Ronaldo and Real Madrid: Who needs whom more? Plus, an Ajax deep dive | Extra Time

  • Published on Apr 17, 2019
  • Dan Thomas, Alejandro Moreno, Shaka Hislop and Gab Marcotti head to ESPN FC Extra Time to answer fan questions, including (0:42) the difference in progress between Ajax and Manchester United since their 2017 UEFA Europa League final (the Dutch side won 2-1 vs. Juventus in the UEFA Champions League quarterfinals, while United lost vs. Barcelona and Lionel Messi); (2:33) why Gab "hates" Matthijs De Ligt; (3:45) whether United should sell Paul Pogba due to his recent struggles; (4:45) whether Cristiano Ronaldo needs Real Madrid more than the inverse; (5:43) if United could have had a chance if Drake took a selfie with Messi; (6:06) whether Ajax is No. 1 in Shaka's Power Rankings; (6:46) whether Ajax winning UCL 2019 would be a bigger deal than Leicester City winning the Premier League in 2015-16; and (7:19) Shaka's experience at The Masters.
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  • Death Hack
    Death Hack 6 months ago +1

    Still the GOAT

  • metal garurumon
    metal garurumon 6 months ago +1

    Both. Sadly both are arrogant

  • M W
    M W 6 months ago

    Jesus christ that continuous back ground music

  • Hans Yolo
    Hans Yolo 6 months ago

    Sinkgraven was not a record signing. Ajax gambled 16.25m on Miralem Sulejmani back in 2008 already

  • dumi ngwenya
    dumi ngwenya 6 months ago

    When Craig Burley and Stevie Nicol are absent the show can actually be taken more seriously

  • Bayzel Bozwell
    Bayzel Bozwell 7 months ago

    Everyone needs the best ever. Go home to United and win 4 more CL's. Juve suck. You did it all. You even won the cup vs milan. Go to Barca. Let the 2 best play and dominate. Make Pep spend 250 mil on u so he can win a CL.

  • Real fact
    Real fact 7 months ago

    Look at the face of this pundits especially the middle one.... they are very happy...because Ronaldo out of CL

  • jake phride
    jake phride 7 months ago

    At this point in time they need each other

  • 90minutenlangvooronzeclub

    IF IF IF! If my aunty had a big dick it would be my? ..... fact is this year AJAX fucked real and juve! And now they have big chance to go to FINAL CL!

  • Toufiq iCE
    Toufiq iCE 7 months ago

    sack gab and shaka. dumb-ass

  • Rogier7305
    Rogier7305 7 months ago

    Sorry, but Bosz was already a much more household name than Ten Hag was in Holland!

  • I am Boxing, you will see, just wait

    This fat GUY talking about football is really stupid. Stick to talking about the NFL. Saying that de Ligt is overrated, russel Westbrook is overrated

  • man kind
    man kind 7 months ago

    How happy they r tht Ronaldo lost

  • Abraham Kidane
    Abraham Kidane 7 months ago

    Real Madrid football club needs more to Ronaldo. B/se Juve we saw without he for the last 3 years. even 2017 had final.

  • H!VLTG 3
    H!VLTG 3 7 months ago

    Ronaldo doesn't need Madrid for shit. He'd have a hall of fame career even if he never joined Madrid. 3 PLs, a UCL and a euro. That'll do.

    And Madrid don't need Ronaldo long term either. They will always be one of the best but this current real madrid squad... they need ronaldo. They can't win anything without him.

  • Meinda Ignácz
    Meinda Ignácz 7 months ago

    Hala Madrid and Ramos courtois

  • Sayn Stan
    Sayn Stan 7 months ago +1

    Someone threw excuse that Real Madrid lost because Ronaldo wasn't there. Now what happened to Ronaldo? LOL

    • Sa sori
      Sa sori 7 months ago

      It was the defense not the attackers fault

  • Zahid Mustafa
    Zahid Mustafa 7 months ago

    Ronaldo need Madrid, No Madrid no Ronaldo... and Madrid need Zidane

  • Sadi Rahman
    Sadi Rahman 7 months ago

    "This madrid team" lol .. way better than "that juventus team" shithead shaka :3

  • Caleb Hogue
    Caleb Hogue 7 months ago +2

    Lol I really hope Ogden doesn’t really think that about De Ligt. The kid is amazing he has the possibility of being better than Van Dijk

  • Emmanuel Chuks
    Emmanuel Chuks 7 months ago +5

    He has nothing to prove . His still the legend of this competition!!

    • Abu Qital
      Abu Qital 6 months ago

      Emmanuel Chuks And the cry baby

  • jdoe
    jdoe 7 months ago +13

    VAR fked em up. No more diving and penalty kicks.

    • Bayzel Bozwell
      Bayzel Bozwell 6 months ago +1

      No you are Abu, you Muslim rat 🐀

    • Abu Qital
      Abu Qital 6 months ago +2

      Bayzel Boswell Is Ronaldo your girlfriend or what?

    • The Don
      The Don 7 months ago +4

      Bayzel Boswell who hurt you bro?

    • Bayzel Bozwell
      Bayzel Bozwell 7 months ago +1

      Dives? Bro, watch highlight reels of this savage. You watch the sport. Dudes a beast at 34. Whats that midget big game no show messi gonna do when his skills drop a bit? M-L-S

  • Val
    Val 7 months ago +4


  • RDG
    RDG 7 months ago +5

    What a disrespect to Peter Bosz. His phylosophie matches perfect with Ajax and many fans wished he was still the manager. He just didn't have a good relationship with the Board of Director's. And another note, Sinkgraven didn't join Ajax on a transferrecord deal.

  • Wolves 2.0
    Wolves 2.0 7 months ago +9

    If juve had Ronaldo in 2017 when they made that final I'm pretty sure they would've won with how good the chiellini, bonucci, and barzagli partnership. That was probably the best juve side under allegri

  • Tauqeer Ahmad
    Tauqeer Ahmad 7 months ago +4

    He hates De Ligt 😂😂🙌🏻🙌🏻

  • Hell Hale
    Hell Hale 7 months ago

    The next season ronaldo not winning the ucl and people will be like who the fuck is that guy?? Did we even knew him at all?? Because nobody fucks seria A it’s nothing nothing nothing and hopefully not becoming anything in next few years as long as Messi is playing

  • Hell Hale
    Hell Hale 7 months ago

    Karma is a bitch... isn’t it?? Ask Ronaldo for better answer

  • Sean Dolan
    Sean Dolan 7 months ago

    Madrid have done nothing without Ronaldo compared to last season.
    Ronaldo single handedly saved Juve against athletico and then scored against Ajax, I’m pretty sure the answer is clear if you consider how dominant Juve have been in their own league too.

  • abhilash bommoju
    abhilash bommoju 7 months ago +2

    Barcelona has best chance to win cl this year now or never for MESSI because Mr champion league have left League

  • Arman Hovhannisyan
    Arman Hovhannisyan 7 months ago +3

    Real Madrid and Ronaldo need the refs.

  • Neem Carry
    Neem Carry 7 months ago

    The only important thing is that Juve should buy some good midfielder n winger. I dont know y they r stuck with dybala(doesnt even get a place in argentina squad). Khedira n emre can should be replaced too

  • Saaheb Singh Machra
    Saaheb Singh Machra 7 months ago

    How does Gab work with these Idiots day in day out?

  • Dong Luc
    Dong Luc 7 months ago

    Swap Ronaldo for Sanchez

  • Stazi
    Stazi 7 months ago

    De Ligt dunked on 2 guys for that header but some fat fuck will tell you he’s not athletic lmaooo

  • Basic C
    Basic C 7 months ago

    Mark Ogden is the type of guy that overestimates the EPL and the english pleyers. If De Ligt would have played in EPL he would be saying that he is one of the grates. fuck off

  • Mmapara Pilusa
    Mmapara Pilusa 7 months ago +1

    Ronaldo just needs a decent team that doesn't play shit...

  • Dr Dirty
    Dr Dirty 7 months ago

    If the whole of Man U play bad is pogba gonna play well he needs better players around him

  • Empanadat
    Empanadat 7 months ago

    Is that black fella related to Ronaldo or some shit?

  • Babajide Odusanya
    Babajide Odusanya 7 months ago

    Duck GABitch

  • Josfur Gaming
    Josfur Gaming 7 months ago

    ofcourse barca will be their n1 team this is a bunch of messi fanboys... why dont they just put is name tag on their own foreheads. what a bunch of losers hahaha......

  • vicli vlog
    vicli vlog 7 months ago +2

    Ronaldo needs real Madrid and real Madrid neem cr7. With Ronaldo in Juventus they play different. And Juventus just dont flow and send the ball in like real Madrid. Sure, Ronaldo might come back stronger, Juventus might buy more players. But Ronaldo and real Madrid just fit so well.

  • K4 Josiah
    K4 Josiah 7 months ago +1

    Ajax eliminated madrid and it's talisman, honestly they deserve the trophy.

    • Kazuro Jinzo
      Kazuro Jinzo 7 months ago

      @Fraser M People need to stop using the term "bottle" all the time. The predictions of Ajax beating Madrid and Juventus were very low. Them making it this far is incredible, they might run out of steam or perform badly in the next rounds, but they surely wouldn't of bottled it either way. Can't perform every game no matter what, whether you're Barcelona, Madrid, Man City, Liverpool, Juventus etc.

    • K4 Josiah
      K4 Josiah 7 months ago

      @Fraser M who knows, they play like well experienced veterans, I can't see ten hag failing in a final.

  • Footballophile in aeternum

    *Before his arrival Juve at least had the domestic double.*
    *Now they don't even have that.*

    PETER LUCKY 7 months ago +22

    My worry is

    Why Spanish teams keeps on tormenting English teams in European competitions ??

    • Destiny Atutie
      Destiny Atutie 7 months ago

      @muhamed ali we'll see

    • Destiny Atutie
      Destiny Atutie 7 months ago

      @muhamed ali if you think after this shit season that all of a sudden they're going to be challenging Barca for the league and the champions league, then good luck.

    • muhamed ali
      muhamed ali 7 months ago

      @Destiny Atutie no they dont, they have alot of talent out on loan and in the team, they just have to mix that with new player and sell few of the old players, i have been following real for 16 years , I know what am talkin about

  • Serena Poketeen
    Serena Poketeen 7 months ago

    Thats happen when you have new players with dreams and passion in your team, old finished Juventus players were exposed. Easy like that, United, and Chelsea need that, no more david luiz or fat sanchez winning money for do nothing.

    FOOTBALL KING 7 months ago +10


    • Ahoy ツ
      Ahoy ツ 7 months ago

      FOOTBALL KING lmao ronaldo doesn’t understand Juve at all. Lazy allegris tactics are just give the ball to CR7 and pray. He relies too much on that gay old man. Ronaldo ruins the team.

  • AFCADaan9
    AFCADaan9 7 months ago

    1.Sinkgraven wasn’t Ajax’ record signing
    2. De Ligt is an insane athlete
    3. Get that fucking guy out of here please

  • desi vlogs
    desi vlogs 7 months ago +4

    Sinkgraven wasn't the record signing for ajax... it was Sulejmani like 10 years ago. 17'5 million

    • desi vlogs
      desi vlogs 7 months ago

      @Surajnwk 0 yeah, my mistake. I think you're right indeed!

    • Surajnwk 0
      Surajnwk 0 7 months ago


  • Veck
    Veck 7 months ago +7

    Ronaldo doesn't need Real Madrid specifically, just a team that features creative midfielders capable of picking passes for him. Juventus' midfield outside of Pjanic doesn't suit Ronaldo at all, Matuidi has a great work rate but even so doesn't seem to cover as much ground as a Kanté or even Sissoko despite being the same type of player. Emre Can and/or Khedira are very plain players without anything that they're particularly good at.
    Overall Juventus needs to change the way the team plays if they're going to take advantage of Ronaldo's twilight years, if you give him the chances he'll give you the goals.

    • Kyle Chambers
      Kyle Chambers 7 months ago +2

      Are people this stupid? They expect a 34 year old to run around the whole pitch and create his own goals?

    • Ahoy ツ
      Ahoy ツ 7 months ago

      4thandspring so true that’s why Messi is the best in the world and miles ahead of CR7 - from a Juve fan

    • roberto5red5rocky
      roberto5red5rocky 7 months ago

      Only one player in history didnt need help you prick. Diego!

    • roberto5red5rocky
      roberto5red5rocky 7 months ago

      I mean surely we have seen Messi win without Iniesta, Xavi, Suarez or Neymar right? all Ballon D'or finalist. The one finalist Ronaldo played with ( Modric) is being called the worst Ballon D'or winner in history, haha. But yes i see your point Ronaldo is the worst player in the world. you must work for NASA, what a brilliant mind. @Alex Vega

    • roberto5red5rocky
      roberto5red5rocky 7 months ago

      Your right, Ronaldo is trash, Never scores without help, Never wins individual or team awards, Never scores from distance or wins aerials no one else can,Never won a International trophy while leading the team in goals. Yes your right hes had a terrible career. Totally overrated... @Alex Vega

  • Nahom
    Nahom 7 months ago +49

    Im a real fan but Ronaldo doesn’t need us he’s fine in Turin. This Ajax team is just as legendary as 16-17 Monaco team. Deserve respect im rooting for Ajax rest of the tourney 👌

    • K4 Josiah
      K4 Josiah 7 months ago +3

      And ajax still hasn't released huntelaar on any teams, theyll be shook

    • AFCADaan9
      AFCADaan9 7 months ago +20

      Nahom it’s way more impressive then monaco, monaco had 60 mil to spend at a player like falcao, Ajax doesn’t have that money.

  • Nina
    Nina 7 months ago +5

    Messi fan boys salty because Messi will never win 3 champions league in a row Barka could never 🖕☺🤣

    • Marem Warkhungam
      Marem Warkhungam 7 months ago

      @Nina You are gonna eat your words,i'll be back here when Barca wins the semi against Liverpool or Porto

    • Keavon Johnson
      Keavon Johnson 7 months ago +3

      No 1 cares about 3 champions league back to back all we barca fans want to win is the treple this season something Ronaldo has never done

    • chrisL02
      chrisL02 7 months ago

      @Nina lol you are really that stupid... Football is played with 11 Players Just in case you missed it

    • Nina
      Nina 7 months ago

      @chrisL02 If Messi is so good why didn't he win in 3 years in a row? And calm down you guys only won against United and Lyon LMAO you will get eliminated in the next stage

    • chrisL02
      chrisL02 7 months ago +1

      @Nina so what? if ronaldo is so fucking good why didn't he win yesterday on his own? haha stay with cricket bro.

  • Kim Yung ill
    Kim Yung ill 7 months ago +16

    Ajax got it's revenge of 95-96. Juventus was full of steroids. Their medical team was the same team that provided roids to cyclers. Revenge is sweet. Ajax forever!

    • silloweet
      silloweet 6 months ago

      @Alfredo Oliveira Ajax isn't bigger 😂 Ajax did win fairly but they got referees favor on 50/50 challenges, and those drugs were in 1996 let it go

    • Alfredo Oliveira
      Alfredo Oliveira 6 months ago

      @silloweet In a way it's revenge. In addition, Ajax is much bigger than Juventus and has won all its titles without depending on the help of referees or drugs.

    • amosa mwig
      amosa mwig 7 months ago +1

      @Teufel Hunden oooh don't underestimate roids, they have a *great* impact when it comes to endurance for 90 minutes, the best impact on its fullest is when your opponent is already tired around the 70th minute.

    • silloweet
      silloweet 7 months ago +2

      @Kim Yung ill It seems like you're the one crying, because I said it isn't revenge. I doubt you're even an ajax fan 😂

  • Football Made Simple
    Football Made Simple 7 months ago

    Hi guys. I got a full tactical review of the match last night on my channel. Check it out

  • Lion Not Human
    Lion Not Human 7 months ago +16

    Give ronaldo another year to adapt and trust me he’ll reach the finals next year

    • Pranav Ss
      Pranav Ss 7 months ago

      @Why are you gay? whaaaaaaaaat

    • Mexichango piojoso AKA el asco del mundo
      Mexichango piojoso AKA el asco del mundo 7 months ago

      Kaay Zii champions leqgue he went from 16 goals to 5 lol no more offside goals

    • Emmanuel Chuks
      Emmanuel Chuks 7 months ago

      Hamzie Plays he’s the top scorer for juventus. Do u even watch football?

    • Kaay Zii
      Kaay Zii 7 months ago

      Quantum PT I disagree, Allegri’s tactic’s is consistent enough. On the team this time around imo.

    • Kaay Zii
      Kaay Zii 7 months ago

      Benny blanco tbh, VAR exposed madrid more than CR7. Ronaldo is still scoring 😂

  • Johni Wellington
    Johni Wellington 7 months ago +6

    Ronaldo needs real Madrid more because real plays the ball more faster and smarter.

    • Rodrigo Fernandes
      Rodrigo Fernandes 7 months ago +1

      Ronaldo scored 3 against Atletico and 2 against Ajax, you think he would have scored more if he played for Real?

  • Gracious Kasunda
    Gracious Kasunda 7 months ago +1

    3:39 hahahahahaah ohh Gab

  • Chika L
    Chika L 7 months ago

    How is Shaka a football pundit? Everything he says is wrong

  • Slavic Soldier
    Slavic Soldier 7 months ago +38

    Ronaldo downgraded himself from Real Madrid to Juve. After all the battles now Messi is gonna get the CL, the golden boot and the Ballon d`or. He`ll overshadow Ronaldo coz he couldn`t let go of his ego. Real shame to give your tittle as king of football and go play in a shitty team like Juventus. The Seria A and Coppa Italia have no value anymore.

    • EDM Castle
      EDM Castle 5 months ago

      @ElSpewtardo all I know is that you need great stats to be called a great player and his stats became better at RM not Man Utd.So,in my opinion he needed Man Utd to be better and RM to be the best becoz I believe that every player needs a better team to be the best.

    • ElSpewtardo
      ElSpewtardo 5 months ago +1

      @EDM Castle The implication was that Ronaldo needed RM to become a better player which wasn´t true, he was bought when he was already the best in the world.

    • EDM Castle
      EDM Castle 5 months ago

      @ElSpewtardoEvery player needs a team,it is football not Tennis.I don't know what sports you watch but it can't be football.

    • Rehaan Aamir
      Rehaan Aamir 5 months ago +2

      Messi lost Champions league, Copa del rey and Balon dor in the same month

    • Ngm Mngw
      Ngm Mngw 6 months ago +2

      @Slavic Soldier Messi is going to win the champions league what?

  • Nick Chance
    Nick Chance 7 months ago

    Coming from an American, never listen to these absolute morons. I could do their job ten times better with zero of the mental errors they make. Baffles me they are employed to do this. Fuck off espn