Mods In Beat Saber

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Comments • 194

  • Craig O
    Craig O 4 months ago

    Thanks guys, love your game, it's the reason I bought my quest! But I did search and search to make sure it would be able to handle custom maps, before giving up on knowing and just buying with my fingers crossed (and searching every day after getting it) And yay for the mod community for figuring it out so quickly and so smoothly, it's a perfect combo, having you guys releasing features, and the mod community keeping the custom maps and mods working. Just please ignore the negativity, and please, never try to intentionally artificially block or disable mods (like like mentioned at 5m02s). That said, it would be great if you were careful to leave a hook open somewhere so that custom song mods at least didn't break. I wouldn't have bought my quest, and would hardly play beat saber at all if it wasn't for custom songs. The built in ones are OK, but not my style and definitely not my favourite ones to play (love Spitfire by The Prodigy, play it almost every day).
    Really looking forward to 360 mode, particularly what the mod community does with it! Lets treat you guys like a team! You guys made the wonderful app, and they make it SO much better, win win :)

  • beasemir
    beasemir 4 months ago

    My mods are breaking on my quest after ost 3... solutions?

  • Pavel Seidl
    Pavel Seidl 5 months ago

    Hodně lidí říká že u televize se tloustne ty jsi z toho udělal mýt

  • Melissa Chapman
    Melissa Chapman 7 months ago

    Is there more music packs Comming?

  • Colby Neeb
    Colby Neeb 8 months ago

    Honestly i think i rather beatsaber without mods. On psvr i get to be excited for new songs. And am hyped when new music comes. But on pc with mods there is just an unlimited supply of music which is great for replayability but then again there is nothing to be excited about.

  • MemeMan
    MemeMan 8 months ago +2

    Too bad you permanently broke them on some systems because you think your shitty "campaign" was worth completely ruining an infinite library of custom songs and improvements.

    • MemeMan
      MemeMan 5 months ago

      @TJ Studio it took you two months to come up that toxic response lmao

    • TJ Studio
      TJ Studio 5 months ago

      @MemeMan I said get out outrage culture fanboy! You have nothing better to do in your life besides harassing people because toxicity is your nature!

    • MemeMan
      MemeMan 8 months ago +2

      @TJ Studioits not harassing people when i cant use the PRODUCT I PAID FOR. Clearly you can't read, I cannot play the most recent version of the game w/ nor w/o mods. This btw isnt toxic. Valid anger and annoyance are not toxicity. Calling you a c*nt for no reason is toxicity. But please white knight some more.

    • TJ Studio
      TJ Studio 8 months ago +1

      @MemeMan Sounds like you're harassing people because toxicity is your nature. So get out! Toxic people aren't welcomed on the internet!

    • MemeMan
      MemeMan 8 months ago +1

      @TJ Studio I'm pissed off because both the mods and the game are unplayable for me now on the latest patch. I have to play on the old version of the game where the mods are no longer available.

  • Dezy XI
    Dezy XI 8 months ago +2

    Hey, have you guys heard of non copyrighted music? @Jaroslav Beck
    Maybe it's easier to get it than copyrighted material....

    • Xaphok
      Xaphok 8 months ago

      yep, like in geometry dash that uses newgrounds

  • beasemir
    beasemir 8 months ago

    Dlc pack 2 when??? I cant wait

  • Kiarni
    Kiarni 8 months ago

    I just want custom games on psvr 🥺

  • axel is noob
    axel is noob 9 months ago


  • bejited
    bejited 9 months ago

    thank you for acknowledging this topic

  • mic kon
    mic kon 9 months ago

    Mám na čo byť hrdý 💙! Ak je Vlado zo Slovenska of course 😅
    Ste mojím vzorom chalani 🇸🇰🇨🇿

  • Genoslide
    Genoslide 9 months ago +1

    welp time to get an outdated version of the game, thanks

  • calokwolfable
    calokwolfable 9 months ago

    the music stinks i want my money back for this "game"

  • CartaEstem
    CartaEstem 9 months ago +1

    How stupid do you have to be to modify an unifinished game and then blame the developers when it crashes or write negative reviews on steam because the mods don't work anymore after an update. Honestly, i am so mad reading these dumb negative reviews from people that have no idea of what they are talking about and ruin the reputation of this amazing game. Also it's really sad that they have to justify their actions now, which shouldn't even be necessary and have to explain that music is not for free and the cannot officially support custom songs. This is common knowledge.

  • Bossalirious
    Bossalirious 9 months ago

    Speaking of song pack #2 where is it? I heard that it was suppoes to becoming *A LOT SOONER* THAN THE FIRST ONE.

  • zoetropik
    zoetropik 9 months ago

    Hi and thanks for making Beat Saber! As someone who bought your game soon after it came out (and who plays it literally every day), there's one small bug fix I'd be very grateful to see in a future update: accented character support. My Steam username is "zoëtropik", but every time I appear at the top of one of the global leaderboards, it shows as "zo tropik"... or, since 0.13.2, "zo?tropik". I'm sure there are tonnes of European players who would love it if characters like ö, é, and å would display properly in your game. Alternatively, if making Beat Saber support those characters is too difficult, could you make the game simply convert them to their unaccented variants? Because even seeing "zoetropik" on the leaderboards would be an improvement over what I have now. ;-) Many thanks in advance!

  • MEMEsaber
    MEMEsaber 9 months ago

    Mods make the game more fun, but when the dev for modsaber quit i'm surprised that some players blamed that on the devs of the original game. Without the devs the game wouldn't be here in the first place, and without the effort put into it the game wouldn't be as polished as it now is. Sure mods bring a second life to the game, but while mods are down why not try out some of the original songs?(still not impressed by the dlc tho) The devs worked hard on it and every single one of them are easy to play/hard to master. They also gave us modifiers and training mode so we can speed the song up to 200%, and i bet barely any of you can do ex+ beat saber with a 150% speed and gn :P The dlc update might be trash, but that shouldn't stop us from seeing the effort the devs are giving.
    Thanks for making the game and giving us a hell of a experience.

  • Devin Dykstra
    Devin Dykstra 9 months ago +2

    I can only imagine what that feels like, you update a game out of passion and love for the project, to improve it, even in the most minor ways, and then your fans get mad at you. All that I can say is that we all love your work, even those who get mad at you for updating it, they are mad because they care about beatsaber and they love playing it. They just don't understand.
    That being said, I hope this video gets to many people and educates them.

  • DrSkull20
    DrSkull20 9 months ago +2

    Hi Jaroslav Beck can you please add custom songs to beat saber, so we don't have to wait for the mod to update to the latest version? Thanks

  • OdiN902 1
    OdiN902 1 9 months ago

    just an idea but if you guys created a beat map for scattered faith that isn't fan made

  • Rawkers
    Rawkers 9 months ago


  • Chris Johnson
    Chris Johnson 9 months ago

    It's fun to peek behind the scenes, thanks for this video. It's totally understandable that updating the game would affect the mods, thanks for all the work you are putting into making this a great game for us!

  • Bubbz
    Bubbz 9 months ago

    If they can’t add mods I’m cool with it. The songs on already are sick and the amount of replay ability is class.

  • coolisasome
    coolisasome 9 months ago

    The problem with mods is that they are what is considered beat saber. On RU-clip I discovered the game with reality check through the skull and that causes problems.

  • Kevin Kylon
    Kevin Kylon 9 months ago

    I wrote a small mod for Beat Saber and while it's sad that the mods break, I'm glad that the game continues to improve. And I will keep working to fix the mods as you update!

  • Jacob Goaterupt
    Jacob Goaterupt 9 months ago

    I understand there might not be custom songs, but I hope there's gonna be the chance to get Duel of Fates + Other Star Wars songs, because those are in my opinion, songs made for Beat Saber

  • Reaxt
    Reaxt 9 months ago

    welcome in San Fransisco

  • Stirrcrazy
    Stirrcrazy 9 months ago

    thanks for addressing the community on mods, voices of reason were getting rarer and rarer out in the wilderness of steam reviews.

  • Shotak
    Shotak 9 months ago

    I hate that I have to explain this, Beat Saber is not the ones that make the mods. Stop asking the devs to make or fix mods, they don’t make them. If you want to fix your mods use the BSMG and get your mods working. but stop complaining your mods don’t work, asking the devs for fixes to them, and review bombing the game because you can’t learn to read for 10 seconds.

  • Knexli
    Knexli 9 months ago

    I understand the point of you guys, but why don't you let like older versions available so people who want to play with the mods can still do that. Beat Saber is a game which needs the levels of other players to be interesting. If you only play the "standard" ones (including the monstercat ones), you probably get kinda bored after some hours and you want more challengeing things. I totally understand you but as I said it would be cool if there was a way to get older versions of the game or something which would make it possible to still play with mods while waiting for the mod-creators to update their mods.

  • David Westwood
    David Westwood 9 months ago

    One possible idea for custom songs is to look at the community and every month or patch select like 10 songs that the community likes and buy the proper permissions to use those songs and integrate them into your game. (I think this would allow for a mix of both worlds and could make your life easier)

  • Rieducky
    Rieducky 9 months ago +1

    Can you be able to ad mods to psvr for at least one day?

    • Thermal
      Thermal 8 months ago

      They can't just add mods, simply because PSVR doesn't support them. Since PSVR is a closed platform it can't currently support Beat Saber mods, but maybe in the future.

  • Tanoshi
    Tanoshi 9 months ago

    I wouldn't say song licensing is a huge issue. Osu is a huge rhythm beat map game that has thousands and thousands of songs and even has champion ships with prizes. and as far as i know there has been 0 issues with beat maps made from the community using licensed songs since it is the community project to make maps and at that point the songs are technically fair use as they are not used for profit but entertainment etc. But other then that Beat saber has been great game. never had any issues with and without mods not even a single crash so far. so all has been great for me.

  • Jesse Van Den Broek
    Jesse Van Den Broek 9 months ago +1

    I don’t know if you will be able to answer this question (probably not, either should be answered by oculus or modders), but will mods be possible on the quest? This will depend mostly on if the quest can enable file management of the game. I’ve heard that you can side-load games on, so there is probably gonna be a way to do that, but do you know for sure if it will be possible, or not confirmed yet/probably better wait till release?

  • SVAFnemesis
    SVAFnemesis 9 months ago +1

    He’s basically saying it takes tremendous amount of manpower to build a mod compatible API component into the game and in the comment people are saying “how stupid for people not to know that” well first of all, people shouldn’t know because not everyone’s a game dev, second, I do VR dev and I hold my second opinion on what he said. No disrespect its a superb VR game, but still.

  • Drachivat.
    Drachivat. 9 months ago

    Mods on psvr maybe :)

  • Austin Smith
    Austin Smith 9 months ago

    It looks like they are using for injecting c# dll's. I think the main issue as to why mods keep breaking when the devs modify things is because there is no actual game API instead they are probably giving the modders a reference to the UnityEngine API. This means it would be difficult for the devs to predict what parts of there project might effect what mods... then again creating an API that restricts modders has its own challenges and issues. I do want to note that this is all just a guess, I am not a modder, I just took a peak at github and read what the Illusion Plugin Architecture does.

  • Siki Rebirth
    Siki Rebirth 9 months ago +3

    How do people think that it's the devs fault for the mods breaking???
    Plus the mod makers instantly update them an hour after updates go live?
    And there's a mod manager for it???? I don't understand people!?!?

  • MrZauberwuerfel
    MrZauberwuerfel 9 months ago +1

    I understand the problem.
    Wouldnt sending prerelease patches to the big modders be an option to fix this?

  • Kreesty
    Kreesty 9 months ago +2

    Just integrate mod support and use the frickin Steam Workshop for custom maps, sabers, avatars etc...

  • Oberon Gaming
    Oberon Gaming 9 months ago

    If your game doesn’t launch with the new game launcher...
    Delete faceit from your computer. The facit anti cheat interferes with the new beat saber mod manager. This issue affected me, and I hope it will fix the mods for you! Like so others can see

  • Dj Tsunami Blade
    Dj Tsunami Blade 9 months ago +2

    The whole thing about unlicensed music is that audio surf has been allowing custom songs for years and there is no issue cause it’s not them hosting them. You adding support but not supplying the music would not implicate you in anyway to the deeds of other people cause there is free music and there is the fact someone could own a copy of the song and just download the map and inject there already owned music.
    And adding a camera mod would be much appreciated to streamers as the game is big for streamers lately. You guys are doing a great job but I really don’t see much of an issue with the mods. Bring these people that but in time helping progress the game with mods and have them help add these features officially.

  • Będę grał w grę
    Będę grał w grę 9 months ago

    You totally have my support, it's natural, what you're saying.

  • Gabini
    Gabini 9 months ago +2

    I want to see an AI that maps songs automatically

    • Jono99
      Jono99 9 months ago

      I see.

    • FurFag
      FurFag 9 months ago

      @Jono99 I'm a huge fan of rythm games myself, not just beat saber. I like AI in general as well. I just think its be cool to combine the 2.

    • Jono99
      Jono99 9 months ago

      Yeah, for players of Eastern rhythm games, this can be a bit of a sore spot. Sorry.

    • FurFag
      FurFag 9 months ago

      @Jono99 well damn I didn't mean to offend you.
      I just think it would be a cool thing to have and I would like to see how it would perform in vr.

    • Jono99
      Jono99 9 months ago

      Translation: I don't care if maps are shit, I just care if they exist.
      Auto generated charts in any rhythm game is a recipe for disaster. They almost always lead to boring, generic charts that rely on the song being generically structured to create charts that fit with the song to begin with.

  • Watashijan
    Watashijan 9 months ago

    I really dont know how peppy is doing it with osu but his game is based on community maps and copyrighted music idk how hes not getting into trouble but if he can do this im sure you guys can do it too

  • Joe Nelson
    Joe Nelson 9 months ago

    Is it worth applying for a commercial license to NCS (NoCopyrightSounds)? They've got loads of songs which are free for independent use so they might be quite reasonable?

  • P Killjoy
    P Killjoy 9 months ago +5

    Its so easy to break software, adding mods and then updating the base game is a recipe for game breaking issues.
    for VR enthusiasts who are complaining, you really know very little about software. My suggestion is to use a mod manager app, and set it to not allow beatsaber to auto-update. That way, you are in control and whenever you do decide to update, you can uninstall the mods first

  • Virtual Turtle Games
    Virtual Turtle Games 9 months ago +1

    People can be harsh.. It's crazy to see all the negative reviews. I mean, beat saber is amazing, and there should be no doubt about that!

  • Mar kus
    Mar kus 9 months ago

    Can you make a star wars song for beatsaber? That would be really cool because you are also having lightsaber with which you slice the cubes.

    • Jono99
      Jono99 9 months ago +1

      @Mar kus oh. Well, you're kinda out in the cold sorry to say.

    • Mar kus
      Mar kus 9 months ago

      @Jono99 I can't use beat saver because I play on the psvr.

    • Jono99
      Jono99 9 months ago

      Are there any songs in star wars that would make for good maps? If so, there's probably a fanmade map for it already. Look on Beat Saver for it. If not, get some mapping tools, grab an mp3 and try your hand at making one yourself. Regardless, I hope you enjoy!

  • MrThat0neperson
    MrThat0neperson 9 months ago +15

    The mods are an integral part of the game for me, but I would never blame you for what you do to improve it, which invariably breaks them. Just keep doing what you do, because you do it very well!

  • Dieter
    Dieter 9 months ago

    One big problem with the updates for me is the release of chargeable content. For 20€ the game has way to little content. Releasing more original content for extra money feels very creedy to me. Watching the trends with microtransactions in video games makes me really mad.
    The only reason the game is so succesfull is the community and the people which spents hours of work on creating mods, free of charge!
    With such a community you could become the Minecraft of VR, but for the pc version of minecraft i just paid about 24€ and thats all. They have been releasing tons of original content and system updates for FREE during the years.
    I'm really pissed seeing a paywall in a 20€ game with so little original content. Thats one of the reasons EA is the most hated Publisher of all time, because they try to make extra money out of every shit.
    That people are mad at you is pretty normal, cause after the latest update you had only acces to the few original songs for more than a week and you see all that time the option to BUY additional songs.
    The game is great, but to be worth the 20€ you have to add a lot of content for free.

    • Runthar
      Runthar 9 months ago

      @Dieter It doesn't slow down development, they have a separate team they've hired a long time ago to map songs. These are people that used to map modded songs. So the developers can focus on the game.

    • Dieter
      Dieter 9 months ago

      Adding Songs that you have to pay for does also slow down the development of the game. As they sad, there has to be done a lot until the game is no more early acces. So why wasting time with dlc's instead of finishing the game in the first place...
      I think it's a shame to charge people during the time of early acces again for more content.
      You can't just sell a game for 20bucks with almost no content and then charge again 13bucks for a little more content and all of that during early acces.
      Time will tell how thats gonna work out for them in the future. But I think that all users of other platforms than pc, that don't have acces to the mods, will very soon be pissed off by the lag of content and the expensive DLC's.
      And as the Steam reviews looking like, about half of the pc gamers are also really pissed about that.
      A map editor to create your own maps with your own music should have been something highly prioritised.
      I wouldn't buy the game again. Game developers main goal should be to make the best possible game they can, not to make the most possible money out of every little thing in the game.

    • Runthar
      Runthar 9 months ago

      The things is, most songs that will and have been added into the game are made by other people and companies. The dev's have to pay those people to use their song in Beat Saber, they can't just not charge money for those songs that they spent tons of money to license. Every now and then there will be free ones like popstars and crab rave and the other one. If they develop their game and also make new songs themselves like the original soundtrack then it would slow down development.

  • mik vr
    mik vr 9 months ago

    Naprosto Vam rozumim, svym zpusobem vam modderi "ukradli" hru .... ale to je holt tim, ze tech songu je malo, coz sami vite. Proto jsem uvital nove a nove songy, music packy, klidne si priplatim za dalsi, cim vic tim lip.

  • TheFancyFilmmaker
    TheFancyFilmmaker 9 months ago

    You say the games not finished yet u put in DLC 😒

    • Runthar
      Runthar 9 months ago

      @TheFancyFilmmaker It costs them quite a bit of money to be allowed to use those songs in their game.

    • MrThat0neperson
      MrThat0neperson 9 months ago

      @TheFancyFilmmaker I don't agree simply because the maps themselves are finished and complete in their own right, not something you're paying for that's incomplete. They aren't making you pay to continue to play the game period, they're just asking you to pay for extra songs that came about later. These songs may not have even been planned to be mapped when they initially thought of, or even released, the base game. It's the same thing other rhythm games do; give you the option for more content that came after the fact for a price. If you paid for the base game before any of the free songs were released, you did so knowing full well that those were officially the only songs it had at the time, and that anything else was mods and unsupported. It would be one thing if the game had a pay wall to continue using it, but this is extra content that came after the fact. Would you rather not have the option to buy now content at all?
      And besides, this is all irrelevant because they're pretty much even encouraging the modders to keep up their work, which undermines even paying for most, if not all, of the DLC as pretty much every song has a custom map made by someone that you pay absolutely nothing for.

    • TheFancyFilmmaker
      TheFancyFilmmaker 9 months ago

      Those maps should be for free, not paid DLC. If a game is incomplete why would you sell stuff for a game that’s not even done yet. This is stuff that EA or Activison would do. This is the type of stuff that’s ruining the gaming industry. The whole “fix it later let’s try and find a way to make more money.” If they added more songs in game for free more people would buy the game, that’s how you make more money when it comes to making a game. Add some free extra content to increase the popularity and value of the game.

    • MrThat0neperson
      MrThat0neperson 9 months ago

      Well yeah, they want us to have more official content. Can you imagine if they onlly left us with the original 10 songs? They can't just rely on the community to do the rest of the workfor them, it's their game and they're just doing what they can to better it. Plus, they did touch on the issues of legaity and song usage. There's only so much they can do, and on top of releasing new beat maps they also have to support the game itself as a program. It's just not that simple.

  • bob dole
    bob dole 9 months ago +62

    Anyone who is mad or surprised about mods breaking with updates clearly is new to modding games in the first place and doesn't understand how they work.

    • MemeMan
      MemeMan 8 months ago

      or I am just annoyed because a shitty update permanently broke mods for me.

    • Jono99
      Jono99 9 months ago +1

      @Crazy Cold you have it so ass backwards it hurts. The devs don't hate modding, they just prioritise improving the vanilla experience over ensuring mod compatibility.

    • Crazy Cold
      Crazy Cold 9 months ago

      i guess so, but them bs devs really dont like the people who make there game popular without custom songs its nothing :(

    • Jono99
      Jono99 9 months ago +1

      @Charlie McDaniel one thing you have to consider is that for a decent chunk of players, this *is* their first time getting into mods since the official setlist is tiny (for now) and modding is the only way to add more.

    • mickeil keil
      mickeil keil 9 months ago +1

      first i wanna say, beat saber is clearly one of the best game in Vr. (and i am not english sorry for mistake) but, so this upgrade make 2 hudge mistake. one break mod ... rythme game on PC is base on modding, beat saber have to deal with it. but, i can accept this mistake. but ... DLC in early acces !! ?? what ? when i buy a game, it for a game not for a demo.
      exepte totaly breack the game, i am not sure they can make bigger mistake.

  • Juan Francisco Ortiz Bonet

    I don't understand why people get angry at the beat saber devs when mods break with and update. Other games like Minecraft have always had this problem and no one complained

    • Jono99
      Jono99 9 months ago

      Maybe it's because Beat Saber is much more reliant on mods to be enjoyable. With Minecraft, there's still a pretty decent game to enjoy in it's vanilla state. With Beat Saber, there's next to nothing, which perhaps explains their rage. They're wrong to be mad, don't get me wrong, but that's probably why it's happening.

  • Snows Use
    Snows Use 9 months ago +3

    The nice way of saying, "We can't gouge you for DLC if you use mods". One of the best games of all time is also over if the most frustrating because the psvr version is so freaking boring now. Long as I can mod it on the quest and block updates I'll gladly buy this game for a fourth time. Charge $40 I don't care.

    • Jono99
      Jono99 9 months ago

      As someone who has developed games in the past, I can comfortably say they're not talking out of their ass about anything they said here. Depending on how much changes from update to update, mods can break. It's the developer's choice if they want to take the responsibility for keeping mod compatibility and most of the time, for good reason, they opt not to. Developing the game itself is already a big enough workload for most teams for them to not have the resources to aid the modding community.
      I'm with you on the DLC front though. For an early access game, that just feels really scummy, especially when compared with other rhythm games. If a song pack has a cost over $1 per song, it just feels really wrong.

  • PaulKellyMusic
    PaulKellyMusic 9 months ago

    I really love your game, and I will continute to support you. But it makes me sad we were promised a custom level editor, and we still don't have it. But that's okay, I'm sure you are working on it. But maybe it's too tricky with copyright issues? And if so, just let us know, it's all about communication. Thanks for everything and your game is amazing!

    HYDRA COMICS 9 months ago

    Team up with Spotify or something I want all kinds of music in the game

    • Jono99
      Jono99 9 months ago

      @HYDRA COMICS same. Also, there are some songs in the genre (kinda) that'd make for excellent maps, like Hollow Bodies or pretty much anything by Apo11o Program.

      HYDRA COMICS 9 months ago

      @Jono99 I want more rock and metal

    • Jono99
      Jono99 9 months ago

      @HYDRA COMICS Well, they are doing that. The Monstercat pack exists after all. Also Pop Stars.

      HYDRA COMICS 9 months ago

      @Jono99 ah okay then that's what they need to do

    • Jono99
      Jono99 9 months ago

      Because Spotify doesn't own the music on their platform. It's licensed to them, much like how the songs in the Monstercat song pack were licenced to Beat Saber. The devs don't own the songs, the own a licence to use the songs. Most licenses don't allow you to licence your licence out to other people, therefore, the devs will need to get licences from the actual songwriters and at that point, there's no point reaching an agreement with Spotify.

  • Millennial Stereotype
    Millennial Stereotype 9 months ago

    I live in the Bay Area and wanna do a CHARITY STREAM.... Playing Beat Saber for hours/days on end to raise money for charity!!!!!!
    Maybe even get together a team of people to play for a week without stopping!!!!!
    Let's play Beat Saber for Charity!!!!