Doris Kearns Goodwin: What It Takes To Lead In Turbulent Times

  • Published on Dec 11, 2018
  • 'Leadership: In Turbulent Times' author Doris Kearns Goodwin says that past U.S. presidents displayed humility, empathy, and resilience in the face of tumultuous political climates. Cut to 2018.
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Comments • 218

  • Rudster14
    Rudster14 2 days ago

    I can't beleive he didn't mention "No ordinary times" about Franklin and Eleanor Roosevelt which she won a Pulitzer Prize for

  • attlee2010
    attlee2010 4 months ago

    She should do a biography

  • L K
    L K 5 months ago

    I love her!

  • Sakinah Abdussamad
    Sakinah Abdussamad 5 months ago +1

    She's a brilliant woman and an interesting guest. 💪👏💜

  • carli max
    carli max 5 months ago

    Another one of those crazy privileged not worried about money white Washington interns. At least she isn't known for a bj and seems to be writing about some interesting times. Maybe I'll get bored one day and become an accidental 3 percenter by stumbling in a used book store and read a few pages of her book.
    Look up AOC's fight to pay interns and learn a little something before you get your rich white asses in an uproar.

  • Dizzy Lizzie
    Dizzy Lizzie 5 months ago

    She’s so cute!!

  • joyce russell
    joyce russell 5 months ago +1

    Love DKG

  • David C Witkin
    David C Witkin 5 months ago +1

    A real voice of reason

  • Kiki N
    Kiki N 5 months ago

    Empathy and patriotism

  • Lynda
    Lynda 5 months ago

    I can’t believe she is 75 I love her book it’s so mind opening the best purchase

  • Dale Jackson
    Dale Jackson 5 months ago

    She is great and totally on to rump..

  • Edward Rawn
    Edward Rawn 5 months ago +1

    Doris seems like an absolute sweetheart!

  • Da_Mighty _Monarch
    Da_Mighty _Monarch 5 months ago +1

    She's right up there with George Will. Just eloquently smart

  • Ana Franklin
    Ana Franklin 5 months ago

    Wasn't Teddy the most like Trump?

    • Dale Jackson
      Dale Jackson 5 months ago

      Is that a joke? Absolutely nothing like Trump..

  • Trina D
    Trina D 5 months ago

    What an awesome Lady👌🏽, adding another book to my collection.😉

  • Jennifer Wayans
    Jennifer Wayans 5 months ago +2

    Amazingly Charming Lady
    Her husband is one Lucky guy

  • Tegan Debrock
    Tegan Debrock 5 months ago

    Beto O'Rourke has many of the qualities she discusses: empathy, charisma, a unifying message...

  • shimmy.ojeleye
    shimmy.ojeleye 5 months ago


  • JoRiver11
    JoRiver11 5 months ago

    What an interesting person! This interview was too short!

  • Pam Evans
    Pam Evans 5 months ago +3

    Don’t forget her book No Ordinary Time about FDR & Eleanor during the war. That’s the one she won the Pulitzer for. She’s my favorite historian

  • boobtuber06
    boobtuber06 5 months ago

    I wish Stephen asked DK Goodwin how many times LBJ used the N-word...

    • angela bluebird60
      angela bluebird60 5 months ago +1

      She didn't count, most likely. He was a man of his time and place, and this was common. Yes, he used the N word, yet also signed the Civil Rights Act, the Voting Rights Act and started a host of other programs to benefit those one might think he looked down on, blacks, poor whites, other minorities.

  • 0321MrsJones
    0321MrsJones 5 months ago

    very interesting. Googling Doris now. :)

  • Gargenfluck Gosphenspiels

    The only empathy Trump has is for himself.

  • Poonam Srivastava
    Poonam Srivastava 5 months ago

    So refreshing to hear of the qualities of empathy, humility and such in LEADERS. The 20th and 21st century can make a person think that LEADERS are incapable of such qualities. I'm not sure of this ... Will have to read the book. Please read.

  • Takako Sato
    Takako Sato 5 months ago +1

    Ms Goodwin. You give me hope and inspire me to read more about good leadership so we know what to look forward to make this world better. Thank you for your effort to shine a light on the past so we can take a step into the darkness!

  • 2legit64
    2legit64 5 months ago

    DKG is awesome! Her book "No Ordinary Time" taught me more about the Roosevelts and WWII than any history class I ever had in high school and college. Love her!

  • Rich Southall
    Rich Southall 5 months ago

    Wow; so nice to hear a voice of calm, intellect and reflection in our troubled times. So smart and wise - Doris Kearns Goodwin for President in 2020!!

  • Murilo Melo
    Murilo Melo 5 months ago +2

    I could listen to her for hours.

  • Jonas Stuart
    Jonas Stuart 5 months ago +3

    She is just awesome °¬)

  • margoelizabethmiller
    margoelizabethmiller 5 months ago

    Please, Stephen, don't call older people "young lady." Cheezits... 8:23

  • Annie Ranai
    Annie Ranai 5 months ago

    LBJ? The same president who pretty much exiled Eartha Kitt because she dared confront him and "Lady Bird" about juvenile delinquency and the Vietnam War? That sure was a grand display of humility, empathy, and resilience...

  • pat comerford
    pat comerford 5 months ago +1

    Her books are a great read, just like the great person she is!

  • cyan pepper
    cyan pepper 5 months ago

    When I grow up, I want to marry a woman like Doris Kearns Goodwin //

  • Richard Wickman
    Richard Wickman 5 months ago +1

    Doris is inspirational in how she can make us remember and reflect on the best examples of leadership, and the possibilities or promise of its reemergence.

  • ursaltydog
    ursaltydog 5 months ago

    Spunky little lady... nice legs too..

  • C Shell
    C Shell 5 months ago +3

    What an amazing researcher! Brava to you, Ms. Kearns Goodwin!

  • MCL MG
    MCL MG 5 months ago

    One of the best conversations ever! 👏🏽❤️👏🏽Hoping for climate conversations to happen next, and eagerly waiting for David Attenborough to be a guest soon.

  • Taylor Craig Newbold
    Taylor Craig Newbold 5 months ago +3

    Notorious DKG

  • james evarts
    james evarts 5 months ago


  • James Humphrey
    James Humphrey 5 months ago +6

    intellectualism - breath of fresh aire !

  • James Humphrey
    James Humphrey 5 months ago


  • James Humphrey
    James Humphrey 5 months ago +1

    have Elon Musk and climate scientists on the show

  • Native Youth Alliance
    Native Youth Alliance 5 months ago +1

    Lincoln and the dakota 38+2 largest mass hanging in America. Day after Christmas

  • A. A.
    A. A. 5 months ago +5

    You’re fabulous, Doris! It’s such a pleasure to hear you speak on history.

  • Seafox0011
    Seafox0011 5 months ago +9

    A breath of fresh air. Articulate and intelligent writer.

  • Birdsong
    Birdsong 5 months ago +3

    I really like her!

  • Lizzard
    Lizzard 5 months ago

    Our next president should read this book.

  • Running Owl
    Running Owl 5 months ago

    LBJ won you over because he was nice to you?! He did one good thing, and he did not because of empathy, but for re election. Then he declared war on crime and locked all those voters up.

  • jayceh
    jayceh 5 months ago +2

    International leader that exemplifies leadership? Easy.
    Leader of the Free World for three more years, Angela Merkel.

    • jayceh
      jayceh 5 months ago

      +Heidi Mueller haha Trudeau? No.
      He's just a face, and a shocking disgrace to many Canadians with his blatant pandering to Indians and grandstanding to Chinese.
      Plus, his cabinet is exactly 50/50 male/female - meaning meritocracy is no consideration. It's sexism pure and simple. Against men and women both.

    • Heidi Mueller
      Heidi Mueller 5 months ago

      Justin Trudeau. Why does he get no credit? Canada too insignificant.

  • fatmn
    fatmn 5 months ago +1

    "Once again, our apologies to Doris Kearns Goodwin."

  • Doris Hruska
    Doris Hruska 5 months ago +3

    She's so insightful and educated, what a blessing

  • Jay Zenitram
    Jay Zenitram 5 months ago +3

    Trump needs empathy to be a halfway decent leader? We're screwed.

  • MaryAnn Chaisson
    MaryAnn Chaisson 5 months ago +11

    Ms Kearns Goodwin is such a fabulous author. I’ve read so many of her books and loved every one!!!
    Keep it up ..I’ll continue buying! Great books. Thank You & Merry Christmas!

  • kathleen smith
    kathleen smith 5 months ago +4

    Doris Kearns Goodwin is a propagandist --the history she writes is bias and lies by leaving out critical information. She is disgusting and represents an elite that does not want the masses to know the truth about the oligarchy that has been running this country since the days of McKinely.

    • theman fromtaured
      theman fromtaured 5 months ago +3

      +Luke Stoll Perhaps what you've said will encourage the commenter to provide something that supports her "opinion/statement". I wouldn't hold my breath. You or others who may be affected could also look into what's been said. Otherwise, ignoring comments that you find disagreeable may be the best course.
      I'm pleased to let everyone share opinions, from qualified lecturers to nutters on the street. Who knows where knowledge could spring from? It's even entertaining to hear what beliefs are out there. Besides, it's best to give everyone a forum within reason, lest we too find ourselves pushed into the darkened corners.

    • Ashley Hyatt
      Ashley Hyatt 5 months ago +5

      +theman fromtaured Yuval Harari is another historian who I believe tries to be objective. He certainly admits his biases in his lectures. Though his most recent (and brilliant!) works aren't really histories per se, I look forward to him contributing more books related to his doctorate. His thesis History and I : war and the relations between history and personal identity in Renaissance military memoirs, c.1450-1600 is a very good example of what may come.

    • Luke Stoll
      Luke Stoll 5 months ago +1

      +theman fromtaured If your going to make a statement as strong as that, that could possibly affect how people view someone you should have some sort of evidence backing up that statement.

    • theman fromtaured
      theman fromtaured 5 months ago +4

      +Luke Stoll All opinions "matter" to some degree. Only in debate, academic work, or research is evidence required to support a thesis statement. Opinions whether shared at the pub, hollered at passersby in Speakers' Corner, or simply written into a RU-clip comments section should hardly be expected to become lectures with supporting documentation. Inserted links and quotes could easily be disputed, misinterpreted, and/or taken out of context. That would make this silly section very tedious for all sides, no?

    • Nathan Caravaggio
      Nathan Caravaggio 5 months ago +4

      +Ian Walter *merit
      Need someone have performed an identical or similar work to be critical of the performance of another? Most literary, film, fashion, and music critics don't actually work in those respective industries. Furthermore, does gender determine the level of criticism one can offer?

  • Lazy Perfectionist
    Lazy Perfectionist 5 months ago +12

    "If you had to bring one of them back to challenge President Trump-"
    "Yes sir."
    "-who would it be?"
    "It would be Teddy Roosevelt, Sir."
    Whoa. 😳 She had that answer all ready to go. Didn't have to put _any_ thought into it.

  • Susi Siebert
    Susi Siebert 5 months ago

    The little girls dress is a miss ....yikes

  • John Oremus
    John Oremus 5 months ago +6

    god bless the DKG

  • Oreos&Milk
    Oreos&Milk 5 months ago +7

    I LOVE DORIS!!!!

  • Sa C
    Sa C 5 months ago +17

    It must have been so cool to work for Lyndon Johnson. He was a great but flawed man. So many achievements: Medicare, Voting Rights Act, Head Start, PBS, etc. There should be more schools, hospitals, memorials named after him.

  • manny s
    manny s 5 months ago +3

    Hmmmm was Bernie at the tip of her tongue? C'mon who else has the potential to change it all for the better!!!

  • Manuel Barkhau
    Manuel Barkhau 5 months ago +2

    Google about her plagiarism scandal.

    • Mary Marsella
      Mary Marsella 5 months ago

      In 2002 and was admitted to, and rewritten to give credit where it was due. Also, unsold paperback copies of original were destroyed by publisher.

    • StanleyKewbeb1
      StanleyKewbeb1 5 months ago

      I haven't read a word of hers since that happened. And her book about LBJ was a snow job.

  • Blue Sky
    Blue Sky 5 months ago +1

    Beto/AOC 2020

  • jacasforever
    jacasforever 5 months ago

    Doris Kearns, Bernie Sanders is the one, I'm sure He'll beat Donald Trump ass in 2020

  • Keep Moving
    Keep Moving 5 months ago +3

    I’ve read her book. I felt better until I turned on the news. Great temporary fix though. Way too biased towards LBJ!

  • Aaron Peart
    Aaron Peart 5 months ago +4

    Damn, DKG is a freak!

  • Camate6385
    Camate6385 5 months ago

    Humans will be bless the day that oil parishes, I will be a big change for humanity 🙏🏻🙏🏻

    • Clarence Hemeon
      Clarence Hemeon 5 months ago +2

      Not really. Oil is used for much more than just gas. The petrochemical industry will be gone and things like medicine from that industry will be gone. There are many things from the petrochemical industry that we rely on.

  • Magnetar 117
    Magnetar 117 5 months ago +10

    I don't have much to say I just want to say I really really like this woman.

  • Rochelle Sassbug
    Rochelle Sassbug 5 months ago +7

    man I love this chick

  • spootyy
    spootyy 5 months ago +5

    "Once again... my apologies to Doris Kerns Goodwin."

  • Ascetic
    Ascetic 5 months ago +2

    DKG for president!

  • veronica easterbrook
    veronica easterbrook 5 months ago +9

    Did Ms Goodwin mention tolerance? LBJ certainly displayed it in allowing her to keep her job.
    I can't think of a single instance of Trump being tolerant

    • LFC 77
      LFC 77 5 months ago

      veronica easterbrook You Americans know so little your true history. Trump is an ignorant narcissist but he is an innocent child compared to the murderous psychopath LBJ. LBJ was a serious criminal, him being the president meant that the U.S. was then a lot like a banana republic.

  • sgbobsg
    sgbobsg 5 months ago +3

    FDR was a great man and President.

  • The Mystagogue
    The Mystagogue 5 months ago +12

    Doris Kearns Goodwin used to be a frequent guest on both the Daily Show and the Colbert Report - and especially on the Colbert Report, it was very evident that Colbert and Goodwin had big intellectual crushes on each other; they were always very FLIRTY!
    Goodwin has that great combination of smarts and a direct laid back demeanor that's always charming.

  • Susie Q
    Susie Q 5 months ago +3

    Overt narcisst have no empathy. So we are S.O.L.

  • Genie Mememe
    Genie Mememe 5 months ago +3

    I'm in love. She is everything right with white ladies. 😁 She is a beautiful mess. What a woman.

  • Neptune Alice
    Neptune Alice 5 months ago +3

    What is that moment a 6:54 where you see Stephen with a big smile and then the camera angle changes to include him and he straightens up like he has no emotion? I want to see more of those smiles during interviews!

    • Jayme Ann
      Jayme Ann 5 months ago +3

      Neptune Alice
      Crazy, I wanna see him express himself more like that too!! I love when he laughs without abandon!

  • mori1bund
    mori1bund 5 months ago +1

    My apologies to Doris Kearns Goodwin!

  • Brian Chou
    Brian Chou 5 months ago +14

    I was literally shouting Empathy as the most important feature of good leadership. Empathy is often the root of all other good qualities

  • PCBacklash _
    PCBacklash _ 5 months ago +3

    I've read two of Doris' books (Team Of Rivals, No Ordinary Time) and enjoyed them both immensely. I'm definitely looking forward to check this new one out!

  • natural91LC
    natural91LC 5 months ago +6

    25?! Wow I'm 27 and I've done nothing with my life :(

    • John Caulfield
      John Caulfield 5 months ago

      You have time. Just do something you like and do it well.

    • Michal Perach
      Michal Perach 5 months ago +4

      You have so much time ahead of you! Start dreaming and then follow those dreams :)

  • Pfälzerwald Gumby
    Pfälzerwald Gumby 5 months ago +3

    Trump/Empathy = Matter/Anti-Matter

  • Sumit Arora
    Sumit Arora 5 months ago +7

    An excellent interview with a very positive and inspiring vibe.

  • oogachaka
    oogachaka 5 months ago +4

    Still a hippie.

  • ALizardLoves You
    ALizardLoves You 5 months ago


  • I would prefer not to.
    I would prefer not to. 5 months ago +10

    *_Bernie Sanders is the next FDR._*

  • John Hogan
    John Hogan 5 months ago +3

    Thanks for this interview. Nicely done. On holidays in Peru and I just bought that book :-)

  • s21972012145525
    s21972012145525 5 months ago

    Man, I wish they spoke about Bush 41 a bit. Colbert’s take on 41 would be interesting considering he made a living out of making fun of his son.

  • Paul Jackman
    Paul Jackman 5 months ago +4

    "Team Of Rivals" is one of the best books about Lincoln's governance I've read. Great to hear this terrific historian interviewed by Colbert.

  • Katie Kane
    Katie Kane 5 months ago +35

    Big shout out to a smart lady who embraces her brains & aging in a glorious way. No botox, little make up. We should all be so comfortable in our own skin. Her books are a treasure! Gr8 interview

  • Cosmos Runner
    Cosmos Runner 5 months ago +11

    What a great interview! Nice change from big ego movie srars, awkward deliveries and vacuous content. Thanks Stephen!

  • medlinj5
    medlinj5 5 months ago

    bad aa

  • Philosophy Gamers
    Philosophy Gamers 5 months ago

    Politicians generally aren't people who embody the best of humans. It's pretty confusing the worse type of humans run the show.

  • John E McCormick
    John E McCormick 5 months ago +20

    Ms. Doris .. America's Favorite U.S. History Teacher !

  • Craig Craver
    Craig Craver 5 months ago +26

    'Bout time she's back on; I've missed her. These two should make an educational series about the presidency. It would be fun and very interesting.

  • Perfectly imperfect
    Perfectly imperfect 5 months ago +1

    75th comment

  • SuperDad1266
    SuperDad1266 5 months ago +20

    Wow, Trump has shown none of the characteristics she

    • Patrick Small
      Patrick Small 5 months ago

      +Ivone de Figueiredo There will never be a candidate like Trump to come along and be able. To make traction the way he did again; Hillary Clinton was the only person who he could've beaten. Trump's base is only about 30 something percent of the country that's it. The way things are looking I seriously doubt he will even be around in 2020. To be up for re-election given the Mueller investigation and all the facts about his clear crimes.

    • Ivone de Figueiredo
      Ivone de Figueiredo 5 months ago

      Patrick Small Well, it would be an absolute shocker if Americans manage to elect someone worse than Trump in the future. It wouldn’t surprise me but I would be shocked beyond belief.

    • Patrick Small
      Patrick Small 5 months ago +3

      I can say this with absolute certainty; Trump will go down in history. As completely the most unqualified, undignified, and total embarrassment US President in history!

  • veronica easterbrook
    veronica easterbrook 5 months ago +15

    It is reassuring to be reminded that USA had some great presidents. Ms Goodwin lists some important traits desirable in a President. Voters should check this list at election time. It is also reassuring that this lady has achieved some prominence in her country and is held high esteem.

  • Jim's videos
    Jim's videos 5 months ago +19

    Her story-telling is a vital link between the best of the past and a future that needs some work.

  • QIRAT Mehboob
    QIRAT Mehboob 5 months ago

    Muhammad biryani tou nhi bnate

  • m ar
    m ar 5 months ago

    8:25 "And once again, my apologies to Doris Kearns Goodwin."

    • spootyy
      spootyy 5 months ago +1

      +mori1bund My favorite one was from the Vacsa-Not-Masturbating bit

    • mori1bund
      mori1bund 5 months ago

      Too bad no one here seems to get that reference.
      No watchers of the old show?