Why Radeon VII Is MASSIVELY Disappointing.

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  • UFD Tech
    UFD Tech  6 months ago +191

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    Couple of things that I forgot to mention.
    1) If AMD can drop the VRAM to 8GB & give us a price of $499-599 then I would be all over this. Would be a great value at that point & AMD needs to compete on value in order to win market & mind share.
    2) AIB models of the card have been confirmed to be "coming" at some point. Keep in mind what happened with Vega that we had to wait 3-6 months to get AIB partner cards, and that could happen here too (although not likely).
    3) I'm a: Nvidia shill, Intel shill, AMD shill, Apple shill, Playstation shill, and Linus shill. All in one.

    • zen strata
      zen strata 5 months ago

      i'm getting it because I game on a very big monitor, and the memory will help and future proof with the higher resolutions.
      (also nvidia doesn't properly support freesync unless you are running windows 10, and I don't run windows 10.)

    • yinan wang
      yinan wang 5 months ago

      linus knows that?

    • henrik sigurdsson
      henrik sigurdsson 6 months ago

      if navida can drop the price from 800-2500 to same price as amd ppl can buy it to!

    • Stalker 90
      Stalker 90 6 months ago

      UFD Tech You discusting shameless nvidia shill 🤮🤨🤢 sha me on you really discusting

    • xX Xx
      xX Xx 6 months ago

      Idk I'm buying it because of the 16 gigs... I max out my 8 gig card all the time in games and CNC/3D printing applications. So for me this card seems worth it.

  • Landon Parks
    Landon Parks Month ago

    Depends on your needs... For content creators using Davinci Resolve, the Radeon VII actually scored +1 point above the 2080 ti in Puget Systems own testing... So while that is not a 'good' gaming benchmark, it could be a good option for someone who has a dual-use computer as a workstation, and who is looking for GREAT creative potential along with really good or comparable gaming performance.
    Not a great card if all you're doing is playing CS:GO, so but certainly not a disappointment across the board.

  • Zpad
    Zpad 3 months ago

    Nice rgb lights behind you. Is that the "sun" model?

  • Kashif Riley
    Kashif Riley 3 months ago

    I am a 3D artist and focusing on VFX and creatures, and while the Radeon VII boasts those specs, my current knocks about are the steep power requirements (300w is a LOT to run a GPU), and the fact that the coolers are NOISY! I've built PCs with Nvidia cards in the past and my system was VIRTUALLY SILENT... and I also use Unity, Substance Painter, and Modo and the RTX 2070, even though it has less VRAM, is more energy efficient. RTX and DLSS still to mature and more games to adopt them. And for 500 US, I would rather get a card that has greater support...

  • Hogan4079
    Hogan4079 4 months ago

    RTX 11 GB V-Ram 1400 € No Games Vs. RADEON VII 16 GB V-Ram 800 € + 3 Brand New xxx Games = RADEON VII

  • The One True Lenny
    The One True Lenny 5 months ago

    942 AMD-hype-trainers disliked this video because their hype train crashed into reality.

  • maliogrod
    maliogrod 5 months ago

    i think if u want one, buy one. If not, buy another, buy for your needs, for FHD you are fine with other cards, for 4k 60 buy nvidia.

  • Ryuuken24
    Ryuuken24 5 months ago

    Yeah, even if this video is old it hit todays benchmarks and prices right on the head, the RTX2080 is 700 dollars. Radeon 7 is just not worth it, no ray tracing, no good.

  • SMaze17
    SMaze17 5 months ago +1

    I think now we know why AMD didn't provide you with an R7 for review LOL.

  • Scrublord
    Scrublord 5 months ago

    Someone did not get a review copy.

  • Scrublord
    Scrublord 5 months ago

    You can almost hear him crying.

  • Those Who Slay Together Stay Together

    I'd have picked up the Vega64 if they had decent AIB models. All the decent ones are $650+ and all that's available is the shitty and hot blower cards.

  • blarghts
    blarghts 5 months ago

    The value proposition compared to a 2080 relies on the current implementation of real time ray tracing being super horrible (in the one game working with it) and DLLS fixing the flickering effects it creates. The 2080 already trades blows in some 4k titles with the 1080ti (clear winner here when purchased used) due to its 8gb of memory so unless those two features improve (in rtx's case drasitaclly you dont buy a 700-1000 dollar card to run in games in 1080) to me it looks like a dead heat for these two.

  • Grey Fox
    Grey Fox 5 months ago

    Love amd but 2070 or 2080 best options at the moment unless you want 1080p. 1080ti great but went up since rtx launch.

  • clayton royston
    clayton royston 5 months ago

    Nvidia did sweat they're pans off just to c vega Vll compete with rtx 2080

  • John Tam
    John Tam 5 months ago

    thanks god you have a gimbal.

  • CamperSeven
    CamperSeven 5 months ago

    Why 16GB? 8GB is way enough for most of gaming today. What I'm gonna do with the extra 8GB HBM2 memory? It is just a waste to pay 699$ for this.

  • m80
    m80 5 months ago

    1080ti 400-500 bucks? In aus it costs around 1100-1500! Where is it so cheap?
    Edit: oh wait...

  • hiddenfromyourview
    hiddenfromyourview 5 months ago

    You can't make an argument against AMD concerning 8K when NVIDIA built in 8K encoding with NVENC.

  • Grass hair
    Grass hair 5 months ago

    I know it is an unpopular card but I am happy with my Vega64 for now it runs everything great especially my 3d apps even most games in 4k. I think I will wait %^&* Nvidia I have put up with their bul^*& for too many years now. If I could afford it the new Vega card it would be great for production and games with that extra 8gb and by the time raytracing is properly implemented into games it will be standard on all cards.

  • Glorious 60fps
    Glorious 60fps 5 months ago

    You just got yourself a new sub for being so honest and you are the only one with the balls of saying the truth. Loved you video. Liked and Subscribed.

  • Glorious 60fps
    Glorious 60fps 5 months ago

    Awee look, Brainless Ignorant AMD fanboys disliking the video🤣

  • sik3xploit
    sik3xploit 5 months ago

    I'm making a non-budget computer. Long lasting high quality parts. If AMD can't really come out with a decent GPU this year I might just bite the bullet and buy a $1300 to $1500 1080Ti. But I am going to wait for the Navi and see how it performs. Even if it's quality is slightly lower than the 1080Ti, a sufficiently performing Navi with a much lower price will make me buy it. Not only that but I will be waiting to see how the Ryzen 3k turns out. My new computer will make me look like an AMD fanboy if the Ryzen 3k comes out good.

  • Suad Memo
    Suad Memo 5 months ago +1

    Farmer Boy talks about not yet released nor benchmarked GPU, nice^^

  • Scrotum Monster
    Scrotum Monster 5 months ago

    There was mention of the Radeon VII being 35% better performance than the Vega 64. That puts it on par with the 1080 Ti for 3/4 the price and able to utilize cheap Freesync rather than expensive G-sync.

  • Bush Bro's
    Bush Bro's 6 months ago

    People judged this card way to quick wait for the release and watch a actual test

  • Mohamed El Shazly
    Mohamed El Shazly 6 months ago

    agree with you, but i think AMD has another card up their sleeve that will knock down the VII down a couple hundred dollars.
    VII has 60 CU (leaves room for 64) and 3850ish stream processors (leaves room for 4096+)
    Also that croc ^^

  • Adam Saylor
    Adam Saylor 6 months ago

    I would put money on this only being a limited release and AMD is using the leftover stacks of HBM from the instinct cards. This is only to push out their existing parts stock so they can get that money behind the mass fabrication of Navi chips and boards. Everything AMD does is to try to push out stock to fund their next project. I can't really fault them for that, they don't have the stockpiles of funds that Intel and Nvidia have to throw at fabrication.

  • DuncanEscNJ
    DuncanEscNJ 6 months ago

    I'm excited about it. As someone who games casually (I have a 4k 60 monitor and have to lower the res or settings A LOT with my gtx 760) and who wants to get into more compute oriented tasks like Blender, graphic design, videos or game dev etc. that 16 gb of HBM2 looks glorious, and the card would be a good middle ground in gaming close to top tier graphics wise as well as offering near enterprise level compute power... maybe not for the avg gamer, or content creator. But it's a nice middle ground and I fux with it heavy

  • Quetzalcoalt
    Quetzalcoalt 6 months ago

    I would rather support the ray tracing, because i want ray tracing to be in every game, and to get more and more optimized. This is of gaming point of view.
    For compute, that 16gb HBM 2 for 700$ is a no brainer.
    But i aint giving any money for a new GPU because i already have a 1080 (with destiny 2 and everspace 530$👌 ), and my other hardware is ancient at this point. I need to upgrade the other parts first, and maybe, till that time comes RTX 3080 will be out or AMD will have something competitive!
    AMD has to dominate the console market! I'm just sad that no competition leads to monopoly.
    I can't imagin a world where where we have 4-5 CPU makers and 4-5 GPU makers.

  • Horatio yen
    Horatio yen 6 months ago

    i have been waiting since the mining boom for a good deal on a graphics card but stuff like this just keeps happening

  • Quetzalcoalt
    Quetzalcoalt 6 months ago

    864 fanboys heard the truth.

  • FlyingPenguins
    FlyingPenguins 6 months ago

    Can't believe I'm saying this, but just go with the 2080.

  • Sir Real
    Sir Real 6 months ago

    I'm excited to get this card as a moderate gaming upgrade to my current 1080 and a major upgrade for Blender and Davinci.

  • BARBATO Cedric
    BARBATO Cedric 6 months ago

    A 12Gb (750Gb/s) would be better than 8Gb (512 Gb/s is not enought) or 16Gb (1Tb/s is overkill) for gaming alone.

  • Möebius 2k
    Möebius 2k 6 months ago

    Is this video 'Assassin's Creed: Odyssey' IRL

    GAMING ON TV 6 months ago

    why you always hate amd . not problem when you accept the truth

    PAPA ROMEO 6 months ago

    At the same price they actually make people buy "RTX" or... maybe not

  • Septian Ernanto
    Septian Ernanto 6 months ago

    and they use the cooler design from HD7990 and paint it grey

  • simon gentry
    simon gentry 6 months ago

    i do like amd is at least up to bat again - keep nvidia honest perhaps.

  • Mikaël
    Mikaël 6 months ago

    16gb of vram is super useful for creators ! My rtx 2080 ti is already at full vram . Not sure everyone is getting the point of what this card can do.

  • Bob Dole
    Bob Dole 6 months ago

    16gb video card is not pointless. Been watching videos on gaming with maxed out settings that require 12gb or physical memory or more. Amd knows where the future is as far as where home consoles are going and from what I have seen where some games are as far as resources. This card is ment for people wanting the best and that want a card that is future proof. This card matching a 2080ti with double the memory to me is a win. If I was picking between this card or the other, i would get the Vii.

  • Diglo1
    Diglo1 6 months ago

    What we know about Vega VII and it's performance, yes it might be AMD's GTX 1080ti, but so is Nvidia's RTX 2080. Ray-tracing and DLSS are both just concepts and next to no games use them and even their image quality bumps are not really impressive and not affecting gaming experience. What is impressive is the performance penalty which is too much for the most users buying these GPUs with the price tag they have.
    RTX 2080 equals to GTX 1080ti in rasterized games and now it seems that Vega VII does the same thing. The only real differences are that Vega VII has cheaper free synch and RTX 2080 has lower TDP. The real performance is pretty much equal and now we finally have options in high end. There are a lot people appealing to Vega VII because of Nvidia's shady business practices and that tells you a lot about current market situations.
    AMD responded when they could with pretty equal product at the same price. May I ask if raytracing and DLSS ATM do not matter what so ever, what gives Nvidia the privilege to cost more?
    As it stands, people rarely make buying decisions based on performance/$, it's the branding that matters.
    If people actually knew anything about what to buy then RX 570 would rocket the steam surveys. It's on average +40% faster then 1050ti in and beats it in every game tested while costing the same or less.
    People simply do not care and anything that AMD does won't make a difference. Right now it's up to Nvidia to screw up so that AMD gains it's deserved appeal and looks like Jen-Hsun Huang is doing pretty good job.

  • jsorro
    jsorro 6 months ago +1


  • Mathews Motta
    Mathews Motta 6 months ago

    Not to forget that AMD and NVIDIA prices highly varies per region in the planet. In some regions for some reason AMD is cheaper, other regions NVIDIA is cheaper. Simple as that. Having both RTX 2080 and VII at the same base price means that there's option in the high end scenario for some people, and they are not forced to stick with the more expensive NVIDIA because "there's no other option".

  • giantmonkey101
    giantmonkey101 6 months ago

    man i'm buying the Radeon VII just for that memory.....RTX 2080 doesnt even qualilty for The Division 2 ELiTE specs lmao..............and its only going to get even worse for 8GB users.

  • Pauly the Drop Bear.
    Pauly the Drop Bear. 6 months ago

    I really like that you are walking in the South African wilderness as you are talking. Showing the beauty of your Country. It things like this that set good U tubers apart from the boring ones.

  • Joshua Scholar
    Joshua Scholar 6 months ago

    You know you can do the same as tensor cores with just straight shaders. Maybe you want them for other things, but they can do it.

  • Joshua Scholar
    Joshua Scholar 6 months ago

    It's obvious that navi just isn't ready, so rather than showing off NOTHING at CES they showed what they have ready to go at the moment, an enhanced Vega Frontier. It's a content creator card.

  • Tyrian2k
    Tyrian2k 6 months ago

    Idk, seems like both opencl (productivity) and vulkan (gaming) radeon vega II may make a lot of sense, more than rtx 2080, but dx12 is another thing, and, at least with opengl, devs seemed to like directx more (apart from the fact that microsoft give incentives to use directx), I think because of documentation among other reasons.

  • Nakia Grider
    Nakia Grider 6 months ago

    Totally disagree... nothing wrong with the price! Only two mainstream games that I know of use ray tracing and mentioning DLSS is a crap argument too. I think Nvidia is in trouble. If this card does better than 2080 or is matching it... I say biased review!

  • pino de vogel
    pino de vogel 6 months ago

    Or you just pick up a gtx as its still way better and cheaper in the long run as vega powerhungrymonsters.
    And at 499 thats still expencive. Prices need to come down they have gone insane. I cant wait for consoles to have full kb and mouse support in all titles as pc gaming hardware has gotten rediculously expencive.

  • Bob Anderson
    Bob Anderson 6 months ago

    The only thing disappointing about R7 is the price, AMD should have come right out of the gate with a $575.00 price tag.

  • John Terpack
    John Terpack 6 months ago

    I'm not disappointed. I'm not blown away. But I also use my computer for more than games and email. That extra memory and compute power trumps ray tracing for me. Don't know that I can swing that price though. So I might end up with Vega 64.

  • Scala
    Scala 6 months ago

    So what i'm hearing is that AMD is pulling an Nvidia. Release an overpriced underwhelming card to encourage consumers to buy up excess chip stock so when their true "new chip/card" comes out it has clear channels to fill. Good, Good AMD let the hate for consumers flow through you. You will dominate your competitor by turning the dark side against them.

  • Novacane
    Novacane 6 months ago

    RE2 will need more than 8gb of vram if you want maxed settings

  • András Agócs
    András Agócs 6 months ago

    I have been trying to build a gaming pc since September 2016 and been waiting for a reasonably priced freesync-capable card ever since (I refuse to pay the gsync-tax). I have given up, bought an xbox one x for 380£ on Black Friday. If I were to buy a ps4 back on that damned autumn in 2016, by now I would have played much more, have a huge game library, and on top on that save a truckload of money. I don’t think I can justify the cost a gaming pc costs anymore.

  • fdjw88
    fdjw88 6 months ago

    what is the name of this city? it looks beautiful! i have never been to South Africa, I didn't know it's such a beautiful country.

  • Whoooosaaah
    Whoooosaaah 6 months ago

    I was hoping better news from AMD. I want to upgrade my 1060 for when Division 2/Anthem come out. Now i don't even know what to buy lol. Vega 64 LC $500 and I can't find a 1080 ti for less than $800 so i'm in a pickle of what to get?!?!?! Should of bought stuff during Nov =(

  • Double Owe Seven Z
    Double Owe Seven Z 6 months ago

    Having a powerful single gpu is the way to go but not at CX and SLi pricing as like buying two cards as one = what Nvidia is asking for a 2080RTX = $399 at best on release day

  • Paul Urban
    Paul Urban 6 months ago

    Groenkloof 😀

  • Gitipoom Reangpo
    Gitipoom Reangpo 6 months ago

    Summary is this. Amd concept is all about performance and value. It is what amd is able to compete with intel in the market so far. And the new gpu isnt promising that.

  • Chris Czyz
    Chris Czyz 6 months ago

    This is gonna be the first 7nm mainstream gaming card released, i wanna see what happens when it's overclocked. Could squeeze out a lot of performance with custom coolers like we did with vega.

  • Mr. SEA
    Mr. SEA 6 months ago +1

    Both companies have disappointed gamers.

  • xSotte
    xSotte 6 months ago

    I'm hoping this will be good at Folding@home computing with competative power usage, but I have my doubts.
    The memory speed doesn't matter for us folders unless it was crippled seriously.I guess AMD will have decent or good graphics drivers for Linux though.
    South Africa; been there, done that :)

  • Ali Humaydan
    Ali Humaydan 6 months ago

    is he haunting zebras ?

  • G Man
    G Man 6 months ago

    Right now Nvidia and AMD(video cards) are a complete waste of time I won't waste my money. For all the plus points the negatives out way them, I'm not impressed.

  • ed k
    ed k 6 months ago

    If the card is any good for mining it will instantly be over 1000 .. so dont get your Hope's up

  • Dustin Taubert
    Dustin Taubert 6 months ago

    I want to see specs of a radeon 7 with the new x570 board and a new 7nm processor

  • Dingish
    Dingish 6 months ago

    Vega 2 might be for the new macs.