Where in the world is it easiest to get rich? | Harald Eia | TEDxOslo

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  • Опубликовано: 2 май 2016
  • In which society is it easiest to get rich? Contrary to common belief, it is not countries like the US or the UK that create the highest number of rich people per capita, but Nordic social democracies like Norway and Sweden. Counter intuitive as it may sound, high taxes, generous welfare states and strong unions makes a better environment for the people who wants to earn huge amounts of money, than free markets, low taxes, and minimal government intervention.
    Harald Eia is a trained sociologist who works in television with comedy and documentaries.
    This talk was given at a TEDx event using the TED conference format but independently organized by a local community. Learn more at ted.com/tedx

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  • Dejan Kojic
    Dejan Kojic 21 час назад

    Greetings from Norway! For immigrants, the USA is still the best (for getting rich). Most of Norway's wealth/ is oil based. This means that access to it is controlled by the government/oligarchy and access is granted only to members of the native club. You will have a decent enough life but you will not get rich. One should not forget that it is USA's protection spending that Norway benefits from (and consequently doesn't have to spend own money) and that US oil companies have really developed the Norwegian oil industry. That happened because of Norway's important strategic position (blocking the exit of USSR's/Russia's northern fleet to world oceans). Norway is a country with harsh climate and almost no arable land. If it wasn't for the access to the sea, communication and feeding the population in Norway would (historically) be impossible. After the WW2, because of the traditionally poor inhabitants, there was a real danger of Norway going communist. So the USA did what it did with the rest of Bretton-Woods clients, they bought their allegiance. The fact that Norwegians are gloating about how their system is superior to the USA's one is BS, a little bit like this TED talk. Thanks for reading so far. :-)

  • Bruno P
    Bruno P 2 дня назад

    If you believe that high taxes and trade unions allow people to be rich you need to stop smoking crack

  • ifeanyi onyia odike
    ifeanyi onyia odike 2 дня назад

    Moral labour; Unskilled labour is highly underappreciated in scandanavia

  • smallbluemachine
    smallbluemachine 2 дня назад

    Investing in people! This is outrageous and I'm not paying for it! If my servants can't read, they can't overthrow my authority.

  • Maxjohan1983
    Maxjohan1983 6 дней назад +1

    More billionaire per capita in Scandinavia... but there's 11 million USD millionaires in the USA.

  • bob niblitt
    bob niblitt 7 дней назад

    In a house directly above a new oil field?

  • wade5941
    wade5941 10 дней назад

    Why is education in the US so much more than in most other countries.

  • The Generalist
    The Generalist 10 дней назад

    Great humor but even better message.

  • Mark Edwards
    Mark Edwards 14 дней назад

    He is leaving out a whole lot.

  • Anza Borrego
    Anza Borrego 15 дней назад +1

    Serious topic, presented with a good touch of humor = a classic !!
    ...still good to watch two years later

  • b nf
    b nf 16 дней назад

    Free educations, this is what all countries need to have.
    It may not produce much more riches, but it will certainly lessen serious social problems.

  • Muluye Mengie
    Muluye Mengie 20 дней назад

    it's good deligation !!!

  • Richard Scoresby
    Richard Scoresby 20 дней назад

    Good talk, but there is one major missing component- social diversity. What if you look at subgroups? Look at U.S. regions, consider racial background, etc. Results would be different with better controls. The model is too simplistic.

  • Conrad Kotze
    Conrad Kotze 20 дней назад

    lol what about genetics ,if u bigger better looking and more intelligent = higher economic status ,very simple equation
    education does help but the aptitude is most important

  • discord dude
    discord dude 20 дней назад

    No where.

  • FROMIS_9 IDOLSCHOOL
    FROMIS_9 IDOLSCHOOL 21 день назад

    Thank for 100% of knowledge and 1000% of comedy

  • RockStrongoG
    RockStrongoG 21 день назад

    Since when is Switzerland just a tax heaven?! Tax heaven are the small islands like bemuda etc...
    After this statement I will stop the video

  • Kristin Bienia
    Kristin Bienia 22 дня назад

    Spectacular findings and very well narrated, too. Really loved his talk! I always knew USA sucks. It's not understandable for me how they can praise their own country as the "best" in the entire world while their people are homeless, in jobs without dignity, have no welfare, well simply struggle for survival day in and out. And then you have rich people like Donald Trump and the "establishment" that take political decisions for the "poor". Ridiculous and unfortunately very inefficient. I'm happy to have enjoyed FREE education in Germany, that I was able to complete my studies for NO fees whatsoever and that I can go to the doctor without fearing huge bills. Western Europe is a true paradise for a healthy and successful life, so we should all be grateful for it and happily pay our taxes :P

  • Xhosa Billionaire Xhosa Billionaire

    I like this guy

  • monkeypoozer
    monkeypoozer 22 дня назад

    Nice idea, but your assumptions are wrong. The goal of capitalism isn't to produce more "rich people" per capita according to some scale of global income.. It works because it produces products of higher value but at lower cost to society, allowing a given income whether rich or poor to equate to a larger pool of goods and services than what it might equate to if the production of those goods were less efficient. In fact the statistics you cite are contrary to your argument.. The larger proportion of rich people per capita is evidence that your production lines are less efficient as due competition has not been allowed to iterate on the optimization of an industry's profit margins thanks to excessive government intervention resulting in the protection of corrupt monopolies.
    I know it's a nice idea, socialism, if you had to guess which social, economic and political system were, if you advocated it most likely to pay off your sins and get you a free pass into heaven or Shangrila, socialism beats Capitalism hands down. But that doesn't make it correct. See through your instincts and prejudices and try to see the facts for what they are.

  • omwttt
    omwttt 22 дня назад

    It's easier to get rich in countries that cap your pay and charge you more in taxes is his argument... Listen 13 mins in. LOL

  • Jose  Portela
    Jose Portela 22 дня назад

    He treats a so complex affair in a comedic way. In such a way that boring things turn into easy and light.

  • Scott Johnson
    Scott Johnson 23 дня назад

    Free government education is not FREE. It ads a consideral tax burden to the whole population, particularly the middle class.

    • Amphibiot
      Amphibiot 14 дней назад

      I literally don't see a problem with that. Rich people will manage. They will be fine.
      And the reward, long term, is a higly skilled and educated work force who will give back to the community.

    • Epsensieg 18
      Epsensieg 18 22 дня назад

      Its better than having millions of debt slaves.

  • Richard Bigham
    Richard Bigham 23 дня назад

    he doesn't mention that a lot of these Scandinavian countries were broke in the 70s because of their socialist policies they now have more economic freedom than the US

  • APS Chauhan
    APS Chauhan 23 дня назад

    Great video .But let me earn you if you remain liberal with immigration you would lose this dream .

  • VANAD KB 'SHIVA'
    VANAD KB 'SHIVA' 23 дня назад

    Can't say American dream & scandanavia together. Paradox

  • armando dane
    armando dane 24 дня назад

    I'll take high IQ populations for $600, please.

  • Marushia Dark
    Marushia Dark 24 дня назад

    I question whether free education is what caused the result of Scandinavia having more rich people than the US, since how many of those rich people actually were the beneficiaries of said free education? Donald Trump, for instance, went to Wharton, but his father was already wealthy, so I sincerely doubt he had to take out student loans or a government grant. Likewise, millionaires and billionaires move around, so how many of these rich people are lifelong citizens of their countries versus moved elsewhere?

  • Jason King
    Jason King 25 дней назад

    Hmmm... so those people who lose jobs to machines... what are they then supposed to do?

    • Jason King
      Jason King 13 дней назад

      Wishful thinking..... but reality is different......

    • Epsensieg 18
      Epsensieg 18 13 дней назад

      Most of Europe has that safety net. As for the third world they get any benefits but they also don't have an unemployment problem life us in the west.

    • Jason King
      Jason King 13 дней назад

      Yes, so what about other countries (majority) where they don't have this "safety net".... yo will either beg or starve/ freeze to death.. that is progress?

    • Epsensieg 18
      Epsensieg 18 13 дней назад

      We do in Australia.

    • Jason King
      Jason King 13 дней назад

      Don't think most countries offer that....

  • Dr Liz Miller
    Dr Liz Miller 25 дней назад

    This is brilliant- eat your hearts SJWs

  • Craig Osborn
    Craig Osborn 26 дней назад

    Is the money exchange rate adjust to employment comparison, America has over a trillion dollars in dept student loans. Technology has removed the need for human labour.i question some of your findings

  • Dusty Wilson
    Dusty Wilson 27 дней назад

    Such a paradoxical lecture.

  • Lalit Sharma
    Lalit Sharma 28 дней назад

    Quality of TED Talk speakers has deteriorated immensely

  • Mark Thompson
    Mark Thompson 29 дней назад

    Can anyone explain the logic that the unions increasing minimum wage and leading to technological advances, mean that engineers in Norway get paid less than in the USA(

  • Senpai SAN
    Senpai SAN 29 дней назад

    USA and long run hahaha ha ha hahaha haa hhaaahaha i could to this for ever btw

  • HistoricLife
    HistoricLife 29 дней назад

    Seems there are a lot of people here who didn't watch the whole thing and don't understand what per capita means.

  • Lil Nigga
    Lil Nigga Месяц назад

    Mate, There's no easy way to become rich (automatically). Sometimes, it usually depends on where you're from or where you live.
    Los Angeles would be an example of the rich.

    • Epsensieg 18
      Epsensieg 18 22 дня назад

      If you're from the west then everyone is rich compared to the majority who come from third or developing worlds.

  • karan varma
    karan varma Месяц назад

    The data is presented and compared in an unfair manner. But I would agree with the social mobility point.

  • AMRAN KHAN
    AMRAN KHAN Месяц назад

    It is very easy to get rich in pakistan by hook or crook

  • Tomi Hirvonen
    Tomi Hirvonen Месяц назад

    Nice way of putting things and love the statistics.Did I see that Finland wasnt scandinavia at all?Many enjoying these benefits will agree. Anyhow I wish some global harmonization to come quick in to play.

  • cony.!! pls animes
    cony.!! pls animes Месяц назад

    where in matrix world but you have the administrator key which create anything you want instantly.

  • RsAirmax
    RsAirmax Месяц назад

    Does not make sense to me that he excludes Switzerland. To compare Switzerland with Monaco is a joke.

  • Jim Moushoul
    Jim Moushoul Месяц назад

    Getting rich is different than staying rich or dying rich. Going from zero to $30ml is one climb staying there is another story.

  • dusan dragovic
    dusan dragovic Месяц назад

    Brilliant! Viking

  • Jukka Takamaa
    Jukka Takamaa Месяц назад

    Finland is no longer scandinavia ?

    • Amphibiot
      Amphibiot 14 дней назад

      Scandinavia is Norway, Sweden and Denmark only.
      Finland, along with Scandinavia and Iceland is part of the Nordic Countries, otherwise known as Norden or The Nordics.
      But your username looks Finnish. You should know this already.
      I wrote this more for the benefit of someone who is not from Norden who might be confused about the difference.

  • Lordofall Infinite
    Lordofall Infinite Месяц назад

    Ehem Sweden does not have as many regulations ehem

  • Israel Christian
    Israel Christian Месяц назад

    Because of all this automation, I am curious as to what the unemployment rate in Scandinavia is? Scandinavia definitely sounds like economic Utopia.

  • mmikkone
    mmikkone Месяц назад

    Judging by the comments, this seems to be important to people. The fact that there are a lot of rich people is an honor to a country. Wouldn't it be more important the see which country has least poor people or even where the people are happiest?

  • Douglas Anderson
    Douglas Anderson Месяц назад

    I'm not sure I find this fellows logic compelling. I have to question what he means by education is expensive in US. But, I don't disagree with his unspoken point that big money / big corporations like big unions and big government.

  • Lu A.G.
    Lu A.G. Месяц назад

    For those of us who know odds are not realistic that we will end up in that small percentage of "rich" people ( that's in any Country ) -- What Country has the highest average salary statistics in relation to currencies, cost-of-living, etc. ?

  • Sebastian J
    Sebastian J Месяц назад

    Scandinavia rules because of 10:36 =D

  • John Burns
    John Burns Месяц назад

    Many rich people made their money via appropriating _unearned income._ Land is the one that stands out. _"Get into land as they are not making any more of it!"_ Land was given by nature, not made by man. Land is unique by absorbing a community's economic activity. The values in land are _commonly_ created, not by the landowner - the land values are not manna from heaven. The landowner *takes* this value. Many super rich people own *land.* The riches man in the UK is the Duke of Westminster - he owns land producing nothing. The way to stop this economic parasitical activity is to introduce *Land Valuation Taxation.* Then penalties on production, like income tax, can be vastly dropped or removed entirely.

  • Combat18KKKNazi4045
    Combat18KKKNazi4045 Месяц назад

    Statistics got killed by liberals a loooong time ago. I don't trust any statistic or social study anymore. I prefer my gut, as it makes a whole lot more sense than this BS.

    • Debra Combs
      Debra Combs Месяц назад

      Does hatred shape your ENTIRE worldview?

  • Steve Will
    Steve Will Месяц назад

    This is so Typical

  • Knock Em Down Airsoft
    Knock Em Down Airsoft Месяц назад

    Comparing apples to oranges. As if a country as large as the US can compare to a small socialist (soon communist) country like Sweeden, Denmark, etc.

    • Amphibiot
      Amphibiot 14 дней назад

      Soon communist? How so? Explain please.

  • Петър Петров
    Петър Петров Месяц назад

    Does scandinavians even think of corruption or somehow abusing the system?
    The communism reigned over Bulgaria for 45 years. It had ended before I was born but by the report from the elderly it seems to had been a totaly corupt system, abused by the governors and by the citizens.

    • Amphibiot
      Amphibiot 14 дней назад

      Short answer: No.
      Longer answer: We have all our needs met. What's the point of introducing corruption into a system where everything works just fine the way it is?

  • Alejandra
    Alejandra Месяц назад

    1.3k Americans don't like this

  • Larry Panozzo
    Larry Panozzo Месяц назад

    Whoa. I’ve been saying a lot of these things for years. Now I can reference this video!

  • vhtriyok
    vhtriyok Месяц назад

    America is ALL about the 1%. From Tax code to Penal Laws. ALL HAIL TO THE 1%!

  • sorty mejia
    sorty mejia Месяц назад

    Love this talk. Thank you

  • mightymagnus
    mightymagnus Месяц назад

    If you change to "where in the world is it easiest to get rich (if your parents pay for your education)?" would it change from Scandinavia to something else?

  • Alpha Centauri
    Alpha Centauri Месяц назад

    USA

  • Dan Kuo
    Dan Kuo Месяц назад

    I wonder if Scandinavian countries opened its borders to economic refugees around the world to see if the system really works as this speaker is advocating to create even more billionaires. Scandinavian socialism will be minting far more billionaires.

  • Jonny Nguyen
    Jonny Nguyen Месяц назад

    what i dont understand here is what is the definition of being rich in his perception and mind.

  • steelvegas
    steelvegas Месяц назад

    It's Individual ingenuity and grit that has the greatest impact on a person's success rate. Not society. This guy also forgot to say just how crazy high Scandinavian taxes are in comparison to taxes in the USA. Higher education is a debt trap for those paying for it. For nations that can afford free higher education - great! But that is because they have very small populations. The population of China, India, and the USA are significantly higher and this prohibitively expensive to give free higher education by stearin only from those who work to those who produce virtually nothing for society - students.

  • pink lake.
    pink lake. Месяц назад

    Great speech. Funny, understandable, informative. Thanks

  • Stella Norsdatter
    Stella Norsdatter Месяц назад

    Hahahahah
    Harald Eia på engelsk
    Jesus Christ

    • Amphibiot
      Amphibiot 14 дней назад

      Jeg har hørt verre. Mye verre. Mye, mye, MYE verre. Thorbjørn Jagland og Solberg-brødrene, for eksempel.

  • Oliver
    Oliver Месяц назад

    Answer from Video: Scandinavia.

  • victor arregnelle
    victor arregnelle Месяц назад

    wrong on everything! But it sounds very convincing. Capitalism makes people rich like he said at the very beginning not education. Education is good for workers mostly.

  • Daniel Sovgut
    Daniel Sovgut Месяц назад

    there is no research here, and reasons for why that might be the case that Scandinavia is up there on the list with the US on the rich people list is flawed. Showing a picture of a self-checkout in Sweeden doesn't really prove anything, they have them in the US as well. Same about tolls. I live in the US and I don't remember last time I have seen someone paying toll fare to a person. Also, it feels like you just said whatever you felt like was true since there were no evidence. What's the linkage between free education and getting rich? Did you investigate or quantify it? No you just made an assumption. And I am not even against Scandinavian systems, on the opposite, I admire them greatly. However, as a masters student who is doing a ted talk you need to be more professional and present real research and facts.

  • APolly
    APolly Месяц назад

    Well I think it's a little biased. For example Switzerland has low taxes and still runs pretty good. They have good education, good medical insurance system, a solid social safety net, ect. High taxes is no way a good indicator for having more rich people, it can also be counter effective, when taxes get so high that you have no way to get in the upper class, because the middle class allready gets the highest taxes, like for example in Germany. And Germany is one of the most unfair countries when it comes to
    income distribution.
    Also you can not exclude for example Hong Kong and Switzerland, because they have artificially gained more millionaires, while Norway sits on a state owned Oil fund, and subsidize the nation.
    There is not one recipe for success, there are many, and they depend on different circumstances.

  • Tadek5
    Tadek5 Месяц назад

    Scandinavian system takes 80 % in taxex , maybe more. How much does it return to people and how much does the system eat? 50/50 ? Much better and it is easier to leave money for people, then they will be rich and independent of the system of forced happiness.

  • Tadek5
    Tadek5 Месяц назад +1

    well labour unions. In Poland workers earn 4000 pln and is representative boss of labour union 20 000 pln . Plus auto and free hotels and so on. Labour unions representatve themself only. Only a grup of press on government to get profits on other people cost.

  • Lenyn Feijoo
    Lenyn Feijoo Месяц назад

    Why doesn’t he account for the fact that the US is much larger and do numbers for each state

  • Chris Baker
    Chris Baker Месяц назад

    I was thinking $5 million was rich $30 million is really rich.

  • Lee Murray
    Lee Murray Месяц назад

    Who wants to have their wages capped? Talk about demoralizing. So basically the union or government tells you how much or little you can do. Sounds innovative for sure! 🙄

    • Amphibiot
      Amphibiot 14 дней назад

      That's a very american way of thinking.
      There are other ways of thinking that also work just fine.
      The scandinavian lifestyle is that we work to live, not live to work.
      The eternal pursuit of wealth is something that most scandinavians wouldn't really bother with, as long as we have all the things we need and then some anyway.
      It might be difficult to wrap your head around, but the scandinavian lifestyle is so fundamentally different from the american one. And i know it's difficult to put yourself in someone else's shoes and see things from their perspective if you have no frame of reference for even how to do that, but you need to take our word for it.

  • Ash Ali
    Ash Ali Месяц назад

    shitisitics

  • pascoett
    pascoett Месяц назад

    How did those few people in Scandinavia make their money? There wasn’t always a high taxation welfare state and many companies were founded before. Don’t forget: Norway hasn’t a lot of inhabitants and made its money with gas and oil. Not very difficult to run a low populated country with vast amounts of resources. Sweden was like Switzerland spared in the 2nd WW and could deliver its products to a re-emerging Europe. Also they sit or sat on vast amounts of high quality resources and IKEA (whose founder and owner lived in tax heaven Switzerland) could produce cheaply because of cheap and highly available wood. There is always a story behind mere numbers. Let’s not forget this!

    • Amphibiot
      Amphibiot 14 дней назад

      The oil fallacy again.
      Norway was on the economic rise BEFORE the oil was discovered. Quality of life was already massively on the rise before a single platform was built.
      Then the oil and gas was discovered and that helped, yes, but it wasn't exclusively because of the oil that things went well.
      By that logic, the other nordic countries should be a lot worse than what they are, but they are perfectly fine.

  • Jonathan King
    Jonathan King Месяц назад

    Unfortunately some countries measure wealth inaccurately. If you want to know the value of wealth in your country, consider the state on all its merits and for all its citizens, look at; freedoms, healthcare, health, opportunities, equalities, happiness, lifestyle, working hours, free media sources, accessibilities and amenities... and then money. It goes on and on. If we rethink wealth, we wouldn't be so monstrously hypnotised by Forbes rich lists and celebrity lifestyles.

  • Adhd Billionaire
    Adhd Billionaire Месяц назад

    easiest place to make money is USA tbh

  • Rich 91
    Rich 91 Месяц назад

    Actually the real explanation is influx of Low IQ mexicans and blacks, take those out and US would have more billionaires per capita than scandanavia white population

  • Land Lord
    Land Lord Месяц назад

    It working out greatly for me here in Finland.

  • adeoflagos Ade
    adeoflagos Ade Месяц назад

    After migrating to the US, I now believe it's more difficult to move up from rag to riches except one has some special talent. First thing I observe is that kids from poor neighbourhoods are stuck to going to schools in the same poor neighbourhoods with limited opportunities of social interaction beyond their immediate social environments. No chance of creating and maintaining useful social interactions and network of individuals that could impact each other lives positively. Where I come from, you could be a child of a street vendor and be a classmate of a child of a middle-income. banker. And child of a middle-income banker can be classmate of a child of a business tycoon. I went to a public high school in Lagos, Nigeria in the 80s that had kids from very low-income families to upper-middle income families. Sometimes this kind of interaction among kids of diverse backgrounds fuel the motivation of kids from poor families to want to succeed in live. It was same experience in the university. These kind of experience and social interactions also influence the dynamics of people's movement from one part of the social ladder to another. Of course there are bigger factors but things like this are also important.

  • Guarach Es
    Guarach Es Месяц назад

    "The Unions are, in effect, subsidizing, the Capitalists," This is the main point and moral of the story here folks.

  • Juan Perez
    Juan Perez 2 месяца назад

    Dallas, Texas. Key word is "oil" (but don't tell anyone.....sshhhh)

  • Radha Krishna Ramagiri
    Radha Krishna Ramagiri 2 месяца назад

    The concept of being Rich has been forgotten by you. You really don't understand what is being Rich.
    Rich is abundance of opportunity to do your will. Rk

  • ray rep
    ray rep 2 месяца назад

    yeah well first off, get rid of paying interest to the money supply makers and just pay the cost to make the fake paper notes. The interest was not factored into the cash supply. we will never pay back this fake money being supplied.

  • Kjetil Hvalstrand
    Kjetil Hvalstrand 2 месяца назад

    Except that you pay more for everything, if you stay in Norway, so the money is worth less in Norway but take that money to different country then it's worth something. a extremely simple camping trip in Norway is as expensive air ticket to different country plus the price of a nice 5 stars hotel all inclusive in different country.

  • Dustin Ho
    Dustin Ho 2 месяца назад

    The stupidest education ever.

  • Samster The Hamster
    Samster The Hamster 2 месяца назад

    He’s a fun guy but his explanations come up short. I’m sure if you take people from Scandinavian descent as a subgroup in the US they will be richer and have higher prevalence at the 30 million and 1 billion marks compared to Scandinavians living in Scandinavia. Higher average IQ and consciousness is what makes Scandinavians more successful economically. It must be that the rough winters have for generations selected out individuals with those attributes, the same attributes that now allow them to be economically more successful.

  • Hoàng Điệp Lựu
    Hoàng Điệp Lựu 2 месяца назад

    Brunei.

  • Jesus King
    Jesus King 2 месяца назад

    Thanks for the speech.
    I agree, all debts, especially student loans are only good to keep you back and limit you on finishing college with a degree. I've been in college about 5 times and most of the time I've been forced to drop because not being able to cover the tuition.
    Free education would allow everyone including mothers and blue collar workers to achieve their full potential.

  • Jarl Inge Sandvik
    Jarl Inge Sandvik 2 месяца назад

    Lier as all Norwegian s.

  • like a zombie in the dawn
    like a zombie in the dawn 2 месяца назад

    Social democracy is certainly one step in the right direction. But to argue it's the better system because it's easier to get rich just gives the wrong message. I'd rather see way less multi-millionairs and more engineers earning 100±K. Someone getting rich is fine, but a system that leeches on the middle class to make it easier for already rich people to get even richer, and therefore make it harder for the middle classes to increase their assets, is a bad (I'd be curious about the social mobility of middle classes in skandinavia). I believe to approach social inequality by keeping a massively over-priveleged (rich) elite class and only focusing on the poorest, is neither a sustainable nor a just system.

  • Matthew Gill
    Matthew Gill 2 месяца назад

    Where in the US did he go to not see an EZ tag and an automatic cashier.

  • Movie News
    Movie News 2 месяца назад

    2:20 THREE THOUGHTS

  • Robert Howes
    Robert Howes 2 месяца назад

    Stefan Molyneux needs to see this.

  • Cade Holbrook
    Cade Holbrook 2 месяца назад

    You're a sociologist, not an economist. Take your cosmopolitan left-wing Marxism elsewhere.

  • Bitcoin FightClub
    Bitcoin FightClub 2 месяца назад

    Lol. This gave me a chuckle . So, if this is true, then why aren’t people immigrating to Scandinavian countries ?

    • Amphibiot
      Amphibiot 14 дней назад

      Scandinavia has had quite a massive immigration over the years in relation to our size. Birth rates have gone down, but population has kept on rising, because of immigrants moving in.

  • B N
    B N 2 месяца назад

    x 1.5