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After 7 years my train of thought brought me back to this moment, it’s actually not as crazy as it sounded back then. Fuck man, don’t do drugs if you don’t want to see darkness.
Anyone seen the 6th Day. Pretty sound question asked IMO...
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Karl its actually right. That was a really good question.
Karl makes a good point. If they both think the same and have the same memories; neither of them wouldn’t be able to tell if they were the clone.
If they created the doppelganger by sitting you in a chair, hooking you up to a machine, birthing the doppelganger from a vat, and then tattooing "Copy" on the butt-cheek of the doppelganger, then it would clear up the "who is the original" question.
karl has enough of an open mind to wonder about this. he doesn't have the vocabulary to fully express his point but even i can understand what he is getting at. and its a pretty interesting point. the other two just make themselves look average in terms of intelligence
Do they not realise that Karl is actually very bright?......
I would kill my doppelgänger and harvest the organs. Keep that shit on ice
I never expect any of his answers...never, it’s amazing, he has a different thought process that anyone else
I love Karl but I'm not one of these people who think he is a genius. Apart from everyday common sense, I think he really is a dumb fuck. However he is completely correct in this video. How would yo know which one you are? Ricky really embarrasses himself by saying it's the stupidest thing anyone has ever said.
Again, RIcky and Stephen are idiots. They took the question to mean "How would I know which of the two is me?" instead of "How would we agree on who is the clone given our shared memories?"
Ricky's reaction hahaha XD
“But I still wouldn’t want it” 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I understand what Karl wanted to say, but I think he manages to say this kind of things in the clumsiest way possible. Because of that, Ricky tells him he says stupid things.
He could have a three-way with suzanne and his doppelgänger
Anyone else noticed by watching these, that when Ricky realises Carl’s right, he just goes “well it’s not a real question is it?” Then Carl will try and explain it more and he just won’t listen to him, quite annoying really
Comedy for you.....
I came to find this clip because I’ve seen this episode so many times and Ricky and Steve’s reaction to “how would I know which one I was” is so frustrating. I had to know that everyone else thought it was a really clever question as well 😂
Ricky and Steve are such stupid asshats...
It´s not that far fetched actually, what Karl is arguing. If you have a doppelganger, surely you would at some point start asking questions and start to doubt if you, you yourself, is the original or the doppelganger. Is not THAT far fetched, think about it. What evidence can you present to yourself, that you are the original? In theory, the doppelganger, whom ever it is of the two of you, could present the exakt same evidence as you laid out yourself. Eventually you would end up twisting yourself mentally to this conundrum.
Agree. This is actually just one example among many where Karl is more insightful than Ricky and Stephen. There's an episode in which Karl questions whether he is identical with his own mind or not, because he remembered to get something before leaving his house but he didn't feel like it was "him" who remembered it, it felt automatic. A totally valid point (although I still enjoy the hell out of Ricky and Stephen ragging him).
I really like the sound of an evil karl
Karl is a philosophical genius.Only he doesn't realise it.
Joe Rogan, Carls doppelgänger
😂 Christ,Steve and Ricky are so mean to him!!
And that is what made them tick
2 Karls?? Awsome, dubble fun 👍👍
Years later Karl Pilkington presents “Sick of it.”
Hey Ricky, does that mean Phillip K. Dick, Dostoyevsky, etc. are all idiots as well?
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See the episode "Schizoid Man" from The Prisoner, where the people in charge send in a doppleganger who acts and reacts exactly as No.6 with the intention of breaking down his sense of self. Karl is spot on. Sorry Ricky.
They've just got their arse stuck together. A Karl Classic.
It happened on Too Many Pinkie Pies Ricky.
Karl is absolutely correct here
Karl was actually right. Its like the movie Oblivion of Tom Cruise.
I was about to say "That's exactly what I was thinking," but then I realised that it would sound like a joke because of the context.
I wish Ricky would stop saying Karl is stupid. He gets so scathing and abusive. He doesn't laugh with him, he laughs at him in a mean-spirited way.
Ricky has called Karl a genius on multiple occasions....stop taking it so seriously
The concept of the question is questioning whether you were the clone or not, because you would both have the same appearance, memories and personalities. Ricky would not get Black Mirror, where as Karl is on Charlie Brooker’s level.
2:34 I've thought of this... and my clones wouldn't put up it with it any more than I would... we'd have to alternate days of the week we go to work or do shit errands. And if you have a clone for each day of the week it's not cost effective anymore. We'd all have to have different jobs and then it would just be 5 people living together. If you have sex with your clone with the lights off just because you both know exactly what you want and it's more efficient, and you know neither will fall in love, is it masturbating?
plot of moon
Karl struggles to explain his thoughts but he's not stupid at all.if he didn't have learning difficulties he'd come across as quite genius.
It needs to be clarified whether it's a clone or a doppelganger, if it's a clone you know it's a copy and you are the real one, however if you meet the doppelganger without any prior knowledge that you'd be cloned you would question whether you're the real one
"How would I know which one I was?"
Karl is right though, how does he know if he is really a clone or not? I mean, if he is an exact replica, then what would happen is they would both have the same memories. As far as Karl would know, he would be a clone, with all of the other Karl's memories. It's a genius response, and I honestly believe Karl is far smarter than credit would be given.
Oh my god I love this.
Karl was making a good, but somewhat poorly worded, point here. Ricky was definitely in the wrong, which is funny considering he studied Philosophy...
I get what Karl is saying. If you had a doppelgänger who had the same memories as you then how could you say that you aren't the doppelgänger yourself?
I would fuck my self, it's not gay, it masturbation
Karl has great ideas and just constantly words them wrong
as always karl made a really good point
Karl is so smart though why does that not make sense to anyone else? If the doppelgänger has all his memories up until the moment he got cloned how would either of them know which one was the real Karl? Because they’d both think they were the real Karl?
Ricky is such an asshole. Karl tends to make some fair points and Ricky just acts as if they're the stupidest thoughts ever.
TheDescendingChaos it’s because he’s so bad at explaining things.
This is my favourite Pilkington quote of all time: "How would I know which one I was." It sounds retarded, but in reality is quite profound. Would you know if it was reality or a dream? It's right on that line that separates genius and insanity.
I think I know which side of the line Karl is on.
This reminds me of Oneyplays argument on clones but significantly more civilized
@firered sk ricky plays with mates
@bread gineer wait....A hard headed clumsy boy with a heart of goldA whats his face kind of guy with weird hobbies and probably gayAnd the funnier one who youre not so sure if he was kidding or not but is funny anywaysOMG is the same show!
ding dong = karl
FUCKING POCKET HITLER
In which Karl Pilkington accurately describes "The Clone Saga" from 90's Spiderman comics.
Karl has a point but I think what Ricky and Steve are saying is that Karl has the memory of the inbetween time in which the doppelganger was cloned and the clone doesn't. They weren't talking about the same thing.
Karl was actually right lol
@Andrew Bowman The way Karl words it is kind of odd because you would of course always know that you are you, for the reason that you stated.But how would you know that you hadn't just been created as a clone and plopped in front of the TV with all of the original's memories? If all of your memories are potentially fake then you can't trust them. That's the dilemma. You wouldn't be able to know if you were the original you, or the copy.It's easy to say that you'd know because you've been here all along, but you're only basing that on the memories of your life experiences. If you think about it from the clone's perspective they have been given all of the same memories, and as such will also be 100% certain that they have lived your life, even though they haven't. Their perspective is identical to your own.
If you're sat at home watching telly, and your doppelganger walks in, you'd still know which one was you. Considering that we see things through our own eyes, we would always know who we were.
Yeah I agree with him but a better way of putting it is: "How would I know if I was the original or the clone?"
I always felt like Ricky and Steve got too caught up in laughing at Karl. Karl obviously meant if the doppelganger thought he was real too then he couldn't be sure hes right. Kinda like that Schwarzenegger movie no one remembers.Edit; "The Sixth Day" just popped up on my Netflix, no word of a lie. Actually fucking creepy. But it was the one I was trying to remember.
Rob Vel But the fact Karl later asks if he can see what his Doppelganger sees and then declares that it isn't a Doppelganger based on that fact makes his point invalid as he obviously didn't understand the question. If anything he's just convoluted the question making it harder to answer. Assuming that Karl would react like a normal human and just answer rather than polluting the question with extra details and conditions was a fantasy. The only way they'd rectify this really is if Steve and Ricky had clarified and made up something like Karl often does and said the clone would Liquefy or cease to exist as opposed to continuing to exist. I doubt they meant he's there for a day then continues to live life with the real Karl.
In Seattle, q13 news has a karl doppelganger.
When Karl says "how would I know which one I was?" , he means to say he wouldn't know if he was the original or the clone. He could only know that if their memories diverged prior to cloning. Ricky misinterprets the question to mean: how would I know which one i was from a first person perspective. Obviously 'Karl' will know who he is based on his conscious experience, he just might not know if he is the original or the copy depending on the cloning process.
@Writeous0ne Well yes, maybe. You may know that you're literally (in literal terms) the REAL one. And within that situation then yes because you would know that you're the real one. However my point was that Karl may not have been literal. When you think about it his argument was more existential... It was more like "how could you PROVE which one was real", as in "how would you know that you're not a clone because you're identical, you would feel real" or "what is reality or conscience" he just worded it badly. Although I am giving him the benefit of the doubt.
@Britannic hayyomatt you'd still know you were you though, as i've said before it's not a situation where you wake up and there's two of you, it's a situation where you choose to hang out with a doppleganger... you still know you're you, the doppleganger might think he's the real one BUT you'd KNOW you're the real one. sick of explaining this tbh
@Oliver Devine I agree. I completely agree.My comment was from Karl's point of view. Karl only has what he knows and he doesn't know a lot. To KARL, sight is important and one of the only ways to understand the world. And to KARL a fish thinks like a person.
@Britannic hayyomatt I think most blind people know they're alive so sight isn't important to humans to they're alive, also a fish being translucent probably has no affect on it at all seeing as most fish don't have a sense of self, and would never see their own body anyway in their natural environment
Karl’s point is actually brilliant. Even if the real Karl watched them clone him with his own eyes, the clone would have this memory too! The clone Karl will have all his memories, and truly believe he is the real Karl. So the real Karl and clone Karl will remember the event in the same way. Meaning the real Karl could be clone Karl and vice versa.
insecure bully that needs to put down others to feel good
Butttt. If iT was like a cloning machine the clone stepped out of, the clone would have memory of him stepping out of the cloning machine in first person and third person! And the original Karl would know hes the original because he saw the Guy stepping out
For anyone interested in this stuff, watch a film called “Moon”. The main character is called Sam Bell if it helps you find it! Great film
To be honest Karl has a really interesting point. I don’t know why Ricky always criticizes almost anything Karl says. But that’s just me.
The problem with Karl is his thinking is so far outside the box it can't find it's way back.
Project One Productions that's just the kind of friends they are. I wish I had a buddy that close that we could just shit on each other all the time and be best buds
I don't know why, but seeing cartoon Karl's doppelganger punch a random old man is killing me!
It sounds like a Stupid and VERY funny question "How would I know which one I was?".... But it's actually pretty deep.. An exact Clone of yourself IS you.. Sure, you can tell yourself "I'm me", but an exact copy of you would be thinking the same thing. You could challenge "yourself" to some private Qs., but "you" would always know the answer.. So what the F*uck - WHICH ONE AM I!!!!
I understand this completely… the clone would be given your memories, so both would have experience of every second leading up to the cloning… spooky shit
Ricky really is much more closed-minded than he thinks he is. Karl's question is a common science-fiction premise--rooted in philosophy. Two people are identical with the exact same memories. (Karl even asks if it's just appearance, or also personality.) They can't be sure which one is the original and which one's the duplicate. He'd have found it if he read enough Philip K Dick.
Dave Smith Of course. Karl has made a lot of money by just being himself. It’s all staged and it’s funny as hell. It’s OK because it’s like 3 friends at the pub busting balls. Damn, Karl got a TV series and 2 books out of it. That, my friend, is smart.
Brian C yeah it’s like they want the things he says to be stupid
Same idea wad used in the 60s show The Prisoner
"They can't be sure which one is the original and which one's the duplicate" Yeah but that's not what karl said. He said "how would I know which one I was?". He just phrased it badly, which is often why he looks stupider than he is. Karl's question implied that he literally didn't know which one of the two bodies he was inside.
Brian C the point is to play dumb to karl so he gets pushed to answer smartly
I think Ricky and Steve are jealous of Karl’s brain
Gervais labels himself as a comedian when Karl is a million times funnier without even trying
You forgetting that he wrote the office?
crystalp321 Karls hilarious but give Ricky credit he's a great comedian
A lot of what Karl says is set up by Ricky and Steve though
"Ow would I know which one I was"
This problem can be easily solved. Ask the Doctor to put a Tattoo on your back that Says: OG. There, problem solved
So, I see what you mean, like.. Chamber 1 and Chamber 2. Chamber 1 holds the original, and so when the clone is created, a tattoo is placed on both of them, on the original is #1 on the clone is #2. But, that's the thing, the idea is it's is a PERFECT, EXACT, COPY. Aka, anything you change to yourself, he would also change. Though I see what you mean.
Surely that leaves you with the same problem of not knowing if you're the clone or not?
Yep. Make the clone, then after do the tattoo so it isn’t copied!
The doctor doesn´t have to say this before cloning, he just whispers it to the original after the process
If this cloning method can copy the state of your brain I think it can copy a tattoo.
Why the fuck does Karl's answers make sense to me?
John Smith makes sense to me as well
Thomas Alvarez yeah I would have a good argument but couldn’t word it properly, think it’s same with Karl
They are just phrased really badly. I used to do the same with essays great potential, just argued really poorly.
I am frustrated that ricky thinks that Karl's question is dumb. It's actually a question asked in philosophy classes when talking about the same scenario.How do you know you aren't the clone if both of you have exactly the same memory? Assume they put you asleep and you woke up and there is now a clone of you. and then assume that the clone has exactly the same memories up until you are put to sleep for the cloning process.
The difference is they set the scenario to let karl know which one he is and let him be aware of the fact that one is a doppelganger. They didnt pose it as if he woke up and there was 2 of him in bed with the same memory
Oh fuck off! 😂 It was a stupid question no matter what these "philosophers" think or say.
Ricky goes out of his way to make Karl look stupid all the time. Karl is actually incredibly smart, he’s just bad at articulation. Ricky looks moronic when he tries really hard to make Karl look dumb.
ImperialWarhawk123ABC you’re dumb
Ricky and Stephen unwittingly being dumber than Karl on occasion is half the fun of this show.
Ricky thinks "How would I know which one I was?" Is a stupid question so he obviously hasn't watched The sixth Day with Arnie
@cosmicwatchmaker Ah so that's the name of that movie. Was already wondering for a while.And yeah, considering the both have the same memories, that's a pretty smart question.
0:35 best moment in the shows history