Are Budget builds ACTUALLY worth it?

today's budget pc is yesterdays high end machine. So...

also, remember how intel changed the socket every year? So upgrade-ability was a non issue - at least for intel users?

Hey Jay
Is this motherboard is good even now
MSI P55-CD53
Thanks in Advanced ❤️❤️❤️

Yuo might wanna get your video ready for Cyberpunk 2077 is coming out in spring. Making a system that wouldn't cost a fortune and wouldn't make the game to look and play like shit.

Makes sense...

Ah, well you actually wd want all the CUDA cores you can get for DEEP machine learning PC training, so having 2 or 3 or more titan like GPUS the more powerful and faster the learning process would be.

My 1000 dollar budget computer that I am building is better than another person's 1500 dollar computer that he paid another person to build.

9:30 most decent monitors have 75 fps and they should i think... sadlie built my sys for 60ps for below 70 - .-
wouldnt ´´gö back´´ to 60 fps if i hadnt ^?^

make a vöödee ^?^
would like to test out an x6 phenom... be öff course... but the first computeräres are büying ebäy - .-
(> my ryzen X)

Why overclock at all? The last time I overclocked was when I really needed it (1996 with software Quake). Nowadays? Useless fluff. As if people can tell apart single-digit FPS changes...without an FPS counter

PC case is subjective, but not the power supply! That is a very crucial component and should have been mentioned.

Also, when buying an SSD, make absoluitely sure you're not buying cheap. Get a Single-Dual Layered Cell one, as these will be your backbone. Put the page file someplace else and such an SSD will last you for an eternity.

they work for most people becuase they play games that are 5 years old and the hardware even know its budget is more then antiquate to play older mmos and anything from 2013 to 2017 not every one has to be a overclocker super gamer :)

I want this cardboard box build!

In my opinion, you should always buy an SSD to run as at least a boot drive. 250GB is ideal so you can put some essential applications on it, but a 120GB is more than enough as a boot drive. It’s an extra $30-$40 but when you boot up the computer it feels like a $100+ difference.

Hey man nice video, can you build one for me? I will pay for your labor ...I never built any. I'm afraid of breaking or messing things up...I see you have lots of computer parts there. Do you guys build systems?

I thought ram does matter like the ryzen 2600/3600 works better at 3200 mhz.

Oops this video is 8 months old ooooooooops

I just spent 277$ on GSkill B-die ram, no regrets.

I'm on the "cheapest rig possible" right now. I would not advise it. Turn some tricks, sell some blood... get the cash for better parts. I just ordered a $300 X570 board today; my next rig is not going to be junk.

Ryzen 7 2700x $139
16gb + 8gb 3000mhz ram $75+$40
GTX 1070 used* $200
650w modular PSU $50
1tb Intel 660p NVME m.2 $82
Gigabyte b450m wifi Motherboard $70
Total= $656
Most of this bought on Black Friday/Cyber Monday! Can’t wait to build it!

What you said about the ram is just flat out WRONG! But i gess you know that since you tested it out a month ago.

I want to build the optimal budget computer to play WOW CLASSIC.
Not real worried about upgrading it .
What can you suggest or have you covered this in a vid you can reccomend?
Thanks! Great video!

The best budget build is a game console on Black Friday.

Yes. End video.

His name is 'twocents' after all

NEVER expect to get a low to mid-range CPU and "just the the fast one later". Likewise, going to SLI later usually isn't worth it. A few years down the road, the high end ones are still ridiculous, often more than a faster modern one. I just took my old Latitude from dual to Quad for $10 after reselling my old chip, but going for the top end of quads would have been $100+

So what about the i9 9900KS or Ryzen 3950X? Cause I'm at that crossroads now... Can't choose...

Summer I just build in the winter

Ive been building my computers since my second pc (after Atari died and i was forced to move to slower dos systems). Heres the trick to get a top end computer (eventually) cheap.
1. Get a decent Latest gen motherboard. Then buy the lowest end processor (or better) for that motherboard. And BUY USED. Youre not buying a car unless someone overheated the hell out of pc parts they'll last long after youve moved on.
Everything else buy used. Including RAM. The possible exceptions are storeage because it is dirt cheap. Also get a cheap tower or mid tower etc case. Get a big case. Spend $50. This nutty fad of spending a fortune on thin sheet steel boxes is fucking nuts. Things when selecting the motherboard : Ram slots, maximum ram, pci (gpu) slots.
Do that and you'll have a latest gen computer Cheap and as you get money you can upgrade to more/faster ram, GPU's, storeage etc. If i ordered my current system online it woud cost at Least 2k. Ive spent about a grand on it over the last year

We want to see a cardboard case!!!

power supplies buy the best you can afford
motherboard make sure you get good cooling and all the ports you will want
esp w amd save on the processor you can upgrade easily
graphics card match to cpu

he didn't talked about power supply, most of the time u don't need more than a 600w psu on a PC with just one graphics card.

Ryzen 5, rx 580, ssd, ddr4 ram. Major budget build for me.

I just bought a budget prebuilt with the a320m mobo... If I Flash the BIOS I can install 3rd gen ryzen chips on it... I have an R5 1400, 16 gb of DDR4 3000mhz Crucial Ballistix, RX570, 500gb SSD (I added my 1tb HDD & M.2 500gb drive to it) and 600w 80+ Gold psu for $489.00... I do not feel as if I got screwed... (I also don't care AT ALL about overclocking, so I don't care about the VRM's nearly as much, though I'd probably get some thermal pads and small heatsinks to apply myself to the VRM's if I were going to run anything on the ragged edge CPU wise on it...)

My new pc has a ryzen 5 3600 and a gtx 1660ti as well as 2x 8gb of ddr4 ram 3000mhz with a budget motherboard (b450 series). What do you guys think?
I kinda hope that the next Gen GPUs won't be pcie 4 only, or at least have pcie 3 versions of that gpu, that we or rather I can upgrade just the gpu and psu at some point.

It is now. I just built a $930 computer for $680. Black Friday Deals ROCK!!

You forgot psu's

It's not Ey-soos, it's Ah-soos. Don't believe me? Ask the manufacturer's themselves.

Right now, upgrading from HDD to SSD is the best optimization on a "price per pound" basis. Definitely using SSD these days 😍!

Thanks for the info very helpful

Don't cheap on motherboards trust me

A friend of mine clearly didn't watch this video, when he paired a 2700x with an x570 motherboard, an rx580 and 64gb of ram.... I've never facepalmed so hard in my life. Oh and this was purely for gaming btw...

Is the b450m pro4 a good choice? I’m putting in a ryzen 7 2700x

I have a i5 8600k and 32 gb 3000 MHz ram and a 1060 6gb would my bottle neck be my gpu or my cpu I’m playing go upgrading to a 2070 super and idk if I want to do that if I need to buy a new cpu

Gat

So, my Ryzen 5 2600 is overkill for my gtx 1660ti ? Îs there a bottleneck?

Will the AX370 mother board work good with I9 9900 CPU ?

Regarding "not seeing the difference" between 2400 cl19 and 3200 cl 15: On an AMD-System I'd guess you would see the difference quite easily. After an BIOS update my Ram once went back to default 2133 Mhz: It introduced VERY noticable frame drops and stutter in some games (especially badly optimized ones).
I'd understand the advice to not spend on silly "gamery" bling and expensive 3600+ RAM (since usually those ratings on the higher end are not much more than marketing, it is overclocking anyways ... so just get the cheapest b-die and just crank it up. Lower rated RAM usually just needs a bit more voltage and it is fine.), but the part about the frequency wasn't correct.
Really bad 2400 Mhz & lower RAM actually hurts your frametimes very much. Saving 10-20 bucks to risk getting an inconsistent stuttery experience on an otherwise decent budget PC wouldn't be very smart....

Nothing sucks more than listening to advise from someone who has no conception of what they're talking about.

I'm throwing a Ryzen 7 2700 in mine, but have no real want or need to overclock, so those kind of features on a MB, I could do without. Which is likely why my MB for my build in September next year is around $80.

SLI CROSS FIRE ?????

I built a custom liquid cooled PC to browse reddit and youtube. My bank account hates me, but atleast my PC is dead silent and it looks pretty.

I build my first pc in 2015. I got a motherboard with 3 gpu slots. I only ever use one. Learn my lesson.

I would source a free case from a pre-built someone is throwing away before I built in a cardboard box frfr

NVidia just makes sense for highend gaming xx70 or xx80 series.
Below that AMD just gives you a better bang for the buck.
Also I think it is a question what you want to do in the future.
High-end just makes sense if you plan to upgrade to high end again later.
Else midrange is better in my opinion because you are less committed to your build and can upgrade more frequently because you have a lower overall drop in value.
If you have a 1000 $ gpu and it breaks after warranty you lose 1000$ a 500 $ and less can't go down to minus 500 $ and more.
If you resell you parts a 1000 $ can drop to 500 $ but a 500 $ and less card won't go for free or below that.
That's why I hate those arguments like "I pay now but I am better off in the future".
Most of the time the top parts just have a prestige cost to it, they just don't cost more because of their performance value, a portion is also the price for bragging rights and the prestige that comes with it.
It becomes a status symbol like every other item.

Why would anyone with commonsense buy a Titan graphics card. This ive never understood

People justify consoles so yes why wouldn't budget builds be worth it

Im building my PC with a 300€ budget and the components are
ASrock B450M Pro4
AMD Ryzen 3 2200g
Corsair Vengeance 8GB Dual Kit 3000Mz
Be quiet 400 Watt system power 9
Toshiba 1Terrabyte storage
Intenso 240gb SSD
Hope i pronounced everything right😂

You Look Like The Oldest Young Man Ever 😂

Yeah If Your On A Budget 😆