijah means------------- --------------***" MY GOD IS YHWH"***

      John means ----------------------------***" YHWH has been gracious""***

      Zakariya means -----------------------***""YHWH has remembered""***

      are all prophets according to the Quran

    • babahaja tsaragi
      babahaja tsaragi 5 months ago

      You are not the reference to the authority of Islam

    • Achmed Wilders-Baudet
      Achmed Wilders-Baudet 6 months ago +1

      Taking a little part of something, whether it's from a song or from a religion, to justify your own small mindedness and to trick other people into liking you.. I see a lot of that nowadays.

    • UN2030-AGENDA
      UN2030-AGENDA 6 months ago

      This song of Freedom...

    • Alyyy
      Alyyy 6 months ago

      who is bob marley?

  • David Chang
    David Chang 4 months ago

    So incredible!!

  • Najib Surattee
    Najib Surattee 4 months ago +1

    Professsional, good debate

  • Yul Kinantan
    Yul Kinantan 10 months ago

    Senin tgl 1 maret 2021
    Assalamu'alaikum warrahmatullahi wabarakatuh Habib..?

    Ulama itu wirasatul abiya, dakwahnya menerangkan kitab suci "Al-Qu'ran" kepada jemaahnya,berkata sopan santun dan lemah lembut,ramah tamah dan penuh kasih sayang, bukan memgada-ada bercerita melantur kemana mana, kadang membelalakan mata dan ketawa, itu akan berdampak buruk kepada umat dan dirinya dalam beragama, sebagaimana dijelaskan Al-Quran surat ke : ( 3 ) ayat 18 ,ayat 71, ayat 7
    ( 2 ) ayat 159 ayat 160, ayat 174,ayat 175, ayat 42,ayat 63, ayat 64
    ( 17 ) ayat 23, ayat 24.

  • Zak Eye
    Zak Eye 4 months ago

    OMG waaaw such a beautiful human being the professor is you can see the sincerity of his heart in he’s speech and the humbleness of his character my eyes is witnessing the essence of a real gentleman and able to be touched by it and even feel that positive energy from here sitting behind the screen, I can imagine the beautiful atmosphere having him as my teacher and me being a student of his and sitting in the same room and getting educated by an educated individual like this professor. I would feel blessed God bless him

  • Marylou Björåsen
    Marylou Björåsen Month ago

    There is an undeniable responsibility, that each and every world leaders is endowed with when in power, regardless of ideology, of personal belief, or the religious tradition with which they are, and have been immersed. Being reminded of the fragility of human nature when given power, seems to be a primary aspect that is constantly denied in our modernist assumptions, as we assume that human reason would not permit us to stoop to controlling citizens without it. Sadly there is, as this debate clearly illustrates, that words and definitions of words/concepts are vital in our communications between each other. Education is of course a necessary adjunct to this as was also noted, but this too needs qualifying as education is so closely tied to politics, to culture, and ideology and how we as an individual attempts to interpret according to our own personal truth concept. How is it possible for one person to have all the truth, if humanity is in fact a thing? Each person it seems submits a miniscule something to humanity and regardless of how big or small, grand or modest, is of gigantic importance. When that importance is sidelined by someone else (either in power or not) any human being reacts, regardless of belief system.

  • likhon biswas
    likhon biswas 10 months ago +2

    That's really amazing speech

  • Mirza Ansar Baig
    Mirza Ansar Baig 11 months ago +4

    I am feeling very happy.
    Love your debate.
    Love you from india
    A student from Maulana Azad National Urdu University hyderabad.

  • Koz S
    Koz S 10 months ago +8

    I still do not understand what I have done to deserve God's Love!

    • YYY MMM
      YYY MMM 2 months ago

      The mere fact, for a human being, of ADMITTING/ACCEPTING the existence of an ALMIGHTY OMNIPOTENT ALL-KNOWING GOD (who needs nevertheless to test him for a whole life before KNOWING what he is worth!!!)IS EQUIVALENT TO THE FACT OF RENOUNCING ONE'S FREEDOM (out of fear, CHILDISHNESS, cowardice and stupidity), as that god SEES and KNOWS at every second what you think and what you do!

      making you into SUBMISSIVE KNAVES, VARLETS, ROBOTS, PARROTS, SLAVES prostrated on your four, ass offered...(at least in some religions!)
      GROTESQUE and CONTEMPTIBLE PUPPETS, an INSULT TO OUR SPECIES...
      And since that god is notoriously and conspicuously ABSENT, the believer, in fact, submits NECESSARILY to the current despot or dictator, god's delegate...
      (and it is to that aim that islam or christianism have been entertained by POLITICO-RELIGIOUS PREDATORS FOR CENTURIES!)

      AND THE BELIEVER SUBMITS BECAUSE HE IS TERRORIZED BY "MUHAMMAD'S HELL" BUT ABOVE ALL BY THE IDEA OF FACING THE FACT THAT WE ARE ALONE IN THIS WORLD, without anything or anybody looking after our adult life (except for a certain amount of evolutionary capital), that the universe is INDIFFERENT to our presence, as it has been to the presence of the dinosaurs or the hundreds of species which disappear each year, and that it is UP TO US TO INVENT THE MEANING OF OUR LIVES, which is certainly not to be found in the delirium of narcissistic perverts of the past, thirsting for power over their fellow-humans...
      (remember Blaise Pascal, that fanatical believer, terrorised by "those infinite spaces", and who had lost his mother at the age of 3...)
      The pretence to a protectory god is DECEPTIVE ADVERTISING deserving trial.

      But, obviously, things are so much WORSE if that "god", instead of "nicely" telling you that you should love each other (among others things not so nice!), orders instead that those who do not agree with him (although he is supposed to have created them according to his will, imperfect creatures of a perfect god (!!!), and therefore adoring or not adoring!!!!) are but FILTH (quran 9:28:"najas" = "excrement") to be fought/KILLED/racketted (jyzzia) and HUMILIATED (dhimmitude) (quran 9:29) and CONVERTED BY FORCE UNTIL ALL RELIGION PERTAINS TO ALLAH (who is apparently incapable to obtain such result by himself, without help of his adepts!!!)(quran 2:193 and others)!!!!

      Let us add that in the case of the muslim, such a state of being a submissive, INTOLERABLE to a human being and AGAINST HUMAN NATURE, can only be withstood through suggesting to the adepts that they have a right (a duty!) to impose on others, THE UNBELIEVERS, the same physical and mental ordeal that allah (and those pulling the strings of that ridiculous divine puppet, e.i. Muhammad or the current despot or ayatollah) exert upon them, just as lab experiments show that an over-stressed rat can only survive if it can in turn, stress other rats....

      And as we know, when there are no more unbelievers left, muslims kill one another...

      The HEIGHT OF HORROR AND STUPIDITY are reached when one knows that the author of
      that grotesque and SINISTER JOKE is
      a camel dealer (=a professional liar), supposedly illiterate,
      A SLASHER (of defeated enemies, the Banu Quraiza, and a poetess, mother of a family, Asma Bint Marwan, etc...),
      A PEDOPHILE (preying on a 6 year old child, and having a surah opportunistically supplied to him by ''allah'' to allow him to marry a little girl under the age of puberty!!! Aisha never could have children afterwards...),

      a THIEF, (leading for example the battle of Badr to avail himself of 50.000 dinars in gold, although strangely still retaining his two hands), and destroying Kinana's eyes with red hot nails to make him confess where the treasure was hidden (which a genuine prophet would have known!)

      and A RAPIST of women captives and slaves, (the last of which, Zainab Bint al-Harith, managed to poison him to death in spite of "allah' s protection!!!)

      BUT DARING TO PRETEND, without proofs or witnesses, TO BE THE MESSENGER OF A GOD (the "message" consisting of the heinous absurdities or banalities of the quran!!!),
      and a "PROPHET" (incapable of foreseeing his own death or of organizing properly his succession, which was bloody!!!)

      with 1.5 billion CHILDISH BELIEVERS, prostrated for 14 centuries on their four, ass offered, in TERROR OF HELL, prostrated in WORSHIP and full of the grotesque CONVICTION of having received a (priviledged) "REVELATION" from the daddymummygod ("creator and master of the universe", as if the universe, like a dog or a slave, had need of a master, an anthropomorphical notion!!!) who has nothing better to do than looking after them 24h/day...

      It should be noted that such believers should not be surprised (if islam was not also hypocritical), at being treated by unbelievers as the slaves they aim at being, and we could be also surprised to hear them complain to be sent as martyrs, in the glory of allah, to meet their dear huris which they will be able to fuck for eternity, since such is the level of muslim "spirituality"!!! (true for men only, women being a minority in allah's paradise and a great majority in allah's hell!)

      TOLERANCE: intolerance cannot be tolerated: it does not work, out of simple logic!!
      But some like to quote verse 2:256 (2:257?)of the quran: "NO COMPULSION IN RELIGION" to make us swallow the pretended "tolerance" of islam.
      That would be forgetting the end of that verse, rarely quoted: "...surely right has become distinct from wrong".
      Which means in fact that this is true (for this verse produced after hijra, when Muhammad felt the strongest!) only when islam has already triumphed, and that the "prophet" only wanted to have free hands with his dogma, with which he probably began to have difficulties to remain coherent, including with his own previous discourse!!!)!
      It has obviously not a meaning of religious tolerance: islam means lies and sophistry at every single step...! (NB : the "tolerant verses such as 109:6, 10:99, 18:29, etc..., when Muhammad kept a low profile in Mecca, are ABROGATED by those of Medina and must not, therefore, be brought to the credit of islamic tolerance!!!!).
      On the question of unbelievers, islam knows only two responses: dhimmitude (statute of untermensch for jews and christians, spared because the muslims, not very good at working, need them to work, produce/create and pay the racket of the jyzzia!) OR forced conversion/death for the rest. Apostates are sentenced to death and it is forbidden to criticize the dogma:
      "quran 2:2: "This is the Book! There is no doubt about it", but muslims will dare pretend, without joking, that islam is the religion of science, which science is based on systematic doubt.
      The muslim is an intoxicated person, and since he has neither courage nor intelligence to reject his poison, (installed in childhood and adult age through terror), he will try and poison others throught proselytism to feel les lonely in his despair!
      But he goes around bragging to try and make us forget he is IN FACT the prostrated slave of an absurd puppet invented by criminals...

      PS:
      god, he existed, would obviously never have produced a quran (a material text so easily falsified and cobbled up with!): he would have talked DIRECTLY into the head of his creature...
      thereby avoiding (for 14 centuries) all problems of understanding, interpretation, obsolescence/abrogation or translation,
      just as he would never have produced the bible, which muslims pretend to be falsified, while their quran is not!: god, as ALL-KNOWING, should have known that the bible was going to be falsified: does not he knows the perversity of his creature, imperfect creation of a perfect god???!!!
      God, if he existed, would not either have stated that man is made of clay, that the sun sets in a muddy pool of water, that woman is only worth half of man for mind and trustworthiness (quran 2:282), or, for the christian side, that the earth was created before the stars or that god, the all-knowing, has repented to have created mankind! (Genesis).

      But obviously, without the coranic TRICKERY, Muhammad, the narcissistic pervert GURU, could not have concocted his POISON based on TERROR (cf Muhammad: "I triumphed through terror"), SOPHISTRY and emotional CHILDISNESS!!!

    • Hans Wurst
      Hans Wurst 4 months ago

      ****++⚠️⚠️ Allah's prophets are named after another GOD⚠️⚠️Has Allah forgotten his name or is he just an IDOL!⚠️⚠️++****

      Why is it the unforgivable sin in Islam to confess " there is only one God and this is YHWH""

      The Name Jesus means------------- *"YHWH SAVES "*

      Elijah means------------- --------------*" MY GOD IS YHWH"*

      John means ----------------------------*" YHWH has been gracious""*

      Zakariya means -----------------------*""YHWH has remembered""*

      Jacob means---------------------------- *"YHWH will PROTECT!"*

      ****+++++++are all prophets according to the Quran++++++*****

    • Samwise
      Samwise 5 months ago

      @ZioNite Gaming abrahamic religions do this. Not just one.

    • Yaman Beelik
      Yaman Beelik 6 months ago

      "john Metcalf
      Yaman Beelik God is a projection of a small piece of brain tissue behind the left temple, you're not talking about god you're talking about yourself."

      @john metcalf, I got a curse by "unseen being" in my 20's that suffered me several years until I met an old man who can talk with them and ask them to pardon me in return of 3 fowl bred that boiled without a SALT as an offering for them as my "sacrifice" for I disturbed or harmed them during a holy friday along the river in our town.

    • Yaman Beelik
      Yaman Beelik 8 months ago

      @ZioNite Gaming
      I have a proof dumbass and I don't need to disclose them to anybody. I just owned them with my own eyes and if it's mean for you, it will come to yours just like mine. But why you felt insecure of what I said if you don't believe it at all? Your so dumb for that. And don't be a lunatic you live happily even you feel like the world is upside down because there's a great helper that can call Him anytime just a piece of advice. Living without a religion its the least thing you can do, but just leave the religion alone for their worship of the Name, singing a different song, crying for repentace, enjoying their doing while on earth, and showing agape love towards everybody to make the world a better place has nothing to do with your internet propaganda over and over again nothing new while you know nothing more, that's why I felt pity for you.

  • Damian Knight
    Damian Knight 6 months ago

    I can't treat you as an equal human being if I'm forced to curtail my speech to your sensibilities because your sensibilities are infantile and I need to tell you the blunt honest truth because I believe you are an adult that can handle an adult conversation. I'm not going to insult you by believing that your claim to cultural sensitivity has made you soo childish as to not be able to hear the honest assessment of your 1st century culture. I also need to point out that your cultural values of caring about the feelings of a deity over people if fkng absurd and will never be accepted in the 21st century.

  • wan fakrul azim
    wan fakrul azim Year ago

    I agree with what she said that “ to defend the right of people is to defend the freedom of speech etc and not to defend islam & islamization” but i think what tariq say is beautiful u have the right but u also hav responsibility. You can say that islam is a threat but does it true. Instead of having a critical debate about islam , you try to push the narrative that islam is a threat just because the how sharia law in saudi arabia implemented or conclude the islam of isis as the real islam practice by muslim in general. Freedom of speech need to be protected and also need to mindful of when u talking about something that sensitive like religion.

  • Zack Bem
    Zack Bem 9 months ago

    things got messed up nowadays bcoz there's a lot of idiots in the human rights org. freedom of expression was supposed 2 b 4 the reason of protecting the rights of those who are oppressed n allowing them to speak their concern, opinion and rights. mainly 4 those who are lower tier in the hierarchy such as employees against their employees, the press/people against authorities/government...

    BUT u still need 2 adhere 2 moral values. u cannot slander people, u cannot insult people, u cannot create/spread false information, u cannot do things that u know will create provocation when there's no reasonable justification for u 2 do so. when someone says don't do it since it's insulting or provocative then don't do it. simple as that. if u don't want someone punching u in the face, y keep provoking them 2 do so? how would u feel if someone makes fun about ur parents or loved ones, making slanderers claims n openly tell people about it? do u just smile and say it's okay coz they're free 2 say whatever they want?

    Freedom of expression is not a free pass 2 say whatever u want without considering the other party. it really is ironic how the more modern n educated we get, the more backwards our moral values become.

  • Dofe hino
    Dofe hino 3 months ago +2

    damn, i wanted him to say nononono my minute! when they started clapping

  • ENAL HUKA
    ENAL HUKA 9 months ago

    Excellent keep it up

  • Stan Capar
    Stan Capar 7 months ago

    Every country representown civilization and culture.this is their style of life.
    If you come my housr you respect my home my civilization , my style not try to change me home. In Europe you have to respect the Europe civilization.
    In Islam country I can not do what they do in my home Why? Not come to my home and change my home.In my home I decide the same like you have to have to do in your home.

  • Sohrab Amiri
    Sohrab Amiri 4 months ago +3

    Hi lady you are a brave lady
    And bravo to you 🤔❤🌷

  • MarvelousMan
    MarvelousMan 5 months ago +1

    To be honest, when himan beings are killed for drawing cartoons of someone, even if that someone is the Prophet of Islam, a normal human cannot but react amotionally to such a barbaric act.

    • azhar shaikh
      azhar shaikh 5 months ago

      What's the punishment for disrespecting the French flag and republic symbols?

    • Ak43
      Ak43 5 months ago

      You are right about the emotions that someone will feel after that however you should also know that act was completely against Islam and the teachings of prophet Mohammad because prophet Mohammed taught Muslims to ignore such acts towards Islam and him he told Muslims to turn their faces the other way and completely ignore it. According to Islam the person who killed the teacher should be punished brutally because he took an innocent persons life

  • browngirl reclaimed
    browngirl reclaimed 8 months ago +11

    So sad that Professor Tariq Ramadan had to spend the majority of his answer to question 3 addressing freedom of speech in the context of the Middle East, simply because Maryam Namazie used the age old tactic of deflecting attention to freedom of speech within Muslim communities of the Global South (rather than actually addressing the context of the West within which the debate was expressly set - ‘Islam in Europe’).
    Really reminiscent of Audre Lorde: "This is an age old and primary tool of all oppressors to keep the oppressed occupied with the masters concerns." The way he was forced to expend energy discussing the situation in the Muslim world as opposed to focusing on ‘Islam in Europe' was super racist, Othering, played into the colonial/imperial agenda and took valuable space and time away from the pressing issue at hand. It was incredibly silencing. What was important to discuss and address here was the colonial continuum of racism and islamophobia in European countries and how this relates to freedom of speech, yet this space was taken up by points completely irrelevant to the debate.

    The fact that he was called an ‘Islamist’ was also SO RACIST. Even within the debate, racism was permitted and even minimised - the lady at 57 who posed a super racist 'question'. This whole type of behaviour should never have been permitted in this space. No one should be subjected to this. The moderator had a duty to speak up and challenge racism. To instead be silent is a form of racism in and of itself. Certain forms of respect and dignity should be always upheld. Really disappointed in the Oxford Union.

  • AmorSamurai
    AmorSamurai 5 years ago +12

    You debate here, the people to whom the debate matters don't care and listen to their imams. We need documentaries about critical thinking, science and all kind of religions mandatory in schools. We may hopefully raise more atheists this way or at least more moderates who do not follow blindly religious dogma.

    • Christy Varghese
      Christy Varghese 2 months ago

      ru-clip.com/video/Pc9kq4yj9oU/video.html

    • Fbbi Noire
      Fbbi Noire 3 months ago +1

      the biggest dogma is the atheism

    • Inter Galactic
      Inter Galactic 5 years ago +1

      +ReanimaterR , I agree with you. there should not be religious schools in the west or any country. All schools in a country should be public and free. May be there should be a subject called religions of the world where religions are studied objectively, for example: when considering hinduism....talk about why the concept of the untouchables (Dalies) is wrong... it is inhumane, organised marriages, burning of the wives with the dead husbands. In islam: The imposition of the death penalty for apostasy, homosexuality, adultery etc while paedophilia is condone. Christianity vilification of homosexuals, turning the blind on paedophilia in the church. Judaism and the abuse of Palestinia ect. All I want to say is that it is inhumane for society to encourage religious believes that insults humanity's common sense, logic and reason. We have to say loud and clear that it is not right to believe that the earth is only 6000 years old according to the abrahamic religions. that so far there is not empirical proof of any god existence...that we all first and foremost human and nobody's slaves. that we are children of the universe and that we all live in a big house called EARTH.

  • WMF_India
    WMF_India 7 months ago +1

    Tariq Hamadan is a good debater but is handicapped by facts going against his position which in itself is deeply flawed. In such situation, one has to obfuscate the subject by bringing irrelevant emotional aspects. That's what he did when the question was regarding Charlie Hebdo and what happened in France, he brought in Beirut etc. which was absolutely irrelevant.

  • Md Amin
    Md Amin 10 months ago +2

    If u hv freedom for speech on anything at the same i hv right to react upon it....Al humdulillah im muslim and im happy with my religious rule

    • Silly Bunch
      Silly Bunch 3 months ago

      @John Camacho christians literally believe the bible that was changed so much, how do you believe that when people make it fake?

    • John Camacho
      John Camacho 5 months ago +8

      No you don't. If you want your religious rule then continue living in the cave somewhere in Afghanistan. Leave everyone out of it.

  • Al. Jifry
    Al. Jifry Year ago +1

    Don't judge from activity of some countries and individuals you have to check quran whether it is showing any wrong path you must study sharia law from quran if you find fault give with qutation from quran

  • Roy Meynell
    Roy Meynell 5 months ago +6

    We in Europe do not except radicalised mentality of many who follow Islam ,millions have decided to come to Europe rather than on fifty Muslims countries ,many of us are alarmed by this religion ,we have been christian countries for more than five hundred years ,and migrates must understand when they come to our or other Christian countries they must understand ,they come here and must adhere to our culture and beliefs not the other way round .

    • Yousef Alshaikh
      Yousef Alshaikh 5 months ago +1

      muslims adhere how they can adhere and wont change their beliefs at all as that would make them change their belief systems and result to them not being muslims at all and many countries in europe are not christian countries but christian majority countries and are secular nations
      muslims come to live their lives not to attack other people so i do not see a reason for you to be alarmed and 99 percent of muslims do not have a radical mentality so there is no reason for your RADICAL mentality

  • Kishan Zala
    Kishan Zala Year ago +9

    "Respect" is key to harmony.
    Politics is dangerous.

    • Mohammed Zaid
      Mohammed Zaid 4 months ago

      ​@Truth Prevails
      You claimed that there is no refer to the angel as Jibreel unless from Waraqah R.A in islamic scripture, and when i gave you an authentic hadith empathizing that Jibreel addressed himself in name,

      you criticized the reliability of that narration, which is extremely strange and unpredictable (from a Christian).

      Quran and sunnah are delivered to us both scripturally and orally,

      with a chain of known, connected, and authenticated narrators. in this way, it's possible to check the authenticity of any predicate we have. in other words, a hadith doesn't have to be written

      to be considered authentic for a schooler as long it has a strong chain of connected authenticated narrators.

      this mechanism is completely absent in both new and old testament. therefore the old testament is rewritten many centuries after it was revealed without and clue to check how correct this rewriting is.

      the same goes with the new testament, the oldest complete codex we have for it is Codex Vaticanus which belongs to the 4th century.

      if we used your same standard of dealing with the hadith i brought to you with your book, you will end up unbelieving in it.

      and there is something i want to make it clear, we don't use the scripture of the new and old testament as an evidence because it might have some remnants of the previous revelations.

      As the Prophet PBUH said: Whatever the people of the Book tell you, do not verify them, nor falsify them, but say: We believe in Allah and His Apostle.

      If it is false, do not confirm it, and if it is right, do not falsify it.

      so, me using those books is to confront you with what you believe in not for that i believe it's completely true.

      You can't use the word (Son of God) as an evidence for Jibreel because the term (son of god) isn't restricted for Jesus PBUH in your scripture, which is obvious

      Luke (20:36): and they can no longer die; for they are like the angels. They are God’s children, since they are children of the resurrection.

      Luke (11:2): He said to them, “When you pray, say: “‘Father.

      Matthew (6:1): “Be careful not to practice your righteousness in front of others to be seen by them. If you do, you will have no reward from your Father in heaven.

      hence this particular name doesn't add any more meaning than a good servant of the God for whom it's given for.

      there is no problem in Jesus PBUH being called (son of Mary) because he has no biological father, the same goes with Adam PBUH,

      it's the will of Allah he creates what he wants by the way he wants.

      the relation between Jibreel and the Prophet PBUH is not as you think, the God sent him to condole the Prophet in his hardest years after the death of his wife and uncle, and after what he saw in Taif

      Narrated `Aisha:

      That she asked the Prophet (ﷺ) , 'Have you encountered a day harder than the day of the battle) of Uhud?"

      The Prophet (ﷺ) replied, "Your tribes have troubled me a lot, and the worse trouble was the trouble on the day of 'Aqaba when I presented myself to Ibn `Abd-Yalail bin `Abd-Kulal and he did not respond to my demand.

      So I departed, overwhelmed with excessive sorrow, and proceeded on, and could not relax till I found myself at Qarnath-Tha-alib where I lifted my head towards the sky to see a cloud shading me unexpectedly.

      I looked up and saw Gabriel in it. He called me saying, 'Allah has heard your people's saying to you, and what they have replied back to you,

      Allah has sent the Angel of the Mountains to you so that you may order him to do whatever you wish to these people.' The Angel of the Mountains called and greeted me,

      and then said, "O Muhammad! Order what you wish. If you like, I will let Al-Akh-Shabain (i.e. two mountains) fall on them."

      The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "No but I hope that Allah will let them beget children who will worship Allah Alone, and will worship None besides Him."

      Jibreel also gave signs to the Prophet PBUH one of them are the signs of the end time, for example the hadith i gave you earlier when he said: (l find the barefooted, naked,

      poor shepherds competing one another in the construction of higher buildings.") and many other prophecies which we can see obviously today.

    • Truth Prevails
      Truth Prevails 4 months ago

      @Mohammed Zaid
      Some how you did not observe the contradictions. I list few below.
      1. Angel Gabriel of Bible met 3 persons, and all the three people knew the identity of the person who interacted with them. That is, they were knowing the name of the person who spoke with them, and they were well aware that he was Angel Gabriel sent by God Almighty, Jehovah.

      Whereas no such case in case of the Stranger, the so called Jebeel of Hira cave. Islamic prophet feared that something bad may happen to him after the Stranger's strange behavior with him. It was an Arab Christian man suggested that the Stranger could be angel Gabriel of God of Bible. He died soon without getting opportunity to confirm his suggestion.
      .
      2. Neither God nor Jebreel himself, or any other person ever revealed the identity of Jebreel! Till today he remains a total Stranger, except for some hadiths written after 200 years after the death of Islamic prophet.

      3. Stranger tried to scare the Islamic prophet, whereas in case of biblical encounters of Angel Gabriel, he tried to develop trust and confidence and tried to remove fear from the people he met.

      4. Angel Gabriel spoke about a Son that Mary will soon deliver, as Son of Most High, Son of God etc. Whereas Jebreel spoke about a son of Mary! We normally call the person who is responsible for the birth of a child as his father! Whereas who was responsible for birth of Issas in Quran? How can he be only son of Mary alone? How can Mary alone give birth to a son?

      5. Angel Gabriel give verifiable signs to both Priest Zechariah and Mary. Whereas no such case about Jebreel.

      In short, Jebreel of Quran got nothing to do with God of Bible or His angel Gabriel!

    • Mohammed Zaid
      Mohammed Zaid 4 months ago

      @Truth Prevails
      No contradiction, if your standard is frightening then you believe that Danial was frightened when he saw him,
      If your standard is violence then you believe that Jacob wrestled with an angel.

    • Truth Prevails
      Truth Prevails 4 months ago

      @Mohammed Zaid Main issue is the contradictions in the message! Didn't you observe it?

    • Mohammed Zaid
      Mohammed Zaid 4 months ago

      ​@Truth Prevails
      If your argument was based on the messenger was unknown till waraqah R.A verified him, this hadith refutes it

      The Messenger of Allah (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) said: “He came to me whilst I was sleeping, bringing a cover of brocade in which there was a written document,

      and he said: ‘Read!’ I said: ‘What should I read?’ Then he pressed me to him until I thought that I would die, then he released me and said: ‘Read!’ I said: ‘What should I read?’

      I only said that so that he would not do the same thing to me again. He said: ‘Recite in the name of your Lord who created - … Taught man that which he knew not’ [al-‘Alaq 96:1-5].

      So I recited it. Then he stopped and went away. I got up from my sleep, and it was as if those words were inscribed on my heart. when I was halfway up the mountain,

      I heard a voice from heaven saying: ‘O Muhammad! You are indeed the Messenger of Allah and I am Jibreel.’ I looked up, and saw Jibreel in the form of a man, with his feet astride the horizon,

      saying: ‘O Muhammad! You are indeed the Messenger of Allah and I am Jibreel.’” SAHEH AL-SEERAH AL-NABAWIYAH (1/87)

      If you said that Jibreel revealed to the Prophet PBUH without wetnessers, this hadith refutes it:

      'Umar bin Al-Khattab (May Allah be pleased with them) said:

      Once we were sitting in the company of Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) when there appeared a man dressed in very white clothes and having extraordinary black hair.

      No signs of fatigue of journey appeared on him and he was known to none of us.

      He sat down facing the Prophet (ﷺ) leaning his knees against the knees of the Prophet (ﷺ) and placing both of his palms over his two thighs and said, "O Muhammad (ﷺ)!

      Tell me about Islam". He (ﷺ) replied, "Islam is to testify that none has the right to be worshipped but Allah, and that Muhammad (ﷺ) is the Messenger of Allah;

      that you observe Salat (prayers), pay Zakat, observe Saum (fasting) of Ramadan and perform Hajj (pilgrimage) of the House, provided you have resources of making journey to it."

      He replied: "You have spoken the truth." We were surprised to see that he had asked him and confirmed the correctness of the answers. He then enquired: "Tell me about Iman."

      He (ﷺ) said: "It is to believe in Allah, His angels, His Books, His Messengers and the Last Day and that you believe in preordainment (destiny), its bad and good consequences."

      He said, "You have spoken the truth." He then enquired: "Tell me about Ihsan." He (ﷺ) said, "It is to worship Allah as if you are seeing Him; and although you do not see Him, He sees you.

      " He enquired: "Inform me about the Hour (i.e., the Day of Resurrection)." He (ﷺ) replied, "I have no more knowledge thereof than you". He said, "Inform me about some of its signs."

      He (ﷺ) said, "They are - that a bondswoman gives birth to her own master, and that you will find the barefooted, naked,

      poor shepherds competing one another in the construction of higher buildings." Then he departed. The Messenger of Allah kept silent for a while then he said to me,

      "O 'Umar! Do you know who the questioner was?" I replied, "Allah and His Messenger know better." The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "He was Jibril (Gabriel); he came to you to teach you your religion."

      [Sahih Muslim]

      the rest of your argument is about Jibril calling the God a name other than Jehovah, while Jesus PBUH calls him Eli

      and the thing that i didn't get well is that pressing the prophet is necessarily a misbehavior, why it should be, our schoolers have many interpretations for this act.

      if you mean that it's frightening to the Prophet PBUH then look first to his story with Daniel PBUH.

      i can't get your argument

      his dialogue with Mary and Zakariya are mentioned in the Quran in a similar way to that you quoted, where is the contradiction i don't find it.

  • ufo
    ufo Year ago +4

    she could have slayed it ... but , she compromised it on one point . which made the sharpness of the debate diminutive.

  • Andy
    Andy 5 months ago +1

    Accept that hatred exists. Preach no hatred but accept the fact that hatred does exist.

  • King Aragorn II
    King Aragorn II 2 months ago +10

    *Bruh, that lady is chatting the most poo. Lmao.*

    She's victim blaming, and claiming to be a victim. The contradictions is hilarious. There was countless of females in that hall that are wearing hijabs, that are giggling.

    *She's literally retracting her statements... Some circus...*

    • Helix 8
      Helix 8 2 months ago

      Agree

      She compared islam THE WHOLE RELIGION and its followers to iran sa and Pakistan without going in to how these countries became this way and who caused them to change (ahem saudi arabia)

      The way she compared Muslims islam islamists and terrorism would be like me pointing to the brutality of the Mexican and Columbian cartels and its members and saying "this is latinoism it is coming for us Latino Latino drug cartel Chavez ahh all same shit all criminalez"

      To me it was obvious that she didn't want to criticize Iran saudi or these other countries
      She wanted to criticize islam and mix up islam with the rest of this stuff

      If someone is going to have a debate they need to be clear and concise and recognize the situation and history in these places before criticizing the whole religion

  • laeeque nadvi
    laeeque nadvi 7 months ago

    Prophet Mohammad (pbuh) is mentioned in oldest religious books of Hindu as Kalki Avtar(کلکی اوتار) -- last prophet.

    The Vedas are 4000 years old according to Hindu scholars of Vedas.
    Dr. Zakir Naik made it very clear in his lectures on Kalki Avtar refering
    to to their original references--- Vedas.
    The details mentioned in Hindu's
    scriptures are astonishing. We do not find so much details in any other
    religious scriptures.

    What is the real source of these detail? Who could have told all these facts 4000 years ago .

    Ofcource no common man but a prophet.Who is that prophet?
    It comes to my mind that may be ‌‌نوح عليه السلام( prophet Noah).
    (pbuh). He is the oldest prophet mentioned in in Qur'an Torah.
    Hindus know Mano. Who is this Mano ( منو )؟ May be Noah.

    Allah knows best.

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  • Eduardo Fangueiro
    Eduardo Fangueiro 7 months ago +11

    This aged well - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tariq_Ramadan ; "In November 2017, Tariq Ramadan took leave of absence from Oxford to contest allegations of rape and sexual misconduct.[10] The university's statement noted that an "agreed leave of absence implies no acceptance or presumption of guilt".[4] In February 2018, he was formally charged with raping two women: a disabled woman in 2009 and a feminist activist in 2012.[11][12] In September 2019, the French authorities have expanded the investigation against Ramadan, already charged with raping two women, to include evidence from two more alleged victims.[13] On 5 December 2019, a Swiss woman who had accused him of rape in 2018, launched a new case against him for slander.[14] In February 2020, Ramadan was formally charged with raping two more women[15] and in October 2020, Ramadan was formally charged with raping a fifth woman.[16]"

    • Daniel Yardley
      Daniel Yardley 3 months ago

      @ẜRᴇᴇᴢᴇR It's too late your biggest scholars tell us all we need to know, You can't defend what is in the quran It's disgusting e.g child marriage etc etc etc.

    • Truth Prevails
      Truth Prevails 4 months ago +2

      Islam stands on the words of one total Stranger who misbehaved with an innocent man, the Islamic prophet at Hira Cave without any provocation. The Stranger caught hold of him and pressed him! He never introduced himself or revealed his name. He never claimed he was sent by God of Abraham, Jehovah. This Stranger got no witness whatsoever till date! It was an old man, an Arab Christian who suggested that the Stranger who appeared at Hira Cave could be Angel Gabriel of Bible! However he died soon without verifying the matter further or confirming it!

      Nowhere in Quran it says explicitly that the above person who met Islamic prophet at Hira cave was angel Gabriel send by God of Abraham, the true Creator God.

      Islam stands on the words of above Stranger, the so called Jibreel! What this Stranger spoke is the absolute reference for 1.80 billion Muslims! They compare even the words of Holy God of Bible, Jesus Christ, Moses, David etc with what this Stranger spoke! If their words match with the words of this Stranger, it is acceptable. Otherwise it is rejected! It is considered corrupted! How sad!

      Whereas God of Bible cautioned about this Stranger long before in His word. Listen to the following Bible verses please.

      1 John 2: 22 Who is the liar but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ? This is the antichrist, he who denies the Father and the Son. 23 No one who denies the Son has the Father. Whoever confesses the Son has the Father also. 24 Let what you heard from the beginning abide in you. If what you heard from the beginning abides in you, then you too will abide in the Son and in the Father. 25 And this is the promise that he made to us-eternal life. 26 I write these things to you about those who are trying to deceive you.

      For details :-

      www.quora.com/What-evidence-do-you-have-that-the-Quran-isn-t-true/answer/Annee-Aikara

    • Luaai Zamil
      Luaai Zamil 5 months ago

      So what is this new "moral rape"?
      Interviewed in February 2019 by investigators, these two women had told how this "manipulator" had dragged them each, in 2015 and 2016, into a virtual "dominant-dominated" relationship before a brutal date. "It is of a different order than a physical rape, (...) there is moral rape," the second explained. "But this relationship was consented to, yes. There should be another offence for these kinds of people"she added.

      Before her, four other women accused the preacher between 2017 and 2019. One of them, nicknamed "Elvira", recently backtracked and did not respond to the latest summonses from the courts. However, the investigators would like to be able to question her, but two attempts to interview her in November and December failed and she did not appear before the judges in mid-January.

      Seems like a false accusation to me. #Metoo
      Since then, one of her lawyers,Philippe Soussi, has given up representing her. "I cannot defend her interests if she does not want to go to the summonses and explain herself before the magistrates", regretsthe criminal lawyer from Nice. Asked by Le Figaro about the reasons for this refusal, Me Soussi did not wish to answer, describing only a "woman in great psychological suffering".
      Source - www.lefigaro.fr/actualite-france/affaire-ramadan-apres-deux-ans-d-investigations-ou-en-est-l-enquete-20200213

  • SuperCricket2020
    SuperCricket2020 11 months ago +3

    Why she is ready from paper I think she is give questions week in hand . This is match fixing.😂😂😂

  • musaputans 65
    musaputans 65 5 months ago +8

    i hope someone translates this debate to indonesian. Thanks. ☺🙏

    • Shan Khan
      Shan Khan 4 months ago

      @Afud101 Well, judging by your English it seems to be a case of the pot calling the kettle back but I am 29

    • Afud101
      Afud101 4 months ago

      @Shan Khan you are certainly dont seem to be "educated" yourself... how old are you exactly?

    • Shan Khan
      Shan Khan 5 months ago +1

      @مريم ءالاء It means Islam and enlightenment and education don't go together

    • مريم ءالاء
      مريم ءالاء 5 months ago

      @Shan Khan what you mean?

    • Shan Khan
      Shan Khan 5 months ago +1

      @Adib Rayyan It means listen to madrassah mullahs and not to educated people otherwise you might lose your faitj

  • lutalo mbabazi
    lutalo mbabazi 10 months ago +4

    Thank you for that Educative speech most importantly that lady who seems to confuse facts.

  • MaDHaX
    MaDHaX 4 months ago +3

    IT IS COMMON KNOWLEDGE

    IF U WANT TO BE RESPECTED

    THEN U SHOULD LEARN HOW TO RESPECT

    & RU-clip SHOULD SORT OUT THEIR PRIORITIES OF WHATS R8GHT & WRONG

    • Zap Thats cap
      Zap Thats cap 4 months ago

      @Ag Be god bless you

    • Zap Thats cap
      Zap Thats cap 4 months ago

      @Ag Be wow your are very educated on islam nice bro

    • MaDHaX
      MaDHaX 4 months ago

      @Ag Be i dont need to read a western propaganda artical or book that disrespects our Prophet. This fake humanitarian western so called democratic capitalist pig system is on the rise to fall anyway. What comes after that will only lead to humanities destruction because of their greed. Mohammad (PBUH) was not greedy and didnt even claim to own land much like the wesern facists that want to own everything.

      If u cannot find within ur heart to respect our beloved Prophet then how do you expect us Muslims to respect u ?

    • Ag Be
      Ag Be 4 months ago

      @MaDHaX
      First read " The Cira" that's the life story of Muhammad and then tell me what type of men he was and where he shows his humanity.

    • MaDHaX
      MaDHaX 4 months ago

      @Ag Be a good question, i believe a religion that is not a materealistic one it also needs to be free from corrupt human minds. The core of the 3 main religions is humanitarian rights and how we should treat each other, greed and corruption will destroy our planet as they suck up resources from the entire globe, flattening mountains, poluting the rivers and the sea and cutting down trees which is the earths lungs. I think its time for a great public debate, evolution theory vs the GOD theory and then put GOD back into politics becaouse a GODLESS society causes vile corruption and greed to the point that our planet will be left lifeless

  • Yul Kinantan
    Yul Kinantan 10 months ago +2

    Kamis tgl 11.3.2021
    Assalamu'alaikum maaf ustadz, kenapa pengertian Hadist menurut kata/firman/wahyu Allah SWT Tuhan (Al-Quran) tidak sama dengan pengertian Hadist menurut imam Syafei, Hambali, Hanafi, Maliki, Tirmidzi, Bukhari, Muslim, Ibnu Majah, Abu Dawud, Malik Bin Anas dan lain-lain, serta sebagian besar ulama sampai sekarang ini ustadz.?

    • King Melon
      King Melon 4 months ago

      maka dgn itu hadist adalah penting . kerana Alquran menggalakkan manusia untuk berfikir . dalam konteks memukul isteri itu jika kita berfikir tiada hadist drpd Muhammad akan terjadi kesalahfahaman . Muhammad adalah orang yang paling berhati murni . Kerana itu dia sudah berfikir dahulu dan hadist nya masuk akal

    • King Melon
      King Melon 4 months ago

      contohnya di dalam Alquran membenarkan suami untuk memukul isterinya lalu muhammad menterjemahkan maksudnya memukul dalam bersyarat

    • King Melon
      King Melon 4 months ago

      bro . Alquran ialah kata2 Allah . tetapi hadist adalah ajaran drpd Muhammad utk kalian lebih mengerti apa yang Allah sampaikan . Paham nggak ?

  • Denis O'Sullivan
    Denis O'Sullivan 4 months ago +32

    Blasphemy laws give murderers cover. The professor has a dictatorial "You are saying" attitude.

    • Mathew Samuel
      Mathew Samuel 2 months ago

      @Live Togo Why should betraying one's country ever equate to leaving a religion or even saying negative things about that religion?

    • Mathew Samuel
      Mathew Samuel 2 months ago

      @Live Togo There should be no reason at that can be justified for killing a person who denounces a religion. You can never justify this at all. God can't order it. There should be no reason why it should exist in Islam.

    • Binay Dhawa
      Binay Dhawa 3 months ago

      @Live Togo I'm not blaming any religion,
      Each and every religion has it's own beauty and their own flaws, I'm not pointing out one religion is better than the other.

      You talk about hindus killing muslim in India, but if you look at the history how many hindus have been killed by islam, how many temples were destroyed in the name of islam, if you look at state sponsored terrorism how much did Pakistan play a role in destabilizing Jammu and Kashmir, how many people were forcefully converted, How many people lost their lives in the french bombing? You talk about Afghanistan where US army raped women.. yes those acts must be condemned but how many women were stoned to death before Us invaded Afghanistan? How many women were barred from studying? How many Hindus were targeted? Do you even know the pre vedic scriptures that have destroyed because of such ideology? Those were scriptures written by our ancestors !!
      Scholars usually hide behind such events speaking those are done by extremist groups which is true extremism is pathetic in the name of religion.

      By this I'm not saying your religion is Bad but I'm saying how it isn't free of wronghood which is why law should exist. Christianity possibly had a role in dividing countries around the world, Hitler's perhaps did use some doctrine by using some religious pretext. Had people not been so gullible, genocides could have been prevented.

      Regarding the creation of the universe, as I said that is upto the person. You can be a scientist and totally reject religion or you can be a religious man and follow a religion, It shouldn't matter because the creator and creation have many interpretation, Budhhism and Hinduism have schools of thought that have existed over thousands of years even before Christian and Islamic occupation of India which help us understand such concept, psychological practises are hugely influenced by them. Are you going to simply going to deny that something existed before such religion came to be.

      Religion should be free of choice, as a person shouldn't be barred to practise religion so shouldn't religion force people to practise it by using pseudo scientific claims.

      Any person today can write a book making science the new religion and put in their own ideas such as those who don't believe in science are condemned to hell those who do are going to heaven. It would even make more sense because science can even go so far to prove certain facts using maths.

    • Live Togo
      Live Togo 3 months ago

      @Binay Dhawa first of all islam, christianity and Jewish they all have the same law, but as always we see in the media "Islam did" "Islam do", no one could talk about the other religions, today in india hinduism people are killing Muslim just for being muslim kids, women and men but no one talk, Afghanitan during the 20years American soldiers raped Afghanistan kids, killed them at school, and when they leave ,so Taliban take control of the country they start to worry about women "oh women right""oh we are afraid about the right of women with Taliban governement"... but they forgot there crime against this Afghanistan women whom they raped her child, they didn't know how much she will suffer to move on in her life and she observe how they destroyed her family, her kids,there future, such a hypocrisy, don't talk to me about your law, a law that comdamne killing and in other hand they are killing kids, women and old person without any reason just because they need to see blood.
      instead of verifying my law start verifying yours first.
      before you talk about religion and Charia first of all try to know if there is a Creator or not, if there is a Creator of this universe you should know that a creator that created us, shouldn't leave us without guidance, because the only one who knows what is better for us is the Creator, human didn't created themselves nor the universe so don't tell me that we will know better than the one who created us.
      if you don't believe or you don't want to seek for the truth, then i have nothing to explain for you because you will never understand all Islamic laws with a close mind.

    • Binay Dhawa
      Binay Dhawa 3 months ago +1

      @Live Togo First of all I'm neither white nor Christian,
      I don't quite understand how law and religion can actually be the same thing, laws change with time which is why they are respected, yes they may or may not hold values to religion, examples: patriarchy existed in society and now it's slowly getting removed because we're not as dependent on muscles as we used to so laws for equality are now there because quite frankly it makes sense for a counter argument not to occur in a society,, this should and will change over the course of time because that's how humanity has always been,
      A state can follow a religious practise for pertain values adherent to a religion definitely calling themselves a christian state, muslim state but what exactly do they refer to it by such statements??
      When you put authority over a god head what you follow isn't going be according to god but according to someone who wrote them or translated them in most cases, Different people have different definitions of god , it's a fallacy to even assume there's only one way to practise religion

      Yet what shocks me to see today is that people don't try to practise what morality has been preached by religion but simply use it because they don't wish to end up in hell. What is hell? What is heaven? Can one person's heaven be the same as the other? I've heard some people say heaven is filled with beautiful girls then what happens to the girls in heaven?

      The whole concept of binding such concept as an excuse in my opinion is a very wrong way to practise religion. If you wish to string Hitler to religion then you should also have no problem when people promote radical islamists with terrorism

      And finally traitors are to be tried upon by law not religion in my opinion. If a person has defected from Iran to Pakistan. Does that mean he is not a traitor? And the whole debate pretty much proves the point of why it's been so difficult to change a society retaining its religion over sensibility.

  • Yul Kinantan
    Yul Kinantan 10 months ago

    Sabtu tgl.27 februari 2021 jam 05.00 wib
    Assalamu'alaikum warrahmatullahi wabarakatuh Habib..?

    Kata dan pendapat Ulama dalam beragama belum lah tentu sama dengan kata Tuhan, seharusnya kata Tuhan lah yang dikatakan oleh Ulama Kepada umat. itulah cara beragama yang benar yang lurus dan jujur, membuat kebohongan terhadap Allah tidak akan beruntung. sebagaimana dijelaskan dalam Al-Quran surat An-Najm ( 53 ) ayat 3 dan ayat 4, surat Yunus ( 10 ) ayat 19 dan ayat 32, surat Ali-Imran ( 3 ) ayat 24, surat An-Nisa' ( 4 ) ayat 87, surat Al-Musalat ( 77 ) ayat 50, surat Al-Hajj ( 22 ) ayat 67, surat Al-Ahqaf ( 46 ) ayat 11, surat Al-Hijr ( 15 ) ayat 41.

  • Nisar Ahmed
    Nisar Ahmed 3 months ago

    Great debate

  • Jal lal
    Jal lal 4 months ago +8

    Blind and Xtreme freedom of expression is also considered as a type of fanaticism. Therefore fanaticism interacts with fanaticism.

  • Prabhakar Iyer
    Prabhakar Iyer Year ago +1

    Stop defining , stop for once, help me from using harsh terms, dinosaur had its stint.

  • the great day.
    the great day. 4 months ago +22

    “Heaven is a great excuse for hell in the world”

    • el-qbayyli
      el-qbayyli 3 months ago

      @mystery miss RU-clip keeps deleting my comments exposing the Talmud readers (like your self nosey) because RU-clip among other things is controlled by them.

    • mystery miss
      mystery miss 3 months ago +1

      @el-qbayyli those who believe in Talmud do not go arround blowing up people or chanting death to others for a cartoon.

    • Hans Wurst
      Hans Wurst 3 months ago

      The name Yehoshua has the form of a compound of "Yeho-" and "shua": Yeho- יְהוֹ⁠‎ is another form of יָהו‎ Yahu, a theophoric element standing for the name of God יהוה (the Tetragrammaton YHWH, sometimes transcribed into English as Yahweh), and שׁוּעַ⁠‎ shua‘ is a noun meaning "a cry for help", "a saving cry",[12][13][14] that is to say, a shout given when in need of rescue.

    • Hans Wurst
      Hans Wurst 3 months ago

      **the name Jesus alone confirms the proper name YHWH! Over 900 times in the new Testament Because Jesus means "YHWH SAVES!"**

      Because the name YHWH is HOLY, it is seldom pronounced! That's why the ignorant of Koran writer didn't know about these Proper name;)!

    • Samsun Nahar
      Samsun Nahar 3 months ago

      @Hans Wurst and Yeshua/Ishoh/I'sha/I'sa means Saved by GOD

  • Faria Farzana
    Faria Farzana 16 days ago +1

    I wonder what’s freedom mean when they say eveyone has freedom like bruh then what’s wrong if I choose to wear hijab then, why does it become oppressed automatically smh.

  • Behtaj
    Behtaj 4 months ago

    Great debate.

  • Sega Sissoko
    Sega Sissoko 5 months ago +3

    full of important imformation love learning with you

  • Atul Anand
    Atul Anand Year ago +124

    Tbh, the first guy's question was not answered by either of them. The whole session felt more like personal attack on each other.

    • Patate Potato
      Patate Potato 2 months ago

      @Jasper Lee tell us

    • Excellero
      Excellero 2 months ago +1

      53:46 Islam doesn't need reform but muslim minds need reform

    • Saddam Hussain
      Saddam Hussain 3 months ago

      @Ashir Gujjar you are brutally killing muslims in India under numerous POGROM.

    • Hans Wurst
      Hans Wurst 3 months ago

      **HAHA My friend don'tplay stupid !! Because the fact is that the Koran writer didn't even know what Christians believe in! And if Paul has CORRUPTED the Bible in the 1st century or not, it doesn't change the fact that according to the Koran Allah has no idea about Christianity and that in the 7th century!!!**

    • Hans Wurst
      Hans Wurst 3 months ago

      **⚠️ CHESS MATT !! ⚠️ (Paul DESTROYS Islam "The Islam Paul Paradox") PAUL is said to have CORRUPTED the Bible, according to Muslims! Paul lived at the time of Jesus = beginning to the middle of the 1st century! Why then does the Koran writer in the 7th century know nothing about Paul's teaching?* Why do Muslims always think of Paul corrupting the Bible? Allah doesn't even know what Paul taught according to the Koran !! (So no matter if Paul CORRUPTED the Bible, the Koran is proven FALSE!)

      Allah knows nothing of a TRINITY !! And that in the 7th century! Trinity = the 1 YHWH!

      According to the Koran, Allah believes: Christians believe in 3 gods! Allah + MARIA + Jewish Hercules !! (PAULUS never said)

      According to the Koran, Allah believes: Jesus is a Jewish Hercules (newly created GOD) in Christianity! (PAULUS never said)

      Allah has no idea that the ETERNAL GOD himself became a man! Because he believes there is a 2 newly created God in Christianity!

  • Khadija Bashir
    Khadija Bashir Year ago

    In all of the following verses, and "many" of other verses of the Quran, Allah Almighty is clearly saying that torah, psalms, gospel, and all other revelations of Allah Almighty except Quran had been corrupted by people...

    Chapter#2 Verse#2
    Chapter#4, Verse#105
    Chapter#15, Verse#9
    Chapter#3, Verse#19
    Chapter#3, Verse#85
    Chapter#4, verse#157
    Chapter#4,Verse#171
    Chapter#9, Verse#30

    Chapter#3, Verse#59: Verily, in the sight of Allah, the case of Jesus is like the case of Adam, whom He created with dust and then said to him, "Be," and he was. Here, Allah Almighty is saying that, the case of Jesus (PBUH) is like the case of Adam (PBUH), It means that, Adam (PBUH) had neither mother nor father, if Jesus (PBUH) had no father, then what happened..

    Chapter#2, Verse#163
    Chapter#2, Verse# 255
    Chapter#14, Verse#52
    Chapter#16, Verse#51
    Chapter#112, Verses (1-4).. that is it...

  • Cee's Content
    Cee's Content 5 months ago +10

    My personal:
    On the Second question,the Guy was telling her that she is on the emotional ground,and i feel,he is forgetting everything about his point an ideas need to present,however trying blame game,one may put what if the debate was in the market place!!. I mean,showing of what she have just said about.

  • Salehin Khan
    Salehin Khan 5 months ago

    subjective discussion is fruitless , lets understand the objective of such expression which can create such a chaos around the world ; and who is gaining benefit from it ??!! and its bring the idea that secularism provided come under microscope .