Why the NBA rivalry is dead | NBA Countdown

  • Published on Jan 10, 2019
  • Paul Pierce, Michelle Beadle, Jalen Rose and Chauncey Billups of NBA Countdown discuss the state of rivalries in the league, with the three former players declaring the rivalry dead and the days of things like Lakers vs. Celtics, Lakers vs. Pistons, Knicks vs. Pacers and others long gone.
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Comments • 580

  • Kenneth Jara
    Kenneth Jara 9 days ago

    this is why the league is so boring now!

  • Jungle Boi
    Jungle Boi Month ago

    Warriors and rockets come on open your eyes guys

  • MRbossman1982
    MRbossman1982 Month ago

    Fuck this new nba! Everybody is friends! The rookies can’t play no defenders! All dunks and 3,s! Nba was so much better in the 80,s and 90,s

  • Moshi Moshi
    Moshi Moshi Month ago

    "I thought KG didnt like Sheed they were best buddies" Both them nigga crazy as shit of course they would get along off the court lol

  • John Johnson
    John Johnson Month ago

    Too much buddy buddy shit in the NBA today that's the problem no more respectful hate in the game that's why it's a very weak league I'm a 70s and 80s so this game today doesn't even compare

  • willburd bath
    willburd bath 2 months ago

    warriors vs rockets is kinda a rivalry and before everyone left the clippers. clippers and warriors was a rivalry. comment if you agree or disagree

  • Sole Stash87
    Sole Stash87 2 months ago

    Rivalry is dead.......... the nba is dead more like it!!! 💀😪

  • Kiril Kirilov
    Kiril Kirilov 2 months ago


  • Bilbo Swaggins
    Bilbo Swaggins 2 months ago

    Men used to play in the NBA. Now its just a bunch of Nancy boys playing grab ass.

  • CooAss 74
    CooAss 74 2 months ago

    Thats hate!!!

  • Spice 0o0
    Spice 0o0 2 months ago

    Bc players don’t play for competition just a paycheck and be best friends all apart of this new era aka soft era during the gritty 90’s early 00’s I watched real teams hoop it out then shake after not during smh 🤦🏽‍♂️

  • Book of shadows contributor Brian

    Kings vs lakers a rivalry still

  • Zekkrenlol
    Zekkrenlol 2 months ago

    Not just the teams but the league has gotten soft

  • Peter
    Peter 2 months ago

    The rivalry in the NBA is dead because that lame a** commissioner changed the rules and turned the NBA into a soft preschool game.

  • Mr Poptart
    Mr Poptart 2 months ago

    I feel like there still can be a celtics and lakers rivalry especially when kyrie and lebron on the different team😂

  • Vergel Sevilla
    Vergel Sevilla 2 months ago

    Because all of them stepped up

  • Ghostkiller166
    Ghostkiller166 2 months ago +1

    I see a lot of people in the comments saying it's LeBron's fault, let me remind you that 2-3 years before that Pierce, Ray Ray, and KG all teamed up on the Celtics. KD had part of to do with the way the NBA is now but it's not solely his fault either. People are no longer at each other's throats anymore, it's all about respect for one another, which isn't really a bad thing, it just makes sports less entertaining.

    • Ghostkiller166
      Ghostkiller166 2 months ago

      +Couaovi H you're a fucking idiot bro.

    • Couaovi H
      Couaovi H 2 months ago

      Making the Allstar game doesn't mean you are in your prime! Ok they still were great performers, but they weren't in their prime! Ray Allen is a shooter, so his case does not really matter, even tho he was not athlétic anymore. KG was not in his prime. His last season with wolves before joining the Celtics he avg 22 pts/G. With Celctis he drops to 18pts/G. And in 2009 when they beat Lakers it drops to 15.8 ! You can tell KG was not in his prime anymore! Still a good defender. Paul pierce avg drops also during those times.
      So they weren't in their prime anymore! All of them were past their 30's

    • Ghostkiller166
      Ghostkiller166 2 months ago

      +Couaovi H Ray had 2 of his best seasons before joining Boston, same with Pierce. And KG was literally defensive player of the year in 08. They all made the All Star game, and Ray was the only one of the 3 that didn't make an All-NBA team. So how were they past their prime?

    • Couaovi H
      Couaovi H 2 months ago

      +Ghostkiller166 How Am I kidding? You want to compare past prime KG, past prime Ray Allen and PP with a Lebron, Wade, Bosh team?
      Do you even imagine what Pierce and KG in their prime on the same team would do? Add a deadly shooter like Ray Allen and it's done!

    • Ghostkiller166
      Ghostkiller166 2 months ago

      +Couaovi H your kidding right? Do you even watch basketball?

  • Greg Pim
    Greg Pim 2 months ago

    We just had Cavs vs warriors rivalry cmon lol

  • Justin Peterson
    Justin Peterson 2 months ago

    AAU made everybody buddy-buddy.

  • 9some
    9some 2 months ago

    remember hicks vs neats? awesome

  • Exotic Loob
    Exotic Loob 3 months ago

    People act like the Miami heat superteam was completely unstoppable. The spurs and heat produced a great competitive series that was entertaining to watch.

  • Omar OO7
    Omar OO7 3 months ago +1

    Judging by these comments, it seems people want to see another malice in the palace lmao

  • Usman Chaudry
    Usman Chaudry 3 months ago

    Pierce lowkey telling us he hated it when some of his teammates wore Lebron shoes. 😂😂😂😂

  • Luke Calum Lyonwrath
    Luke Calum Lyonwrath 3 months ago +1

    Can't have rivalries if you get a tech just by staring down someone after a nasty dunk.

  • Pepsimaru
    Pepsimaru 3 months ago

    That's the consequences you get when you wanna soften the sport as much as you can.

  • Jupiter Rebong
    Jupiter Rebong 3 months ago

    Lakers and Boston,,,,,,,

  • Gökhan Alpaslan
    Gökhan Alpaslan 3 months ago

    Stupids, it's dead because of overpaid soft ass kids, they care nothing but money and snoop lifestyle

  • Jawa
    Jawa 3 months ago

    Why is seeing NBA players dunk the coaches with Gatorade seem weird AF?

  • Franco Bradshaw
    Franco Bradshaw 3 months ago +2

    Social Media killed rivalries lol , they all friends .

  • toresssssssssssss9
    toresssssssssssss9 3 months ago

    Bitter old men

  • DanielK
    DanielK 3 months ago

    gsw and cavs were a friendship

  • Matthew Lake
    Matthew Lake 3 months ago

    So basically the NBA is soft now.

  • Dra Jackson
    Dra Jackson 3 months ago

    They considered Kobe and Pierce rivalries because of Boston and LA but Kobe was on another level way before Pierce start winning again so I disagree plus took for the big three from him to even be on the map

  • Jose Bravo
    Jose Bravo 3 months ago

    cause of all this super team non sense buncha pussies

  • mjaay
    mjaay 3 months ago

    paul need to get a rivalry with the nigga that did his line

  • Ibrahim1884
    Ibrahim1884 3 months ago

    The NBA died in 2003 when the cry baby came into the the league. It was a men’s league before, now it’s just kids jacking up 3.

  • Lexicon Prime
    Lexicon Prime 3 months ago

    Russ would have been perfect for the 90s

  • Fat Trevor
    Fat Trevor 3 months ago

    Either u hate the warriors or LeBron

  • Eugene Irwin
    Eugene Irwin 3 months ago +1

    How much salt can you have. The league is different move on. I can't stand these guys.

  • Moises Sobrepena
    Moises Sobrepena 3 months ago +2

    Lakers against Celtics 👊
    Rivalry is dead very true
    League becoming soft as well

  • Nader Bourham
    Nader Bourham 3 months ago


  • Cyril G
    Cyril G 3 months ago

    Okc’s KD vs GSW - better
    Cavs vs GSW - Great
    Boston vs Cavs/Lakers - Very Great

  • Donae Morrow
    Donae Morrow 3 months ago +1

    Rivalries arent necessary

  • Yung 4
    Yung 4 3 months ago +1

    You can’t have rivalry’s with these new rules implemented to stop just that. No beef. No fight. No trash talk or taunting. You can’t do the basic things that would lead to a beef or rivalry. That part of the game is gone.

  • Dark Monster
    Dark Monster 3 months ago +1

    Bron joined a weak team in the east so he can win multiple championships with his friends and stop the unrivaled trio in Boston.
    While KD joined the greatest NBA basketball team of all time who they got Dethroned by the King 3-1.Also KD lost to this team with a 3-1 lead and he left his team to join theirs. How are you going to compare KD and LeBron's situation when they are very different lol.
    They're not even friends,KD and Draymond are fighting every other week because Draymond thinks he's the best player on the team lol.

    • asterisk911
      asterisk911 2 months ago

      KD didn't join the "greatest team"; he joined 60% of an NBA Finals runner up's starting line-up and a team with a depleted bench that had to be hastily rebuilt. They went from "strength in numbers" to a top-heavy team.

  • That one loser on youtube

    Maybe Houston and warriors before cavs and warriors okc and warriors before

  • Jennel-Gem Tucker
    Jennel-Gem Tucker 3 months ago

    Social media is to blame too

  • Josiah Rivera
    Josiah Rivera 3 months ago

    This is the NBA not UFC. I dont wanna see people throwing hands on the court and stopping the game because they are mad at another NBA player they are rivaled against. I want to see basketball, not a bunch of grown babies fighting for no reason. Watch boxing if you want to see that shit.

  • Joey Paderanga
    Joey Paderanga 3 months ago

    paul pierce be talking about signature shoes hahaha cuz you only have them in kids size

  • Joèl Joèl
    Joèl Joèl 3 months ago

    They have the only people that beat Kobe in the finals 🤔

  • Dennis Menace
    Dennis Menace 3 months ago

    NBA is just a suck fest now lol No hate, all fake like WWE. No rivalries just a bunch of dudes playing against each other to get a bag.

  • Christian Rivera
    Christian Rivera 3 months ago +1

    Cause people are waking the fuck up 😂 Ain’t nobody taking these childish ass “rivalries” seriously anymore. That’s 80s white boy shit. Everybody on the court got talent, and worked to get to where they at. Why’s it gotta be tuff guy shit 24/7?

  • Rusty Shackleford
    Rusty Shackleford 3 months ago

    They are dead because they dont see a rivalry. All the players in the off season act like girls and get together for sleep overs and pillow fights. If you dont play on my team, I dont hang out with you PERIOD!

  • DRoyale1
    DRoyale1 3 months ago +2

    Having a rivalry is fine...but whenever this topic comes up, I gather that ppl seem to want these brothas to throw hands during the game, at a restaurant, during the off season...like it’s supposed to be “on sight”....there is such thing as wanting to defeat your opponent with no malice behind it. They don’t have to hate each other ball up...and the twist is, when dudes do act like that and want do harm to each other on the court or otherwise...all a sudden they’re “thugs” and “there’s no place for that stuff in the game” and what not...so what if a great player goes to another team, most ppl are angry because he didn’t go to YOUR team...let these guys just ball

  • Detroit Mi Dunkin
    Detroit Mi Dunkin 3 months ago

    Next episode Lebron James going to the Knicks 😁😂🤣

  • Evan Roderick
    Evan Roderick 3 months ago

    Lol people are nicer and they complain? Wtf if wrong with media

  • Nintendo Prime
    Nintendo Prime 3 months ago

    Don't tell Giannis that. Guy won't even work out with you if you aren't on his team or retired. Dude doesn't even want to associate. Give you zero edge on his game.

    • Nintendo Prime
      Nintendo Prime 3 months ago

      +mjaay that "idiot" is really damn good at basketball and worked his wait up from peddling fake rolex's on the streets in Greece. Who cares that he has a think accent.

    • mjaay
      mjaay 3 months ago

      giannis is an idiot. and his voice don't have the energy he tries to portray

  • mike gritzbach
    mike gritzbach 3 months ago +11

    There's a team out there with 5 all stars and yall mad at Lebron trying to recruit players like AD and others....THEY HAVE 5 ALL STARS. Lakers dont even have 2. Any other team that has a "realistic" shot of a championship has at least 2. OKC and Houston for example also Toronto. KD ruined Cavs vs GSW. The Celtics were pretty deep and Lebron had a trash squad of course he left and wanted to maximize his chances of winning and stop wasting his prime because to yall "SiX iS BeTtER tHAn..." Of AD goes somewhere yall are gonna kill him even tho he sitting in a market where he'll never win a championship same with Kemba. I don't care if they average 40 they're not winning a chip without a squad.

    • David Murphy
      David Murphy Month ago

      mike gritzbach period

    • Lamar Sellers
      Lamar Sellers 2 months ago

      mike gritzbach LeBron literally joined a 1st team all NBA guard in D-Wade and brought along a 2nd team all NBA guy in Bosh... The Warriors and KD just did something he’d never thought would happen and one upped him!! LBJ stacking the deck cost KD a ring in OKC

  • William Emery
    William Emery 3 months ago

    Larry Bird vs Magic Johnson was the best rivalry in the NBA

  • Hakeem Simon
    Hakeem Simon 3 months ago +1

    Whatever team lebron is on vs. the warriors duh !!

  • driiifter
    driiifter 3 months ago

    Banana boat and practicing together in the off season killed rivalry. Too much money maybe.

  • Gin2341
    Gin2341 3 months ago

    Is this ESPN's ploy to make other all star players to Join Lebron James?

  • superoliwer997
    superoliwer997 3 months ago

    Social media

  • Moonroof
    Moonroof 3 months ago

    Rivalry is good for the game

  • Urisan Yoshimitsu
    Urisan Yoshimitsu 3 months ago

    Warriors Vs Cavs could've been an all time great rivalry but Lebrons supporting cast had to ruin it

  • Michael A
    Michael A 3 months ago

    But jaylen won’t bring up that Kobe game 🤣

  • Jamal Abdelbaset
    Jamal Abdelbaset 3 months ago

    But the Pacers DID win the series the year Reggie had the 8 points in 8 seconds. Jalen’s lost there. It was the year before where they lost.

  • Astor Wainwright
    Astor Wainwright 3 months ago

    Lebron changed the league, it's a buddy buddy league now. Before you destroy your best friend on the court.

  • Vikram Reddy Eedhula
    Vikram Reddy Eedhula 3 months ago

    Kevin SNAKE Durant is the reason why NBA rivalry is dead

  • Dennis Gabah
    Dennis Gabah 3 months ago

    Fuck lebron, team up with wade n bosh, he said not 1,2,3 allat he knew he would win

  • Jonathan Poon
    Jonathan Poon 3 months ago

    There’s more beefs than team rivalry.

  • Just Cruz
    Just Cruz 3 months ago

    Rivalries are dead because of KD. Fight me. Actually don’t even bother, y’all know I’m right.

  • Aries Anderson
    Aries Anderson 3 months ago

    Back in the day players used hate each other on the court it was very competetive
    Magic vs bird
    Badboypistons vs bulls

  • Turbo
    Turbo 3 months ago

    People are ignoring the rule changes. Alot easier to hate a guy/team when theyre sticking it to you and playing rough and physical.

  • TheMrMantequilla
    TheMrMantequilla 3 months ago

    I think the biggest factor is that in the current nba you need 2/3 all stars and super stars to compete for a championship so these guys aren’t trying to hate on each other cause they need to team up to win.

  • BR Rider
    BR Rider 3 months ago

    Everyone blames Bron..KD..
    I heard Paul/KG/Allen started it..
    Nobody remembers Karl Malone and Gary Payton joining Shaq and Kobe in 2004?

  • jmarcguy
    jmarcguy 3 months ago

    I remember Magic & Bird but my favorite time was watching Knicks & Bulls. Knicks & Pacers. Bulls & Pacers. Knicks & Heat. Those games were intense.

  • Ike Mike
    Ike Mike 3 months ago

    Old heads forever hating

  • DCDannyEfilms
    DCDannyEfilms 3 months ago

    The closest thing that i see can happen is Fox (Kings) vs Lonzo (Lakers) they had two close games and fox was making fun of lonzos defense by saying he didn’t lock him down by showing highlights on his ipad

  • Giovone Mendoza
    Giovone Mendoza 3 months ago

    I think the Spurs still have a rivalry with the Lakers regardless of what they say

  • sojjaz
    sojjaz 3 months ago

    because Allstars on the same damn team and shit....facking gay

  • Aime Lunio
    Aime Lunio 3 months ago

    Its beggin in warriors
    5 all star player

  • Defy_Jay
    Defy_Jay 3 months ago

    Warriors and Kings going to be the next big rivalry . Watch

  • Jsimm100
    Jsimm100 3 months ago

    NBA Rivalry's died when the league focused only on "Superstars" and less on teams.

  • MrOunce3
    MrOunce3 3 months ago

    Rivalries are dead because Lebron been to the last 8 finals and even when he loses he doesnt care. He doesnt seek revenge. He keeps running.

  • PurpleCity817 G.S.W
    PurpleCity817 G.S.W 3 months ago

    Lebron killed all that shit,friendly ass

  • Ganja Garnett
    Ganja Garnett 3 months ago

    Jordan was to great to have a rival..

  • I Don't Care
    I Don't Care 3 months ago +1

    *Whats that instrumental in the background damn!*

  • Nolay Austin
    Nolay Austin 3 months ago

    The rivalry is dead because players switch sides and ring chase too much now 💀

  • Manny Mota
    Manny Mota 3 months ago +10

    That's why I don't watch basketball anymore. No more rivalries. Everyone is friends with each other. No one plays defense. Traveling like crazy and 3 point shooting. No Team work!

    • EVERYTHING ! !
      EVERYTHING ! ! 2 months ago

      Manny Mota it’s pretty lame that your not watching
      Even though there’s a lot of bs literally everyone watches it

    • John Flanagan
      John Flanagan 3 months ago +2

      +Jay Money most people just watch espn videos without watching the games. thats why there are so many "bad takes" from nba fans.

    • Jay Money
      Jay Money 3 months ago +4

      Manny Mota Why are you here then... Niggas be lyin they ass off...

  • Tank Jackson
    Tank Jackson 3 months ago

    Houston and lakers can be a rivalry and Boston vs philly Boston vs Toronto Toronto vs Milwaukee golden state vs Durant

  • Tommy Walker
    Tommy Walker 3 months ago

    Why does jalen rose have more hair noe than he had back then?

  • Delbert Grady
    Delbert Grady 3 months ago

    When Lebron joined Dwade it was over .

  • Ph.40 Lowk
    Ph.40 Lowk 3 months ago

    Jalen shouldnt be on this panel

  • Compton 187
    Compton 187 3 months ago

    0:15 😂

  • Emanuel
    Emanuel 3 months ago +1

    I don't understand why people are advocating FOR hate in the comments. Being friendly with your peers wins championships. LeBron played with his friends in Miami and GSW weaponized joy. What has hate gotten Russell Westbrook? Knee injuries and ZERO rings.

    • Emanuel
      Emanuel 3 months ago

      +Devin Harris LeBron and KD don't hate. Guess they've never played sports before either

    • Devin Harris
      Devin Harris 3 months ago

      Emanuel I can tell you’ve never played sports before

  • Les davis jr
    Les davis jr 3 months ago

    perfect question

  • Mirmoney Bryant14
    Mirmoney Bryant14 3 months ago

    Here’s why......

    The NBA Is as SOFT As a Babies Ass and Niggas wanna Team Up Like Pussies #LonzoSoftAf #AskKD #AskBron

  • Eddie Tarantino
    Eddie Tarantino 3 months ago

    As a Sixers fan I'd like to say that we have a rivalry with Boston but they beat our ass every time because our bench is trash compared to theirs

  • Jeremy Birk
    Jeremy Birk 3 months ago

    Beadle was involved with the feminists vs. mysoginists rivalry.