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Will Our FREE Abandoned Airplane Finally Start? Ep4

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  • Published on Jan 27, 2022
  • Today on Rebuild Rescue we get done a lot of work to be able to finally get this engine started! After a long night of completely taking apart and cleaning the fuel system, we finally get fuel running into the engine.
    Once we are able to get the fuel injectors and lines reinstalled, we roll the Cessna 401 outside to see if the work completed so far will be enough to get this engine to finally turn over after over 15 years!
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Comments • 8 500

  • YouTube
    YouTube 3 months ago +2399

    watching someone be so passionate about something takes the video to a whole other level. incredible work!!

    • GUY CHA0S
      GUY CHA0S 24 days ago

      Agree

    • zackgaming 297
      zackgaming 297 Month ago

      fliping youtube!?!?!?!?

    • Daniel Souza
      Daniel Souza Month ago

      Wow

    • Kiggy phonk
      Kiggy phonk Month ago

      Hi

    • Quarantine Quagmire
      Quarantine Quagmire Month ago

      @Rebuild Rescue @RU-clip wow. This is the first time seeing a comment from RU-clip haha. I’m a new subscriber & so glad I found you guys. Keep up the great work 🙏

  • Luke Out
    Luke Out 3 months ago +2511

    The starter seems sluggish turning the engine over. You should check all electrical connections from the batteries to the starter. Use proper connectors rather then jump leads. If that fails, parallel another set of batteries so you have a higher starting current available. Can't wait to see this thing fire up

    • Michael Laferriere
      Michael Laferriere 2 months ago

      @Sevalecan I think the 28V people are thinking "lipo" battery versus lead acid, either that or getting confused by the voltage once the alternators start producing.

    • Michael Laferriere
      Michael Laferriere 2 months ago

      @Kelly Robinson A turbo wont do much until it starts spinning from the exhaust pressure. No combustion there aint much coming out of the exhaust.

    • Michael Laferriere
      Michael Laferriere 2 months ago

      @Eagle201 28 Volt system with a 24 volt lead acid battery. The 28 volts comes from alternator once the engine(s) get running. The extra 4 volts are needed to charge the battery. You might also be thinking of lipo batteries.

    • Randall Walls
      Randall Walls 3 months ago +1

      @Jim J. - I agree; def shower of sparks. I'm so used to the 3xx series Lycomings and they're almost all impulse couplers. Either way, I should have just said "the thing that retarts ignition timing when you hit the starter" lol

    • esandave
      esandave 3 months ago

      @Eagle201 yep they show a lot sparks when testing them
      That is the shower of sparks

  • The 8-Bit Guy
    The 8-Bit Guy 3 months ago +106

    Oh man.. All that suspense! My heart rate was elevated watching the propeller spin. I kept thinking "any second now, it will fire up!"

    • Kiggy phonk
      Kiggy phonk Month ago

      E

    • Alexander Rodi
      Alexander Rodi Month ago +1

      Hey 8 bit guy! I love your vids too!

    • joseph giustiniani
      joseph giustiniani 3 months ago +1

      I think it was trying to start. But the longer it didn't, then you know the battery is not going to deliver what is needed. And finally, as others have said, there is a definite procedure to start one these. IMO, if this were an active engine that was in running condition, he probably could have gotten away with not going by the book. But sitting as long as this has, nope. I think a manual procedure would help. Just wondering,- why didn't he ask a pilot for advice. He's at a hanger with plenty of folks around. Even if it was what not to do......

    • Иван Иванов
      Иван Иванов 3 months ago

      try to chek compression rate at all cylinders

  • Teddy F
    Teddy F 3 months ago +27

    Just a tip- when starting something that doesn't want to fire up instantly, you shouldn't just hold the starters on, you should give like 5 second pulses of starting with 20 second breaks in between- it lets the batteries warm up and come alive much more than just holding it on.

  • Michael Scampini
    Michael Scampini 3 months ago +24

    Hi! My name is Mike and I've really enjoyed watching what you're doing with that 401. My father owned one and I got to fly it two times. I'm excited as hell for you! I can't wait to hear that motor start. Good luck to you!

  • Robert Dartz
    Robert Dartz 3 months ago +15

    I have become extremely invested in this series. I know next to nothing about planes but it's still been fascinating to watch you pour your heart in soul into this machine. I hope to the all mighty you get that thing in the air one day

  • Caoimhin Tew
    Caoimhin Tew 3 months ago +357

    It does have compression, I can see that from the RPM difference. I also saw a few points in the turning-over that looked like it tried to start. What I think is going on is insufficient turn-over force from the batteries. The jumper cables can't send it enough current to start it the way it wants to start. Mags need the RPM to make enough spark, just like a lawn mower. Recommend: Solid cable ends rather than alligator ends will provide 10x the current.

    • esandave
      esandave 3 months ago

      @jay Dee or it as more likely
      The “Shower of Sparks” system is composed of a magneto with two sets of points installed, a vibrator switch, ignition switch and the aircraft battery. ​ The magneto has two sets of contact points. One set is adjusted to open 25 degrees before TDC used for normal operation

    • Ramblequist
      Ramblequist 3 months ago +3

      @Craig Miller For people saying not enough crank speed, I use to hand start an Apache

    • NotYourMom YouSnowflake
      NotYourMom YouSnowflake 3 months ago +1

      he can even connect batteries in parallel for more current to have enough torque (not speed) to get the turbines starting more smoothly. Another thing is too much fuel, drowns the spark plugs - it has to be the right amount.

    • Gary R
      Gary R 3 months ago

      I agree this thing isn't turning over fast enough. Then taken the fact it's more likely low on compression as it is, it needs to turn over even faster to compensate for it. You can have all the fuel and spark you want, if the compression isn't sufficient enough, starting it will be harder to do without fast turn over. If he could get it to turn over twice as fast, it might actually start.

    • Bill Strutton
      Bill Strutton 3 months ago

      I'm thinking throw it from the top of the building and see if it can windmill start :)

  • Banannaman
    Banannaman 3 months ago +24

    As others mentioned, ignition and the cranking amps. My gut tells me the cranking speed is a somewhat slow, but the ignition system needs a check over because even a slow crank can be heavily assisted by some cylinders firing. You are SO close to getting her to start, like SO close! Keep on wrenching, you'll have this thing running in no time.

    • Banannaman
      Banannaman 2 months ago

      @Raddaddy watanen The engine runs on AVgas

    • Raddaddy watanen
      Raddaddy watanen 2 months ago

      @Banannaman If there is kerosne, it will NOT fire. Kerosene burns only on very high compresion

    • Banannaman
      Banannaman 3 months ago

      @esandave Totally agree

    • esandave
      esandave 3 months ago

      You need to read about shower of sparks. Bendix the cranking speed can be pretty low even hand prop if your crazy

  • Norm D
    Norm D 3 months ago +6

    NEVER try to turn the turbo from the intake nut, you can snap the shaft. Always turn from the Turbine side.

  • Cindy Smith
    Cindy Smith 3 months ago +11

    I love seeing how determined you are to make this happen!! Keep going brother!! You got this!!

  • Dave Schowengerdt
    Dave Schowengerdt 3 months ago +11

    Just wanted to say it’s awesome seeing a honorable man keep his calm and keep working and not lower himself to people that try and get something for doing nothing but throwing money around knowing that u have paid for everything u have done at this time along with ur time since ur not being paid. I tip my hat to u sir and keep being a good person

    • AnubisXIII
      AnubisXIII 2 months ago +1

      @Bucksnort honesty, I lost interest in this whole thing, your guy is just milking it, sorry but his making thousands of youtube ads, free airplane to fix, private sponsors every episode, and still got the audacity to start a go fund me? a Service meant for people to help each other at the time of need!!!

    • Bucksnort
      Bucksnort 2 months ago

      @AnubisXIII I personally don't think the " its yours if you get it running " Is 100 % true Just doesn't make sense if you take on a project like this and start putting high dollar parts on it and say oh well we didn't get it running hell yes your going to get it running

    • AnubisXIII
      AnubisXIII 3 months ago +1

      The original owners money compensated all the hard work of the people who built this thing, and made it exist in the first place. Hence, he deserves owning it. He gave him a great offer out of love for the plane he owns and wishes to see it fly again even if he doesn’t own it. He created a youtube show out of it, and due to it, other people saw the value in it. I understand words and contracts are biding, and i'd love to see the full show of it being fixed, but I hate to continue watching it knowing that the original owner gets nothing out of the whole thing. And you can’t assume he's rich throwing money around, or didn’t work for his money.

  • Justin Robinson
    Justin Robinson 3 months ago +258

    I've said it before but the impulse couplers aren't clicking on the mags.. which helps for starting because you turning over way to slow. Also I've replaced a turbo on one of these and you don't have to remove it to start and oil pressure will probably be fine. It's not turning it fast enough until it's running to get full oil pressure

    • Buck Murdock
      Buck Murdock 3 months ago

      It might be because there are none installed. 😂

    • Justin Robinson
      Justin Robinson 3 months ago

      @TodTALK yeah it will all have to be inspected

    • TodTALK
      TodTALK 3 months ago

      @Randy Fortier well, obviously this guy is allowed to work on it otherwise he wouldn't be working on it, understandably its not about to be air worthy or certified any time soon.
      I dont doubt ur right, n its probably the same here in the u.s. (i think he actually talked about it in a video, i wanna say there is diff levels of repairs, u can only do up to a certain level urself, after that you need someone certified that is not urself, something like that)
      However, if you and me both own a plane both are certified and legally cannot work on our own planes, coincidentally we also share a hangar, are we not going to exchange services?
      Hey you certify my plane, I'll certify yours.
      We'll keep track of the hours we each put into the others plane and we'll square up at the end of the year, or just straight up, sign my name n I'll sign urs. I can guarantee people do this.
      If ur super rich and just fly, ur making money off the plane renting it when ur not in it, n during that time n have mechanic and all that anyway.
      There's big money right now in small luxury jets n planes.
      You can turn a plane like this, if redone properly, into a luxury plane, paint it a beautiful dark color, tint all the windows, make the interior nice af, n now u can get big money for flights but not have to pay the bigger money jet pilots lol.
      Thats what I'd want to do with one of these.

    • Justin Robinson
      Justin Robinson 3 months ago +2

      @Randy Fortier technically as a pilot/owner operator all he is supposed to be able to do is preventative maintenance and he is definitely getting beyond that unless he has an A&p and I don't believe he does lol

    • Just a Pilot
      Just a Pilot 3 months ago

      @esandave Watch it again. When cranking the engine without the plugs in you can hear the impulse coupler snapping. BTW, capitalization and punctuation are a thing.

  • Nicholas Allison
    Nicholas Allison 3 months ago +5

    I stumbled on episode one today and just finished all of them. You are so close to getting that thing running. We're rooting for you!!!

  • Khandzhayan
    Khandzhayan 3 months ago +13

    Patiently waiting for Ep. 5 of the plane rebuild!!! It’s also cool seeing the positive support and feedback! We believe in you man!!

  • Kameron Hammond
    Kameron Hammond 3 months ago +3

    Keep going man! You will figure it out. Your determination and passion are superb and if it doesn't work out just let it go. A learning experience regardless of the outcome. Best wishes.

  • Memphis Mike
    Memphis Mike 3 months ago +3

    I'm loving this project. I'm on the edge of my seat while watching and greatly anticipate a positive outcome. Reading the comments, I recommend better voltage because it's not turning over fast enough but my main concern is sticky valves and/or the timing is off a little. Advance the timing a degree and see if that gets it to start.

  • ewcrawford
    ewcrawford 3 months ago +210

    We work on a lot of heavy equipment and the size of your jumper cable wire makes a huge difference. We build ours from welding cable. At minimum pick up a set of the most expensive cables that Napa offers. Don't forget to have a more beefy cable that bridges your 12 volt batteries. If you want to confirm that you cables are too small then attach your meter to the cable at the starter and watch the voltage drop when you engage the starter. Thanks for the great content. You make us feel like part of the project.

    • Roger Crossley
      Roger Crossley 2 months ago

      @Bob C I agree but it still doesn't alter the fact that the engine was turning too slowly and it appeared to start to help the second time but was still turning too slowly, I have had good engines with slow starters, replace the starter and hey presto it spins and fires, the starter taken off still works but just not fast enough.

    • Bob C
      Bob C 2 months ago

      @Roger Crossley Engines should first be lubed and serviced WITHOUT SPARK PLUGS INSTALLED, until the will freely rotate by hand, then starter should be engaged to rotate until oil pressure comes up, before you reinstall the spark plugs!

    • Naia Shine
      Naia Shine 3 months ago +1

      Subarus getting less than 11 volts from the battery wont generate spark, so you may have a similar situation going on. Im with everyone else. Use thicker cables or run multiple sets in parallel to allow more current to flow.

    • Aaron Janzen
      Aaron Janzen 3 months ago +3

      I build mine from welder cables also,, man Such a huge difference,, now those starters don't know what hit them!

    • Stealth Mode
      Stealth Mode 3 months ago +1

      ET for Ships and Power plants. Engines are not spinning up to proper rpm . if starters are good she must have New plane batteries. she should spinn up like a turbine.

  • Peter Lundberg
    Peter Lundberg 3 months ago +5

    Love the idea and your energy and passion for the project, can't wait for the next episode, one thing i thought of is when you hook up the batteries, those cables looks thin? Can they deliver enough current? I'm only educated car mechanic but have been struggling with starting heavy duty engines with the problem usually being jumper cable related when everything should give signs of starting, also one thing i have learned is that if you have a bad battery in the chain, that battery kills the current flow.
    Hope to see it running soon and no other A**hole trying to steel it from you.
    Cheers from Sweden 🎉

  • Doug Warren
    Doug Warren Month ago

    It's amazing how functional and fresh you were after an all-nighter, amazing. Just your whole demeanor is impressive, you maintained a balanced frame of mind throughout. I'm a big aviation buff, so this series is particularly interesting for me. Glad I found the channel, great job sir. 👍

  • Michal Z.
    Michal Z. 3 months ago

    Congratulations, your effort is really great. From my point of view, it looks to be low rpm during start, every compression reduces speed significantly. As it was written by someone else, I suggest to use the shortest possible jump wires, preferably with real battery connecting terminals, not aligattors. Actual connection adds significant resistance into the starter circuitry, which causes insufficient starter power and undervoltage for the ignition. Many years ago, when I was on mountains in the very cold winter, I took another battery with me and supplied ignition during start from it. It helped to supply the ignition from full battery voltage, independently on voltage drop caused by the starter. With cars, we use simple check, if exhaust smells by unburned fuel during start, engine is flooded, if not, there is no fuel. With previous test, if spark is present of course. Hold my fingers crossed, I wish you good luck.

  • David Hannan
    David Hannan 3 months ago +1

    Oh man! Heartbreaking all of that hard work. I have faith that you can get it running. It seemed like the the cranking amperage from the batteries wasn't enough. Maybe A battery booster might help while cranking. It also is disappointing that the turbo is seized up too. I am excited for the next episode to see what happens.

  • KA H
    KA H 3 months ago +326

    I haven't found a comment saying it, so I will. Im an A&P and work on several aircraft like this model. Those mags have two leads going into them. One is the "P" lead and the other is for the retard breaker points. This aircraft uses a starting vibrator, or shower of sparks unit to start the engines. You need to find that unit and check the condition of the points inside of it. They tend to go to shit when the aircraft sits. Most of the time this is located in the nose baggage bay. Good luck

    • esandave
      esandave 3 months ago

      @Daniel Wampler I think he should ck the prop pitch it my need a fill up

    • Randall Walls
      Randall Walls 3 months ago

      @KA H Nice catch to recognize the mag. I've got more time wrenching on Lycomings, and mainly 320s and 360s - almost always an impulse coupler in those cases. Completely agree with the shower of sparks likely not engaging but I don't have enough experience to suggest a direction. Hopefully he finds the issue!

    • Tim Hardman
      Tim Hardman 3 months ago

      @K B Ha! Give it another month or two. Old Airplanes and Old Boats - need deep pockets to renovate those "great deals". I'd never fly in that thing no matter how pretty he makes it look but I do enjoy watching the renovation attempts and I hope he succeeds...however he defines that.

    • K B
      K B 3 months ago +1

      @Tim Hardman and he hasn't even started the gofundme to save it from that swashbuckling airplane pirate offering the owner $20k...

    • ekuhlkamp
      ekuhlkamp 3 months ago

      I understood none of this but all of it sounds right.

  • Nigel C
    Nigel C 3 months ago +1

    I'm really getting into this now I don't have any previous interest in aeroplanes or mechanics but watching you get so stuck in to try and make this baby work again is so exciting I was absolutely gutted that it didn't start I hope you find the problem because I really want to see a happy ending here lol . Good luck from uk 🇬🇧 👍 💪 😀

  • Paul Carter
    Paul Carter 3 months ago +1

    As an experienced mechanic, I’m sometimes forced to go back to basics when starting a stubborn (or neglected) engine.
    ANY internal combustion engine needs 3 things for it to run.
    1. Good compression.
    2. Proper air/fuel mixture.
    3. Ignition (at the right time).
    An old engine sometimes needs oil in the cylinders to seal the piston rings (and lubricate the dry cylinder as well). That can help restore compression.
    Anything close to a proper air/fuel ratio should at least get it started. One thing that can actually mess up that ratio is fuel-contaminated oil. Not sure about aircraft piston engines, but I’ve seen this plenty of times with automobiles. Clean oil can be a game changer.
    I’ve been fooled a few times with engines that were producing spark, only to discover that timing was an issue. Whether from a partially-sheared flywheel key, an incorrect firing order, or a distributor set in wrong, spark at the wrong moment will ruin your day. (Diesels are ignited by the heat of compression, so two elements are closely related there).
    So my advice is to figure which one or more of these three elements is missing.
    PS Oh, and yes, a higher cranking speed can do wonders to wake up a sleeper. Do they have a start cart there, with some big honking batteries?

  • Hubjeep
    Hubjeep 3 months ago +2

    8:27 instead of white lithium grease, try Fluid Flim. It's awesome stuff, sprays like oil, stays like grease.

  • Michael Messina
    Michael Messina 3 months ago +1

    I admire your tenacity my friend. Your going to get it started soon. I pray for you. You deserve something from your hard work - not dissapointment. Keep it up. The whole world is watching and routing you on. Can't wait to see your next video !

  • Mac Delaney
    Mac Delaney 3 months ago +244

    I like how you're getting us all emotionally invested in this project and telling us that it's just as much our project as it i yours and that you'll never give up on this plane in spite of someone try to spend big money to take it away from you.

    • Michael Power
      Michael Power 3 months ago +2

      Yeah I can’t wait till it’s up flying, I’ll be waiting for my weekend to use our plane . 🎉🎊🥳🍾

    • Freedom040 Fighter
      Freedom040 Fighter 3 months ago

      @Paul Dailey best comment sinds the beginning of the end

    • TheDragorin
      TheDragorin 3 months ago +2

      Yeah isnt emotional manipulation great?

    • 2Fast2Kart
      2Fast2Kart 3 months ago +1

      Literally tho

  • Ray Sullenberger
    Ray Sullenberger 3 months ago +1

    Let's light this candle! Can't wait to hear it run! I think your close and wish you the best.
    Thanks for sharing this story, very informative and enjoyable.

  • Cathy Bonner
    Cathy Bonner 3 months ago

    I've enjoyed watching these videos, you must have a lot of knowledge and patience with this plane.
    Be good to see it flying, good luck

  • Frank Smith
    Frank Smith 3 months ago +1

    You have so many people giving such great info. Go for your A&P! Also hope you get it started man.

  • Ram Penumarti
    Ram Penumarti 3 months ago

    I love this series, im absolutely invested and was mentally willing that engine to turn over so much 😅

  • Eric M. Lange
    Eric M. Lange 3 months ago +200

    As an A&P mechanic and pilot, this has been really fun to watch. Looks like you went through the fuel system pretty good. But you seriously need to go through the ignition system. I guarantee you the magnetos need maintenance, coil, capacitor, points, timing. And the plugs need to either be replaced or if within electrode erosion limits, properly cleaned, gapped, and tested. I know you can get that thing running!

    • esandave
      esandave 3 months ago

      @Pea pee the cam also can be move on rotor to set e gap do you know what e gap is i think not thank you for time not knowing go back work on your lawn mower with points

    • esandave
      esandave 3 months ago

      @Pea pee realy you think so so what is the egap angle when you reindex the cam to rotor yes you know read the book

    • esandave
      esandave 3 months ago

      @Pea pee yes they do but can lift cams off and reindex them to the
      Armature to open at the correct time
      This is call egap or
      Read this
      Aviation Glossary - E-Gap Angle. The position of the rotating magnet in a magneto when the breaker points are timed to open. The E-gap (efficiency gap) angle is several degrees of magnet rotation beyond the magnet's neutral position.

    • Pea pee
      Pea pee 3 months ago

      @esandave thank you for taking the time out to reply -and giving me the information , as Just curious - so as the cam rotates , the points open and close ? Thanks

    • Pea pee
      Pea pee 3 months ago

      @Sigh FPV I have been busy , just wanted to say thank you for taking the time out to reply - Thanks

  • Tony Williams
    Tony Williams 3 months ago

    Loving the channel here in England and really hope it fires soon for you.
    I agree maybe an ignition system electrical issue as you have fuel and air 🤔
    Maybe better luck with the second engine but so fingered crossed and eagerly awaiting the next video buddy.
    Good luck and stay safe guys...

  • Kelly Rohrbach’s BVM Hanger

    love the video and certainly hope you get it started, I think the problem is lack of spark, I saw you checked one plug for spark, did you check them all. I remember you checked the points but I wonder if the batteries your using are enough juice especially when there is so much drain when turning the engine over and if there is maybe a short in the system is there a way to isolate the ignition from the the rest of the system so its getting full power for spark, sure looks like you have enough fuel and air so spark could be the culprit...... don't give up, you will get it figured out.

  • hunter grimes
    hunter grimes 3 months ago +1

    I was kind of thinking the same thing as some other people. From what I could tell in the video it looks like the starter is not turning the prop over enough for it to start. It sure looked like it was trying to start though. I think you just need a bit more power to the starter and it will fire right up!

  • TC
    TC 3 months ago

    Your awesome and this channel. I personally feel you will get this started soon. looking forward for this engine to start..would also love to see rest of the plane cleanup process.

  • Wicked Gamer & Collector
    Wicked Gamer & Collector 3 months ago +35

    Awesome update.. and agreed sometimes just relax... and maybe you think about it what you missed out.
    Looking forward to the next video.
    I've been a moped mech for many years know how this feels... al excited and even all the fixing and cleaning it was not good enough.
    In the end you will figure out what it is.. waiting for the next episode 👍

    • Rebuild Rescue
      Rebuild Rescue  3 months ago

      I’ve always learned more from my failures than my victories…. And let me tell you I’ve been learning ! 😂🤣
      Thank you for watching the channel and dropping in to say hi ! We’ll get this old airplane running yet ! #401FOREVER

  • Chemical Orbit
    Chemical Orbit 3 months ago +1

    I can't wait for this to start, I hope you get it up and running soon. good luck

  • Jonzer Style
    Jonzer Style 3 months ago +2

    I've been glued to your videos. It's like a marathon to get this plane started. I love that you took up this challenge. Keep going a bit longer... It's worth it! If you start a go fund me I'll put in $100 dollars I see your heart is in it and I love the videos. When you showed the avionics package on board I bet that is where the offer came in from probably. The guy probably figures he can part out the avionics. I want you to win and I'll put money on it.

    • Rebuild Rescue
      Rebuild Rescue  3 months ago

      Thank you for dropping by and sharing your thoughts…. We’ll get this old bird fired up yet !

  • Steven
    Steven 3 months ago +1

    Please keep working on this! I'd love to see it fly again

  • RCA-in-Glasgow
    RCA-in-Glasgow 3 months ago +1

    I believe in you man! Gonna be SOOO satisfying when you make it happen!

  • Ian Glennon
    Ian Glennon 3 months ago +106

    I have never been so emotionally invested in a YT series before. I can't wait to see those props turning under their own power

    • oldschoolman 144
      oldschoolman 144 3 months ago

      A guy can go broke trying to get a plane back in the air, hopefully he has the common sense to know when to stop. His batteries seemed weak.

    • Mateus M. Côrtes
      Mateus M. Côrtes 3 months ago

      Same, best YT series ever!

    • Duncan Cardew
      Duncan Cardew 3 months ago +1

      @SegoMan hmmm. I think, if I remember correctly he already did that. Not sure though 😊

    • SegoMan
      SegoMan 3 months ago +3

      @Duncan Cardew I have not watched all the vids, I'm sure you shot some oil down the jugs when the plugs were out? No oil on the rings = low compression.

    • Duncan Cardew
      Duncan Cardew 3 months ago +2

      I was making all kinds of faces while he was turning the engine over, I was ready for it to fire, but nothing 😔 can't wait for the next vid

  • Dad's Simple Meals
    Dad's Simple Meals 3 months ago +1

    Keep going! Looks so close to starting! You can do it!

  • Máté Dávid
    Máté Dávid 3 months ago

    I love the project, you are doing a pretty great job out there! :) However just out of curiosity: how much time difference between recording an episode and uploading it? I mean when you are talking, it feels like ep3 was filmed the day before this one

  • dnantis
    dnantis 3 months ago +2

    Please DO NOT QUIT !!!
    We are here for you !
    I love the passion you have and i know this thing is gonna fire up !!!
    This is your airplane man !!!
    Blessings !!

  • bradley sherwood
    bradley sherwood 3 months ago

    Been watching for awhile and love this content. Keep up the great videos

  • Seonagh Jedlicka
    Seonagh Jedlicka 3 months ago +645

    Been really enjoying watching this. So kind to get us all involved can't wait for next video

    • trevor lyle
      trevor lyle 3 months ago +2

      You can do it

    • ME10920
      ME10920 3 months ago +1

      I don't know anything but why can you not remove the propellers so you can tinker about in safety?

    • Joseph Avino
      Joseph Avino 3 months ago

      @Anthony Caine we’ll have only another 10 part video series before he says “ the guy took it back, sorry guys “

    • Kent Wisco
      Kent Wisco 3 months ago +2

      @Terence O'connor The plugs were out.

    • Yeeehaw Grandmaw
      Yeeehaw Grandmaw 3 months ago +1

      @diGritz1 Haha! I see what you did there!

  • TurtleImpaler
    TurtleImpaler 3 months ago

    As an aviation enthusiast i've loved watching this series since i get to learn a bit about how planes work and general diagnostic. If yall were near maryland i would come out to help in a hear beat.

    • Rebuild Rescue
      Rebuild Rescue  3 months ago

      Glad you’re here with us on the channel 👍🏼

  • Chaser Malloy
    Chaser Malloy 3 months ago

    The FAA directive became pretty well official in 2005 but the hours on the Aircraft dictated what had to be done and how urgently. It would be interesting to know the hours on yours when you manage to find the logs. It was only craft with over 15,000 hours or something that required immediate action. The FAA had only one approved method of modification / bracing but suggested they would look at other designs from the owners' group. I don't know if any alternative method was ever proposed but your cost estimate is close to the estimated cost at the time.

  • Andrey Dunin
    Andrey Dunin 3 months ago

    This is definitely a labor of love for you, rooting for you to get this thing started every time brother!

  • eioshen boboi
    eioshen boboi 3 months ago

    meter to the cable at the starter and watch the voltage drop when you engage the starter. Thanks for the great content. You make us feel like part of the project.

  • trialspro
    trialspro 3 months ago +131

    The valves are probably stuck from sitting so long. Easy enough to pull a couple valve covers off to confirm. Leak down test would be smart too. Also, as mentioned, it doesnt seem to be turning over fast enough. Someone should have a ground power unit you can borrow rather than jump starting. Stick with trying to fix that engine, the other will be in very similar shape and you're so close with this one.
    AME-M here (Canadian aircraft maintenance license)

    • brifam
      brifam 3 months ago +1

      @trialspro Right as to low pay and high responsibility!!!

    • trialspro
      trialspro 3 months ago +3

      The valves would be stuck open, not closed. And the biggest problem is the missing logbooks, without those there is zero chance it will ever fly again. Even if they're found, there will likely be heavy corrosion from the water leaks, and the majority of mechanical components will be time expired or due for overhaul.
      Big big money plus all the labor. It would be cheapest to part it out, scrap the airframe and use that money for a deposit on something that is airworthy

    • Jay
      Jay 3 months ago

      I am an A & P of twenty years but almost all of my experience is flight line work on large turbines so take what I say with a grain of salt. I do know troubleshooting but I’d trust the guys familiar with working on these over me.

    • Jay
      Jay 3 months ago

      You’re right. I’m now pretty sure it’s the turbo system. If the turbo is frozen and the wastegate is jammed closed then the exhaust is significantly restricted. The wastegate of the turbo system is controlled by manifold and oil pressure and he did mention an oil pressure anomaly so that’s where I’d look next. My suggestion is to remove the turbo but I’m not certain if you can just remove it without rerouting oil lines or just disconnecting the exhaust manifold and intake manifold from it. It’ll run without the turbo if you take care to make sure oil still flows properly.

    • Rocke Tyler
      Rocke Tyler 3 months ago +1

      @Jay the valves stuck closed? Think about that. The push rods would be bent. Maybe stuck open.

  • Ryan
    Ryan 2 months ago

    I’m not even an airplane guy but I love this series! Keep it going I believe in you!!!

  • TheParasiteDk
    TheParasiteDk 3 months ago

    I happened upon the first episode a couple of days after it came out, and subscribed just so I can follow the process on the plane.
    Really looking forward to seeing it starting :)

  • John Morris
    John Morris 2 months ago

    Your awesome to watch so calm. I'm tend to throw wrenches and sockets when fine tuning a project. Keep up the great work and content.

  • Joss LeChasseur
    Joss LeChasseur 3 months ago

    Don’t give up! You will figure it out! I’m so psyched to see you get there!

  • Barrow Motorcycle Sales
    Barrow Motorcycle Sales 3 months ago +70

    Anyone else leaning forward and WILLING that engine to start, listening for even the slightest firing noise!? You can do it man, keep at it!!
    And yes, getting some rest always seems to wonders when working on stuff. 👍

  • David Timothy
    David Timothy 3 months ago

    You'll get there, brother! Keep the faith! Cheering for ya!

  • snufftownbum
    snufftownbum 3 months ago

    Man, I was hoping it would start. You’ll get there. Thanks for sharing.

  • Keno Lawrence
    Keno Lawrence 3 months ago

    Seeing what the engine and everything else would look like with ice blasting cleaned would be cool

  • P VH
    P VH 3 months ago

    Im sure, that with some of the advice given here, you'll figure it out and get it started. Keeping eye on your progress !!

  • Aaron Ermis
    Aaron Ermis 3 months ago +235

    Definitely an issue not getting enough juice to the starter.

    • xGhostx
      xGhostx 3 months ago

      @Aaron Ermis the only ones i saw start we´re antonovs thats why i thought they might all be slow :D Glad to learn something every day tho! Really cant wait for the next episode and hope he gets her started :)

    • Hzwo
      Hzwo 3 months ago +1

      @xGhostx ye i think so, they are slow sometimes..but this one really seems weak. it stops from time to time, it goes slow over the compression stroke, and thats where it should have some inertia to compress fast. And with these jumper cables thats no surprise, that indicates that it is engineered to spin much faster and stronger. It would maybe eventually fire like this...but the batteries have to be moved anyway...why not doing it now

    • Hzwo
      Hzwo 3 months ago

      @Christopher Coy whatever...any gauge and any length is reducing the voltage. and its clearly not spinning fast enough. It would maybe work if everything was perfectly adjusted, but that thing is maybe flooded or whatever, old and crusty, imperfect injectors, etcetc. it just needs to spin faster then it will start anyway

    • Aaron Ermis
      Aaron Ermis 3 months ago +1

      @xGhostx depends what you are referring to as “big prop”. If you mean turboprop they generally use air starters and spin quite a bit faster. Even most electric start I’ve seen spin better but with the condition of this airframe there’s no telling what else is going on. No oil pressure is a red flag. It has also been noted in the comments most starters are 28v and it appears he’s using two batteries in series so just guessing it’s two 12v so he’s a little low on voltage if that is the case. Either way I hope he gets it figured out.

    • rcpmac
      rcpmac 3 months ago +3

      @Hannable wow, you really don’t know what you are talking about

  • edmonds 360
    edmonds 360 3 months ago

    I was so hoping it started this time I have faith in you pal, the other engine gonna start for sure u got this 💯

  • David Lopez
    David Lopez Month ago

    you definitely deserve that bird my friend! You gave her so much love. Cant wait to see the end of this story! (but I could imagine it)

  • Creigiihton Denynis
    Creigiihton Denynis 3 months ago

    keep pushing forward! Great work!

  • jadesluv
    jadesluv 3 months ago

    I mentioned this before, acquire a automotive timing light as used on a distributor type engine, like autos in the 1960’s, with an inductive pickup this with verify plugs firing. Get a DMM and hook the probes close as possible to the starter and verify the crank voltage. Seems way under 24v as I watch the prop spin.

  • Dylan Scamara
    Dylan Scamara 3 months ago +155

    Whoever does your editing always does a fantastic job. I'm always so impressed with all of your videos. We definitely notice your guys' hard work on these.

    • Rebuild Rescue
      Rebuild Rescue  3 months ago +31

      Absolutely 100% thank you for noticing the hard work that goes into it !
      Thank you for watching 👍🏼

  • Gerő Dániel
    Gerő Dániel 3 months ago

    Just do it man! I do believe you can do it. Your effort is amazing. I think you are inspiring me! :D

  • George Vorster
    George Vorster 3 months ago +4

    Man, you've had me at the edge of my seat since you started with this. If I was close, I'd bring coffee and give you a hand to get her going. In my home language we say "Aanhouer wen", which basically means you'll achieve what you set out to do if you keep going at it. So, keep going, I'm holding thumbs here in South Africa !

    • Rebuild Rescue
      Rebuild Rescue  3 months ago

      Thank you for being here with us from South Africa George 👍🏼

  • Edward Notebaart
    Edward Notebaart 3 months ago

    Damn sweet plane! Keep the faith brother, I'm jealous as hell. I've had a pilot license since 1973 you go for it! I'm watching you try to start it now! Come on start! Wondering if part of your deal is you can't have any help? Keep going you will get it brother!

  • Anthony The Beard
    Anthony The Beard Month ago

    what an incredible video series. i love that you engage with the audience and you're interested in our ideas/thoughts/suggestions. keen to see this plane kick over in the next videos!

  • Dale Patterson
    Dale Patterson 3 months ago +69

    You absolutely must have a battery in good condition, one that's big enough to push a 520 cubic inch engine. If you are under voltage, or can't supply enough current, you CAN burn up a starter.

  • Gurture
    Gurture 3 months ago

    I'm so invested in this! Hope it all turns out well

  • Shawn Moten
    Shawn Moten 3 months ago

    You'll get the plane to start. It's awesome work you're doing.

  • Rift Valley
    Rift Valley 3 months ago

    This is not a RU-clip video but something I am always excited to watch. Please don't take too long between episodes. Thank you

  • byeckfella
    byeckfella 3 months ago

    Keep going dude….you’ve got this🙂👌

  • Longcat
    Longcat 3 months ago +81

    I’m so invested in this story, I think I’ll cry if I see this thing fly again 🥲 Best of luck, from a multi-engine flying instructor in the UK.

    • Rob Ryan
      Rob Ryan 3 months ago

      @RVA Guitars Sad but true.

    • RVA Guitars
      RVA Guitars 3 months ago +6

      You won’t. It’s a pipe dream. It’ll cost twice what that planes worth to make it airworthy

    • Bjørn Otto Vasbotten
      Bjørn Otto Vasbotten 3 months ago +2

      But actually flying the plane safely must be sooo much work though?

  • Amar Flylow
    Amar Flylow 3 months ago

    I feel very connected to your story, trying to save a Cessna 310 N here in France.
    I really wish you all the best and hope this wonder will be able to climb above the clouds.
    Don't give up.:) !

    • Rebuild Rescue
      Rebuild Rescue  3 months ago

      We won’t give up Amar ! Thank you for watching 👍🏼

  • Captain Daedalus
    Captain Daedalus 3 months ago

    Since it spun so much faster after you removed the plugs, you might want to check whether the exhaust is also clogged.

  • shani yan
    shani yan 3 months ago

    years know how this feels... al excited and even all the fixing and cleaning it was not good enough. In the end you will figure out what it is.. waiting for the next episode 👍

  • Martin Raps
    Martin Raps 3 months ago

    Keep going, we wanna see it starting!!!

  • Kabonster
    Kabonster 3 months ago +180

    I haven’t been this invested in/excited about someone’s project for a long time. You’re GONNA GET IT STARTED!!

    • FuckEbonics
      FuckEbonics 3 months ago +1

      But would you ever fly it once it did get started?

  • Darrell Brand
    Darrell Brand 3 months ago

    You Got this!!!
    Hopefully someone can donate some proper working batteries for this aircraft..

  • schrombomb
    schrombomb 3 months ago +1

    My wife and I grew up in the Chicagoland area, and now live in the Houston area. Taking this up to Chicago with the family for home trips would be much better than driving or taking commercial!

  • RiDeRz4LiFe
    RiDeRz4LiFe 3 months ago

    This has been an epic journey for you.. don't give up on it.. I have been wanting a project like this for a long time.. have the money just can't find the right one..

  • Markus Kahelin
    Markus Kahelin 3 months ago

    Great series, such an inspiration to see your dedication, many would have walked away from that project! Here is a cool tool to use for cleaning hard to reach areas, would work wonders on those engine and interior details. ru-clip.com/video/nRecS28vzWg/video.html

  • Manny
    Manny 3 months ago +52

    I honestly didn't realize how invested I was going to be at the start of this. MAN I hope you get this started!!!

    • Virginia Hunt
      Virginia Hunt 3 months ago

      Same

    • Pseudonayme 77
      Pseudonayme 77 3 months ago +1

      IKR?! I was devastated when he told us about the other offer the guy got last week! Can only imagine how he felt😮

  • Chris & Heather
    Chris & Heather 3 months ago

    Can't wait for episode 5 - dying to see this thing fire!!!

  • Ville U
    Ville U 3 months ago

    This is getting exciting. Got to get that beauty running.
    Did you check cylinder pressures? Could it be that aluminum dust was from valves and pressure doesn’t build up enough to lit aviation fuel?

  • George Luaces Jr.
    George Luaces Jr. 3 months ago

    Really enjoy watching your videos. G WW posted the start procedure for the 401. I really hope that helps you get it started! Don give up!!

  • Richard Keith
    Richard Keith 3 months ago

    Ready to see what happens this week!

  • Chris H. AP-IA
    Chris H. AP-IA 3 months ago +47

    Hey there, A&P/IA here. In my experience with Continental engines, you have to prime them, a lot, until you've got a good stream coming from the drain. Then I'd also recommend using a GPU in conjunction with the battery hook-up, to really give that extra bit of power to the starter, especially in cold weather.

    • John Schreiber
      John Schreiber 3 months ago +2

      Correct answer! A&P, IA here.

    • esandave
      esandave 3 months ago +2

      Yes your right as a A&P. IA I have had same experience
      This why I guy on the ground as fire guard
      Has to know hand signals to the man starting letting know what is going on thumb up and down for fuel running out of drains and has stop

    • dylpickle007
      dylpickle007 3 months ago +3

      Just commenting to bump this so he sees it

    • Adam Waggoner
      Adam Waggoner 3 months ago +3

      That’s what I’ve been thinking. I never see him priming and I would hook up a jumper to the wall.

  • mike s
    mike s 3 months ago

    Wow can't wait for Ep5 I can see this engine running soon. Good luck

  • Orley Powell
    Orley Powell 3 months ago

    Don't give up. I know you can do it. Love the project

  • Farrington Kramer
    Farrington Kramer 3 months ago

    I would love to see you get 1st engine to start keep up good work

  • Soezere
    Soezere 2 months ago

    Oh man, the way you make it so interactive is so bounding! Good work bro 👍👍👍

  • rfinsl
    rfinsl 3 months ago +109

    You need an engine test stand.. Control the variables by removing the engine and connect it to systems you can easily trouble shoot. If you isolate the engine and can prove that it runs correctly, you can start tracing back issues. Way too many variables to troubleshoot while attached. 1 chewed wire touching something metal causing a short could have you troubleshooting for months.

    • rfinsl
      rfinsl 3 months ago

      @WaynesWorkVlog this ain't a car. Airplanes are maintained to a higher standard and specs. I'm even looking past all those o-rings he just replaced to get it running. They all have that have to adhere to a specific spec and can't be just anything off the shelf else the fuel could eat them and send it all downstream. Ever chase fuel lines in dc3, dc4, t28?? 20 years around airplanes including 2 warbird restorations.

    • whalesong999
      whalesong999 3 months ago

      @cw93711 No doubt on that. I'm not sure what he might eventually arrange but had the idea that it was marketable to at least someone who could use the whole a/c for parts. Just getting a core fee for the engines would cover much of his expenses.

    • Elijah Kimble
      Elijah Kimble 3 months ago

      That would be the right way to do, but I think he is on somewhat of a time crunch. Would be cool to see that though.

    • rfinsl
      rfinsl 3 months ago

      @WaynesWorkVlog Time = Money.. With endless Money I could make anything that sat for a while run. And your still up against a 70K spar issue.

  • Youtube Vanced
    Youtube Vanced 3 months ago +1

    Your supposed to use a basket for your ultrasonic cleaner. They hang from the top so the thing being cleaned sits still while the cleaning fluid is vibrated.
    That difference is what causes the cleaning action as it causes the bubbles to form around the object you want cleaned.
    If you just drop things in, then they are also vibrated at the same frequency as the liquid and the cleaning action will be reduced.
    It can still clean because a solid object will still vibrate more slowly than the surrounding liquid.
    The point is you want the maximum effect, so use the basket that came with the cleaner.

  • patrix
    patrix 3 months ago

    What a great channel! Fingers crossed you get that engine running. Cheers from Sweden! :-)

    • patrix
      patrix 3 months ago

      @Rebuild RescueThank you for replying. You got a thing going my friend. I really enjoy your show and the actual (and not fake Netflix) drama. I also know you will get that magnificent old airplane engine running one day and before you know it you will have a staff of retired airplane mechanics that have watched your show willing to help out for free and that one day the airplane will be fit to fly :-)

    • Rebuild Rescue
      Rebuild Rescue  3 months ago +1

      Thank you for watching from Sweden !
      glad att hsve dig 👍🏼

  • Daryl Thomson
    Daryl Thomson 3 months ago

    Keep at it! Rooting for you!