Are Budget builds ACTUALLY worth it?

10:00 thank you. Finally someone that builds PC's on youtube that knows the marketing BS and "Fast RAM/Gaming RAM" is BS. Even Linus Tech Tips falls for this meme. Anyone that doesn't believe that "Fast RAM" doesn't do anything, test it this way: Go into your mobo settings, downclock your RAM frequency to 1066MHZ and 700MHZ and test out some games and check their frame rates. RAM frequency has nothing to do with Frame rates.

The reason higher frequency RAM got popular at one time was for locked CPU's in the overclocking community, Like the Xeon E5620- you could overclock locked CPU's with the right mobo (Like EVGA mobos) overclock the Front Side Bus on the MOBO and downclock the RAM frequency to get a stable OC. This was the only reason to want higher Frequency RAM.

To really test RAM, Create a Ram disk, install a game onto it (preferably one that has long load times) and test how long it takes for the levels to load. Your RAM in kind of like old cartridge games like on the NES or Super Nintendo- Remember how fast they loaded compared to CD games on the original playstation? The only difference is your computer writes large chunks of program into your RAM instead of it being read only like the ROMs of cartridge games. You want as much RAM as possible because some games you can allocate as much RAM as you want for a game to use (like Minecraft).

RAM on video cards, same thing- Frequency doesn't matter, unless you are overclocking your GPU. You want more Gigabytes, that is the most important number to look for when buying, because the newer games are allowing you to allocate as much GPU RAM as you want for better looking textures/graphics in the options menus.

wew sub since 300k now at 2m,,,good jobbb J2C

Hey, would anybody like to donate to me in order to save up for of a PC? I haven’t been able to save up because of university tuition. Cash app is $johnnferrer , thanks in advance to whoever does :)

Two things I never skimp on: motherboard and PSU. Both are a pain in the ass to remove (depending on the chassis) and efficiency is better when PSUs aren't stretched to their top load. If you don't skimp on those 2 items (assuming you pick the right socket), you needn't upgrade for a long time. I'm on a 1st Gen Ryzen 1600X.... I'll drop in a Gen 3/4/5/6/7/8 whatever comes last for however long AM4 is around. :)

Short answer: yes
Long answer: yessssss

Jay i looked at the monitor and you said affordable...... AFFORDABLE! $550 PLUS TAX!

Im going for a gtx 1660 + i5 9400f 700$ build!

Buy it nice or buy it twice.

my country is dying so their is nothing as Budget first one dollar was 100 rs now it is Double = 200 Rs

buy cheap but upgradeable

Some good points there. Definitely get an SSD at least for the OS but with the low prices these days, you could get an additional one for you games drive. It makes a huge difference in load times. Also, nice to have OS and Games on separate drives, improves performance. Just make sure to check reviews on the SSD, things like Read/Write speeds are important but so to are the IOPS etc.

well im using a Cardboard box pc case like over 7 month...and everything is fine...i did that for people to laugh when they see it...i mean everytime it's fun..even my parents laugh when they see im using that pc...😂😂🤣🤣🤣

The water in my aio sorta evaporated now im running on stock intel cooler. No, there are no leaks in my tubing apparanlty it happens to 3+ yr old aios. What do i do now with that aio, its collecting dust now?

Parts list? I know the point of the video is to teach future proofing but I am building for a friend for a very basic use system and would love to get these parts

CAN U PLEASE HELP, I hav an old labtop(1525 inspiron HP laptop) is there any way I can make it so I can do video editing, my gopro vidoes are chopy or it just freezes, HELP!!!

Built a pc for around 786 euros in total, its a total beast

I’m building a computer for using video editing software. Stock computers are trash for rendering (20 min video = 10 hour rendering) it’s annoying, What would be the best options for building a case for a cinematographer?

Is this a good overall system?
Ryzen 5 2600
Msi b450 tomohawk
Lpx venegance 2*8 16 GB 3000
Kingston A400 240GB
Deepcool tesseract SW atx mid tower
Evga BT 500 W 80+ bronze
Power color Radeon RX 570 4GB Red Dragon

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I want to see a video for a dirt cheap HTPC capable of playing 4k content to a TV without any bells and whistles and using integrated graphics rather than a GPU. Like, the absolute bare minimum cost and specs for a living room computer to just stream on, without having to buy used parts. (Specifically, looking for the right processor to do this)

Dude I’m ordered my pc that coasted me 600$ last year near summer and I got a AMD Athlon x4 950, GTX 1050, Msi A320 Mobo, 2x4 Hyperx Fury, 550W corsair power supply, and a Corsair Carbide 100R. And literally I’m not even kidding THE day after I ordered it, the would change what people should get if they bought the pack and they would get a GTX 1050Ti and an AMD Ryzen 3. And cuz I ordered before the changed I got the crappy stuff.

That statement about not noticing DRAM speeds really opened my eyes. I wasted money :(

Depends on your "Needs"

You really sound like you're mentoring your viewers. you sound like you care :)

PC's are an investment and you need to treat them as such. Spend just a little more for something that will last longer is much advised.

1156??? that's a little too old to support a 8700k.... 1165 is a gen 1 i7-880 or 1151 gen 6/7/8/9 depending on chipset

Disagree about cheapest mobos for ryzen. You can get cheapest mobo and ryzen 1200, 1400, 1600, 2400g or even 2600. Those mobos are very suitable for those chips from AMD. Every single one cheap mobo can deal with 6 core ryzen. Cuz that boi needs only 65 watts which even the cheapest mobo can provide.
The thing is yes you can OC ryzen but overclocking is miserable compared to Intel overclocking. You'll get 200 or 300 mhz boost if you're lucky (on those chips which were mentioned above). And the most funny thing is you can overclock the cheapest RAM on the cheapest b450 mobo and you'll get 3200 mhz easily. And you can overclock non X ryzen with the cheapest mobo to those 200 or 300 mhz easily as well. Why would you pay more for what you don't really need?

When it comes to RAM speed and Ryzen, how important is it to have 3200+? Will you notice a significant difference between 2400, 2666 or 3000 mhz?

Affordable price my ass on that VAST monitor. It cost $550. I could get a 2070 for that much.

Budget build should always try to keep some potential in areas that last. Get a decent 650w psu, get a somewhat current MB, and go with AMD. Cheap out on parts fluctuate in price if they are on a high point. Now is a good time for pretty much everything except for cpu/GPU if ryzen 2/navi is a huge success.

I hate having to wait for the next gen middle range video cards.

I'm new to pc builds so I need this question answered. Is a Ryzen 3 2200G a good combo with the RX 560?

If I only had a budget. Really wish I could upgrade but as a full time college student working minimal hours forces me to live paycheck to paycheck not to mention I fried my desktop recently. Even though it had an athlon II x4 with a Sapphire 5870 eyefinity 6 2GB it still did everything I needed it to. Now I am sadly stuck with my ROG G74SX.

No they're not worth it you gotta spend the big bucks to have a pc master race worthy pc!

Best advice regarding budget builds... Thanks mate

I have a 2080 why am i here

Are you able to take out your cpu of your laptop because it is a i7 and i do not want to spend another 150€ on a cpu

Hej Jay i have a budget of 2000 dollar but i dont now what to buy Can you help me
By the way i love your Chanel

I have a budget build laptop if that counts 😂

The problem with going single stick is actually finding a compatible sticks years down the line... i really dont know if compatibility is that finnicky.

I built a mid range PC 2 years ago and it’s been great!
6600k @ 4.5Ghz
RX 480 8GB
16GB RAM oc’d to 3333 MHz
3 SSDs
I can run any game on high (1080P) and be pushing 75 fps easy. Won’t be upgrading my system for hopefully another 3-4 years.
My only regrets: buying a 1000w PSU and a motherboard that supports Crossfire (thinking I would do crossfire RX 480s one day)
I should have just bought a smaller PSU and a single GPU board and gotten a GTX 1070 with the extra money instead. I’m still really happy with my RX 480 though! My in laws have GTX 1080Tis and I can keep up with them in games just fine.. they spent more on graphics than my entire setup costed me

Is a Rtx 570 8 gb old technology??

Yes but no

You should cover audio (DAW) and video production (NLE, VFX, and color grading) systems and peripherals-the technology, the set up, and building.
Reach out to manufacturers (Blackmagic, Elgato, Flanders Scientific, Dell for their UP series) and industry bloggers and professional system builders (Puget Systems, Wolfcrow, who has an amazing and criminally small film and tech channel, or a big timer like Rick Beato).
There’s either lack of exposure for people who cover this niche interest that nevertheless undergirds one of the biggest multimedia platforms out there (youtube, soundcloud), or hardly any coverage outside of forums filled with opinionated dudes.
You can help out small channels that cover something related to yours, without stepping on each other toes, elevate the quality of amateur and low budget producers, and learn more for yourself about cool A/V gear, like Blackmagic Smartscopes or whatever

Slow down a bit then you will be more articulate. Its annoying when you not on point.

So is it worth spending graduation money on new PC parts? I'm graduating May 17th and going to college in the fall, getting some scholarships.
EDIT: Here's what I wanna do but I'm not too sure if it's a good thing to do. forums.tomshardware.com/threads/ideas-for-upgrade.3479958/#post-21032642

Man, I got this... (cashes in 401k)

Hello Jay I did you os cloning tutorial with acronus today but all I'm getting Is a black screen with flickering mouse after the widows logo. Am I missing something?

Smarter and more intelligent at the same time... 🤯🤯🤯

What is this graduation money you speak of?

I know ur joking but I really want that cardboard pc build guide now.

I went the budget route 2 years ago and I feel content with my decisions
Ryzen 5 1600 3.2ghz OC 3,8ghz
Gigabyte AB350M Gaming 3 failed under warranty replaced with MSI B450M Mortar
Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 8gb 2400mhz CL14 OC 2666Mhz CL14
Thermaltake Smart RGB 80plus 600W PSU
GTX 1060 6gb dual fan OC +200mhz core, +500mhz memory
Kingston 240gb UV400 SSD
Thermaltake Versa N25 tower with 4 case fans (one stock, one blue led from my previous rig and 2 new xellence blue led)
= It was under 1000$ at the time and most games run on high to ultra high
It's a nicely packed budget rig but soon I'll need to get more RAM, thankfully the LPXs arent expensive anymore so I'll probably get 8 more gigs very soon.

Make a card board box build with a $750 budget!

Then there’s me with a $70 budget

In my opinion budget builds are the best and most exciting as you are relying on your knowledge and creativity to eek out every last bit of performance rather than how much you spend

If I'd build a PC with a Ryzen 5 2600x and RTX 2070, would you recommend the MSI Tomahawk B450? And what about the RAM? I know I will get 16GB but should I get 2400? Or 3000? I was actually planning on using 3200 G Skill Ram until now but now I am questioning that. Please give me advice :/

Naw, once you dealt with power and overclocking having good quality parts you cant go back lol

If I get it right, if i don't want to overclock my ryzen 5 2600, I'm fine with A320 motherboard?

Go big or go home. Plus you don't have to always worry about upgrading. More worth going big for the long term investment.

Best budget gaming laptops please!

i5-8600K for a primarily programming build, paired with a GT 1030 for gaming? Does this even make sense?

Bad advice on ram for ryzen. 2400mhz cas19 will definitely be a decent amount slower than 3200mhz cas15. What you should have said is 3000mhz cas 16 is the best bang for the buck and won’t cost more than a few dollars more than 2400mhz.

Doing my first build this summer, this really helps.

Something else worth noting for folks trying to get the most out of their money: Look for last-gen stuff used and look for comparisons to current stuff. For instance, GTX 1080's are going for around $350-400 now, making it aroung $100 cheaper than a new, slightly faster 2070. It doesn't always make sense to grab a used part, but you ought to when it does. Also, storage is like butter. Never buy used butter.

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"Smarter and more intelligent"

Custom water cooled cardboard case?

Hello whats the best on site for buying the part?

This guy has a shelf of rtx’s like WOW

11:35 Going to add from my experience(which is not a lot but still), storage matters. I have an old-ish(2014) 5400rpm WD Green hard drive and it struggles to play demanding games such as GTA 5, Squad, etc, and it usually bottlenecks them, causing stuttering. After I got my SSD and migrated my OS to it, I have noticed that the HDD causes fewer bottlenecks in my system.
It also doesn't help that my 8gb of ram usually gets maxed out in the said games. Due to the game having to write to page file, it is important to have a decent storage drive.
tl;dr get a decent HDD that can write fast enough, if you don't have more than 8gb or RAM, having a decent storage drive helps a lot, at least in my case.

If Jay must build a cardboard box computer use this as a "I agree" button

My first build was in a cardboard box 18 years ago.

How is the x370 gameing x bord for ryzen from asrock

My PC is technically "Budget", I got a Pentium G4620 and a good motherboard (this was before we discovered that any processors post-Kaby Lake won't work on it) with a 1050Ti, and I have an upgrade path all the way to a 7700K (that will likely be cheap by the time I upgrade). That's my argument for budget builds: Cheap upgradeability down the road

I would say don't ever get a hard drive at this point. You can get a 1 TB M.2 SSD for just over a hundred bucks. There's just no longer any point in buying a hard drive or even a sata SSD at this point. M2 also has the advantage that you can get a smaller case to put everything in since you don't need a rack for hard drives.
If you need multiple TB of memory for long term storage, consider just using an external hard drive instead.

I would really, really like to buy a used Fractal Design ARC XL. If it's in almost new condition, I could part with $180, seriously; it's complicated :) Returns, refurbished, slightly damaged (scratched), will do too.

No, because it still runs Windows.

Step 1: EBay/Craigslist
Step 2: Upgrade Prossoceor and Graphics Card
Step 3: Done

what will be the best budget graphic cards for i5 8500 and motherboard gigabyte z370 d3h

That gigabyte ax370 gaming 5 you used for showcasing purpose is absolutely trash. bios problems. Error 15 and so ob

I like those comments coming from background

Could You do a build for virtualzation for computer build I don't like to game that much I love running VM's & would like to build a Machine that would work for me. Looking for a cheap rout. Thanks :)

THERE IS ALOT UNUSED PC




better for me...

i swear people have no clue how to cost effectively build a budget computer. get a dell optiplex 790 (with i7-2600, 16 gb ram, 1.5 tb hdd and win 10 pro) for 150 (CAD), ssd for 45, gtx 1060 6gb for 120, and new power supply for like 70. you can play pretty much anything. you could have your computer, peripherals and a few games for under 400 CAD which is only 300 USD.

If I did go for the ax370 will the i5 just drop in and not have any problems. About to attempt my first build and scared it won’t be compatible or ill fuck it up somehow 😂

If you on the budget with ryzen apus don't save on ram and don't buy single chanel memory. This will crush the performance of apu.
Second, when it comes on longevity of motherboard, intel doesn't matter, buy whatever will run your chosen processor.
AMD check vrm if it has headroom for more power in the future AND don't go budget motherboards, those tend to be dropped or be at the dead end when it comes for bios update, thus support for new processors. Flagship gaming series is must have now days.
Don't buy 590, not worth the premium over 580.
Ssd is a must in every system. Buy 64 gig for system only, thoseare dirtcheap.

answer too the title without me watching the video: yes

SSD is a necessity, GET ONE and install your OS on it, even if it's the cheapest you can find.

Recommending single channel config is a fuck no in any build.

A fantastic video!

You just saved my 1000 USD . Thank you ! I was about to buy 1080Ti with an I3 (8th gen ) . Now I will go for i5(9,the gen ) and 1660 . Seems more balanced .

Jay, you forgot the power supply , people often pick the lowest power supply with the highest Watts and thier system dies very quick

Really wish I had this advice before I bought a FX 8370 three years ago. I started with the cheapest motherboard possible, but a decent air cooler, 390X, and very nice RAM. The shortcomings of the processor have never ceased to be a pain in my ass, and I've spent a lot trying to make it work and I could have had a much nicer system for my money.

Where can i find that video for the one who uses 2 rtx titan? Can somebody give me the link?

Amd = invest in mb for future and profit
intel = build around cpu and get a mb that fits your need because next gen chipset inst gonna work anyway

awesome video

Thank you for telling all of that, and now I have decided to go for a 25k-30k ($500-$600) Php so I dont need to upgrade too much.

When I was young and broke I had my 2nd PC built into a cardboard box that I used as a HTPC in my living room....good times.

I've been trying to find info on how to get a custom boot up sound on a PC similar to how am xbox chimes when you turn it on. I saw you mention to Terry Crews that you could make it say "POWER!" when he pushes the power button, and it sparked my imagination big time.

Hey Jay, you forgot to do PSU. Some people will always buy the bottom of the barrel and end up frying their systems